EPA claims it has the power to garnish wages without court approval

[Katzndogz]

It looks like the government is combing through laws to find out how they can be reinterpreted and misinterpreted.

This law was passed to deal with corporate polluters. It was never intended to be applied to individuals that the EPA just doesn't like.

 

[jillian]

Passed by Republicans. Signed by a Democrat.

Are we supposed to Enjoy Tyranny if it's bi-partisan?

how is the collection of legitimate debt tyranny?

It may not be legitimate debt and the EPA wants to eliminate due process. You don't see a problem with that?

the remedy is to challenge the underlying charge.

you might want to look into that. there are procedures that exist prior to wage garnishment.

 

[OriginalShroom]

It's amazing how it took the EPA 20 years to realize that they could do this..

It's like Obama who said he couldn't do immigration reform on his own, that the Constitution stopped him.. Until, a couple of years later, he decided that he could.

it may not have been worth it for them until recently. but the law allows it.

yes, the law allows it AFTER DUE PROCESS and hearings determining the guilt and amounts...

it is not "just done'' without due process...as implied imo by the op?

Not it's done with "Due Process".. It is going to be done, if finalized, after the EPA holds their own hearing. Not a trial. No Judges or Courts are involved.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Tyranical Governments bypass The Rule of Law and Due Process.

If you liked FISA Courts you'll love this!

again, how is this tyranny, and how does it bypass due process?

Because the EPA wants to do it after they have held their own hearings, not after a civil or Criminal trail in a Court.

That is why it is a bypass of due process.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

how is the collection of legitimate debt tyranny?

It may not be legitimate debt and the EPA wants to eliminate due process. You don't see a problem with that?

the remedy is to challenge the underlying charge.

you might want to look into that. there are procedures that exist prior to wage garnishment.

I understand that and have no problem with someone trying to obtain something owed as long as its done legally.

 

[ogibillm]

how is the collection of legitimate debt tyranny?

It may not be legitimate debt and the EPA wants to eliminate due process. You don't see a problem with that?

the remedy is to challenge the underlying charge.

you might want to look into that. there are procedures that exist prior to wage garnishment.

tada! there's your due process.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Ogibillm: Is the EPA Executive, Legislative or Judicial?

 

[OriginalShroom]

how is the collection of legitimate debt tyranny?

It may not be legitimate debt and the EPA wants to eliminate due process. You don't see a problem with that?

the remedy is to challenge the underlying charge.

you might want to look into that. there are procedures that exist prior to wage garnishment.

In a way you are right.. What needs to be done is that Congress needs to go back to the drawing board and removed from all these Agencies the "authority" to pass their own rules and regulations that affect the American people when they have the effective power of being laws.

I have said it before and will continue to say it.. Congress is supposed to be passing bills and the President is supposed to sign them into law. B-Rats are not supposed to be able to reach into people's pockets and take money as punishment on their own say-so.

 

[ogibillm]

Ogibillm: Is the EPA Executive, Legislative or Judicial?

it's an excutive agency with regulatory powers

 

[OriginalShroom]

Ogibillm: Is the EPA Executive, Legislative or Judicial?

it's an excutive agency with regulatory powers

They have regulatory powers, not Judicial powers.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Regulatory Powers UNDER EXISTING LAW. Look again at the OP.

EPA wants a "rule change". OK, then go to the Legislature and get them to pass a rule change then get the Prez to sign it.

Cops are in the Executive Branch, the make sure the Laws are "Executed" properly.

You want THEM to be making their own Rule Changes?

 

[ogibillm]

Ogibillm: Is the EPA Executive, Legislative or Judicial?

it's an excutive agency with regulatory powers

They have regulatory powers, not Judicial powers.

ok. so?