Zone1 Eternal Life or Eternal Condemnation?

[Woodznutz]

Here is Jesus speaking. This man who went to hell was in torment and wanted relief.

Luke 16
[19] There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
[20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
[21] And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
[22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
[23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
[24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
[25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
[26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
[27] Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
[28] For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
[29] Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
[30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
[31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Allegory.

 

[07-07-07]

Allegory.

It's a real account. Jesus never used real names in His parables.

 

[Bezukhov]

Yes, an eternal living death in hell.

What does seeing people, or seeing people in the future, suffering and burning in hell for an eternity do for Jesus, that wouldn't be satisfied with eternal cessation of consciousness?

 

[Woodznutz]

What does seeing people, or seeing people in the future, suffering and burning in hell for an eternity do for Jesus, that wouldn't be satisfied with eternal cessation of consciousness?

It's an evil mentality, the kind that opposes the death penalty in favor of life in prison.

 

[07-07-07]

What does seeing people, or seeing people in the future, suffering and burning in hell for an eternity do for Jesus, that wouldn't be satisfied with eternal cessation of consciousness?

The Scriptures teach that damnation is eternal.

Revelation 20
[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

[07-07-07]

It's an evil mentality, the kind that opposes the death penalty in favor of life in prison.

The truth is the truth, whether we are offended or not. I admit that eternal damnation is hard to swallow, but it isn't my place, nor authority, to decide peoples' eternal destination as taught in the Scriptures.

 

[Bezukhov]

The Scriptures teach that damnation is eternal.

Revelation 20
[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

I mean, does seeing and hearing people suffering get Him aroused? Excited? Randy? You know what I mean.

 

[sparky]

bloviating biblical baloney....~S~

 

[Woodznutz]

The Scriptures teach that damnation is eternal.

It is, but the damned aren't alive in torment.

 

[07-07-07]

I mean, does seeing and hearing people suffering get Him aroused? Excited? Randy? You know what I mean.

Does wasting your time questioning reality help you with these weighty matters? The multitudes are at this present moment suffering damnation because of the decisions they made in this life. The clock is ticking for all of us too, it's eternal life in Heaven or eternal damnation in hell.

 

[07-07-07]

It is, but the damned aren't alive in torment.

The Scripture says otherwise.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Scripture says otherwise.

God isn't that cruel or vengeful.

 

[07-07-07]

God isn't that cruel or vengeful.

Those are your feelings speaking. God desires that no one winds up in hell, but people make their own choices.

 

[Bezukhov]

Does wasting your time questioning reality help you with these weighty matters? The multitudes are at this present moment suffering damnation because of the decisions they made in this life. The clock is ticking for all of us too, it's eternal life in Heaven or eternal damnation in hell.

Didn't answer the question. Does Jesus get a thrill out of seeing people suffer?

And another one. Why wasn't God honest with Adam before the Fall?

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Gen 2:16,17

Why didn't God instead warn Adam that he would suffer for an eternity?

 

[fncceo]

The Holy Bible teaches

Which one? Most of the world's faiths have at least one sacred text.

 

[BreezeWood]

Why wasn't God honest with Adam before the Fall?

moses, the people that wrote in their name - live in torment for the lies they cast to falsely use the heavens for their own purposes by claiming a sin where non existed and of a serpent of their own making.

a&e were blessed by the heavens to leave the garden to fend for themselves to determine their own destiny and hopefully return as equals by the success of their endeavor. to become adults worthy of the heavens.

 

[Bezukhov]

Just found out the difference between heaven and Hell. It ain't pretty:

In heaven:

Your cook is Italian.

Your mechanic is German.

Your policeman is English.

Your lover is French.

It is all organized by the Swiss.

In hell:

Your cook is English.

Your mechanic is French.

Your policeman is German.

Your lover is Swiss.

It is all organized by the Italians.

 

[Crepitus]

Eternal Life or Eternal Condemnation?​

Eternal nothing.

You only get this one shot, make it count.

 

[Woodznutz]

Those are your feelings speaking. God desires that no one winds up in hell, but people make their own choices.

There's more to it than that.

 

[Woodznutz]

Why didn't God instead warn Adam that he would suffer for an eternity?

Because he won't.