Europe calls to prepare for US withdrawal from NATO after Trump's return

[Concerned American]

All you do is talk BS. It's your constant. Good bye.

I linked facts. You have no rebuttal. Good riddance, moron.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Concerned America is flailing with misconnected supposed facts.

 

[struth]

The countries are expected to meet the 2% GDP. That's it.

And when they don’t they are in breach. We have no obligation to them

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You ever served, struth?

Believe me, we would rather fight them in Europe than here.

 

[Batcat]

Blah Blah Blah.

Trump is making a deal with NATO nations. Pay your fair share or learn to speak Russian. Trump is a deal maker. He is offering NATO nations a deal they can’t refuse.

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary general, said Trump is helping the alliance adapt to "a more unpredictable world."

www.usatoday.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Mr. Trump is doing nothing of the sort.

 

[Mac-7]

To you... Hah!

But not to you?

That stretches credibility to the breaking point

 

[struth]

You ever served, struth?

Believe me, we would rather fight them in Europe than here.

I don’t disagree but not sure what that has to do with my point and NATO.

We have fought a number of times in Europe, long before NATO.

 

[Concerned American]

You ever served, struth?

Believe me, we would rather fight them in Europe than here.

Under current leadership, it wouldn't happen in either place. Hyper sonic? LMAO, Biden won't even shoot down his boss's hot air balloons.

 

[Concerned American]

Concerned America is flailing with misconnected supposed facts.

Argue with NATO, slow donkey. Keep on trolling with irrelevant crap--that's what you do best.

Funding NATO

NATO is resourced through the direct and indirect contributions of its members. NATO’s common funds are composed of direct contributions to collective budgets and programmes, which equate to only 0.3% of total Allied defence spending (around EUR 3.27 billion for 2023). These funds enable NATO to...

www.nato.int

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I don’t disagree but not sure what that has to do with my point and NATO.

We have fought a number of times in Europe, long before NATO.

And it was a mess, was it not?

 

[struth]

And it was a mess, was it not?

Yes, it’s a mess there now too. Not sure your point. War is messy. We all agree

Again not sure your point

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

struth, you don't fib well.

 

[struth]

struth, you don't fib well.

What did I lie about?

 

[Concerned American]

struth, you don't fib well.

Well you got the first four words right anyway. Keep trying, one day you'll tell the truth.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[AZrailwhale]

Maybe you would rather be a sitting duck.

NATO doesn't protect the USA, the USA protects the other NATO nations. The majority of funding, equipment and troops that NATO fields has always come from the USA. During the Cold War, the Germans ran a close second, but they expected the war to be fought on their territory if the Warsaw Pact came west through the Fulda Gap.

 

[eagle1462010]

NATO got a wake up call and finally slowly, honoring their word to pitch in and DO THEIR FAIR SHARE.

And because Trump called them out on it and the bear is scaring them they are finally seeing reality.

Now some have been Honoring their word. POLAND A SHINING EXAMPLE. They have exceeded it for a long time. If the rest would do the same they would be no longer scared of the bear..

 

[AZrailwhale]

I love it. My daughter tried something similar when she was in Jr. High, she threatened to call Children's Protective Services when we disciplined her by grounding her. I handed her the phone and said, "pack your bags when you finish the call, you won't be coming home." Needless to say, she hung up the phone. Apparently, some of her friends pulled that on their parents and got away with it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You ever served, struth?

Believe me, we would rather fight them in Europe than here.

Fighting in Europe is an expensive proposition for the USA. You are probably too young to remember Reforger exercises every year. The US flew a large chunk of the army to Germany to marry up with pre-positioned division equipment sets that were bought and maintained by the American taxpayer every year. Those equipment sets don't exist anymore everything would have to travel by ships which would have to fight their way across the Atlantic to German or French ports. Read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising for a taste of what that would be like.