So What Does the Rest of the World think About a Second Trump Presidency?

[there4eyeM]

All the critical comments made here about the two duopoly candidates are true.

 

[d0gbreath]

The original post is an example of why we ate Freedom Fries instead of French Fries for three years.

Why did we switch back during year four?

 

[Meathead]

There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

What Europe Fears

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

www.theatlantic.com

They are scared they'd have to pony up for their own defense but freely admit that Brandon is lost.

 

[Soupnazi630]

We do elect a President based on his foreign policy. That's one of his primary jobs, after all.

Therefore, if the rest of the world thinks our President is a total moron, like they do Trump, that will affect his success in foreign policy.

Trump wants Putin to invade NATO, and our allies are rightly and seriously concerned. And you should be, too.

He does not want putin to invade NATO and putin does not want to either.

Foreign policy is a secoondary consideration. It is also a consideration for us not the rest of the world, In other words their opinion does not set our policy. Our policies should be tailored for what is best for the US as a nation and if the rest of the world hates it too bad.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No, they are terrified of a second Trump presidency because he has given Putin permission to invade NATO.

Trump will cause WWIII.

That is simply a lie

He never gave or expressed any such thing

 

[IM2]

The rest of the world does business with us and we depend on them for intelligence. If they can't trust our leadership, we are less protected.

 

[IM2]

That is simply a lie

He never gave or expressed any such thing

Putin does indeed want NATO dismantled.

 

[g5000]

Trump did tell NATO to meet their spending obligations.
Are they, finally?
Did Trump or Obama give more military aid to Ukraine?

One of the funniest posts on this forum was when I pointed out that every NATO country bordering Russia more than meets their funding obligations, some even more than the US does.

Then came this astounding reply:

~~~~~~
Bull Crap!
You're claim is is a lie. Denmark, Bulgaria, Turkey, Slovenia each border Russia and have not met the 2% commitment to NATO.

 

[g5000]

We do elect a President based on his foreign policy. That's one of his primary jobs, after all.

Remember when Obama attacked our allies and supported our enemies?
That was awesome!!!

B-b-b-b-b-but ObamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhHH!

 

[g5000]

He does not want putin to invade NATO and putin does not want to either.

You are very naive if you actually believe that.

 

[g5000]

That is simply a lie

He never gave or expressed any such thing

Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough​

​

 

[IM2]

One of the funniest posts on this forum was when I pointed out that every NATO country bordering Russia more than meets their funding obligations, some even more than the US does.

Then came this astounding reply:

Ignorance is a MAGA trait.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

B-b-b-b-b-but ObamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhHH!

Glad you spotted your error.

 

[Orangecat]

 

[Soupnazi630]

Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough​

​

You just owned yourself

Good job

 

[Soupnazi630]

You are very naive if you actually believe that.

Wrong I am not a brainwashed paranoid like you

 

[Soupnazi630]

Putin does indeed want NATO dismantled.

Not the same thing fool

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

What Europe Fears

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

www.theatlantic.com

Nuland??

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

What Europe Fears

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

www.theatlantic.com

Western European political class is not the rest of the world retards

 

[luiza]

The joy of standing in the great man's shadow is that you know that every day will be entertaining and fun .

What more can you ever sensibly want ?

See Emperor Piss Pot's reign if you choose to be silly and disagree .

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland,

And there is exactly the reason that you support The Donald .
Because he detests clinical madness and Evil .