So What Does the Rest of the World think About a Second Trump Presidency?

[Crepitus]

You misread me... I'm sick and tired of all of our money going abroad... no matter what the reason... Trump tightened it up Biden loosened the tap.... and we have people living in tents on the street....

Foreign aid?

What did tRump stop?

 

[konradv]

There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

What Europe Fears

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

www.theatlantic.com

Tell them not to believe the polls. It’s a long time until November.

 

[john doe 101]

Most regular foreign people like Trump. The insane leftist bureaucrats hate him.

Go back to Russia.

 

[Rambunctious]

Foreign aid?

What did tRump stop?

He never cut it he simply suggested a cut in the 2020 budget and the dems went nuts... but we need to focus on our nation at some point... don't you think?...
Most of our foreign aid spending is not well thought out and a huge percentage of it is stolen or lost....

 

[wamose]

Our country and the world needs the kind of leadership that only Trump can provide. Biden is a bumbling dipshit that manages to fuck up everything he touches. Back to MAGA.

 

[blackhawk]

What the rest of the world thinks about this is irrelevant they have no say in who we elect President just as we have no say in who they elect in their country.

 

[Crepitus]

He never cut it he simply suggested a cut in the 2020 budget

So you lied?

 

[CowboyTed]

Then there is what he did to global inflation. That idiot cut the world supply of oil (by about 3 million barrels a day).

When? What should he have done instead?

How about nothing? Let the market decide...

He was shilling for Big Oil who went on to have record profits for the next couple of years at the inflated oil prices..

The US & EU regular guys paid that bill...

Personally I don't think Trump had malice in what he did, he just is very short sighted and didn't consider the consquences of his actions... No one around him told him of this outcome either. No other President Rep or Dem would have done this because they knew it would incrase the price of Oil and thus everything else.

What does piss me off is the lack of ownership... Trump you did this and you should own it... Instead he blames anyone and everyone else and even campaigns on blaming his mistake on his opponent...

 

[CowboyTed]

The rest of the world didn't know how good they had it under Trump until they got a 4 year dose of Asparagus Joe Biden, now they long for Trump's return.

Trump on the numbers was quite a bad President...

He lost jobs.
Increased borrowing
Created the conditions for increased inflation
Lost a trade war to China
Pulled out of TPP with no alternative plan
Gave the keys of Afganistan to Taliban
Created mistrust with Allies
Oversaw a Million Americans die while he lied about its impact.
Broke the law before and after being President
......

Just a bad President... These are all facts...

You will answer with 'But Biden....'. You will then put our a bunch of RW propaganda points with no evidence... That's the problem, you can decipher facts from propaganda.
Trump was convicted. that means there was a Jury and evidence... Pundit on NewsMax is just pulling shit out of his ass because if he doesn't he doesn't get booked agin. Lying to you is a business in itself.

 

[CowboyTed]

He never cut it he simply suggested a cut in the 2020 budget and the dems went nuts... but we need to focus on our nation at some point... don't you think?...
Most of our foreign aid spending is not well thought out and a huge percentage of it is stolen or lost....

Well most goes to Isreal or Countries US has recently invaded...

Another chunk is spent so US can gain regional influence in the region usually to secure a resource (e.g. Mining, Drilling...). This is one of US secrets of making deals... China is doing it as well and when Trump was in power and stopped it, China got almost exclusive access to rare metals in Africa... Now China basically controls the supply of rare metals used in a lot of our tech like computers, phones....

The small bit that is left is highly scrutinised usually spent with the help of Global NGOs like (UNICEF, OXFAM, Docs without Borders....)...

GOP have always used this topic as a bat to beat Democrats when they know full well that US Governemtn has using this to grease wheels in commerce around the world in favour of US... Now China is very much doing it as well...

Why are you pro China?

 

[Aldo Raine]

The rest of the world didn't know how good they had it under Trump until they got a 4 year dose of Asparagus Joe Biden, now they long for Trump's return.

How the fuck did you keep from busting out in laughter as you typed this BS?
MAGA

 

[konradv]

Our country and the world needs the kind of leadership that only Trump can provide. Biden is a bumbling dipshit that manages to fuck up everything he touches. Back to MAGA.

Trump destroys everything he touches. We can’t let him do it to America.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How about nothing? Let the market decide...

He was shilling for Big Oil who went on to have record profits for the next couple of years at the inflated oil prices..

The US & EU regular guys paid that bill...

Personally I don't think Trump had malice in what he did, he just is very short sighted and didn't consider the consquences of his actions... No one around him told him of this outcome either. No other President Rep or Dem would have done this because they knew it would incrase the price of Oil and thus everything else.

What does piss me off is the lack of ownership... Trump you did this and you should own it... Instead he blames anyone and everyone else and even campaigns on blaming his mistake on his opponent...

How about nothing? Let the market decide...

Let the market decide? But you said "world oil".
What could Trump do to cut the "world oil" supply?

He was shilling for Big Oil who went on to have record profits for the next couple of years at the inflated oil prices..

The market decided to have record oil profits?
Or did Trump still magically control things after 2020?

Personally I don't think Trump had malice in what he did, he just is very short sighted and didn't consider the consquences of his actions...

You never gave any details. What did he do? Be specific.

 

[g5000]

They think, good, Biden and Harris are dangerous morons.

No, they are terrified of a second Trump presidency because he has given Putin permission to invade NATO.

Trump will cause WWIII.

 

[Soupnazi630]

There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

What Europe Fears

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

www.theatlantic.com

The rest of the world is irrelevant.

We do not elect any president based on the opinions of other nations

 

[Kilroy2]

There are several foreign members in this forum, sadly some of them are trump supporters. But in reality there is an entire world out there and we live with everybody else. And everybody else doesn't seem to think Trump is the answer.

WHAT EUROPE FEARS​

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

In early april, a crowd of diplomats and dignitaries gathered in the Flemish countryside to toast the most powerful military alliance in the history of the world, and convince themselves it wasn’t about to collapse.

They arrived in a convoy of town cars that snaked down a private driveway and deposited them outside Truman Hall, a white-brick house set on 27 acres of gardens and hazelnut groves. Originally built by a Belgian chocolatier, the estate was sold to the American government at a discount—a thank-you gift for liberating Europe—and became the residence of the U.S. ambassador to NATO. Tonight, Julianne Smith, the inexhaustibly cheerful diplomat who currently holds the job, was stationed at the front door, greeting each guest.

At Truman Hall, every effort was made to keep the mood festive despite a storm looming outside. Beneath a backyard tent, Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke, followed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.

Stoltenberg, lean and unrumpled, decided to do something diplomatically unorthodox: acknowledge reality. Anxiety about America’s commitment to the alliance had been omnipresent and unspoken; now Stoltenberg was directly addressing the dangers of a potential U.S. withdrawal from the world.

“The United States left Europe after the First World War,” he said, adding, with a measure of Scandinavian understatement, “That was not a big success.”

The wind was picking up outside, pounding the flaps of the tent and making it difficult to hear. Stoltenberg raised his voice. “Ever since the alliance was established,” he said, “it has been a great success, preserving peace, preventing war, and enabling economic prosperity—”

A strong gust hit the tent, rattling the light trusses above. Guests glanced around nervously.

The undercurrent of dread at Truman Hall was not unique. I encountered it in nearly every conversation I had while traveling through Europe this spring. In capitals across the continent—from Brussels to Berlin, Warsaw to Tallinn—leaders and diplomats expressed a sense of alarm bordering on panic at the prospect of Donald Trump’s reelection.

“The anxiety is massive,” Victoria Nuland, who served until recently as undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department, told me. Like other diplomats in the Biden administration, she has spent the three-plus years since Trump unwillingly left office working to restabilize America’s relationship with its allies.

“Foreign counterparts would say it to me straight up,” Nuland recalled. “‘The first Trump election—maybe people didn’t understand who he was, or it was an accident. A second election of Trump? We’ll never trust you again.’”

What Europe Fears

American allies see a second Trump term as all but inevitable. “The anxiety is massive.”

www.theatlantic.com

True allies will carry on and speak their mind.

Middle of the road allies don't care.

USA detractors will send donations to the Trump campaign.

 

[g5000]

The rest of the world is irrelevant.

We do not elect any president based on the opinions of other nations

We do elect a President based on his foreign policy. That's one of his primary jobs, after all.

Therefore, if the rest of the world thinks our President is a total moron, like they do Trump, that will affect his success in foreign policy.

Trump wants Putin to invade NATO, and our allies are rightly and seriously concerned. And you should be, too.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, they are terrified of a second Trump presidency because he has given Putin permission to invade NATO.

Trump will cause WWIII.

Trump did tell NATO to meet their spending obligations.
Are they, finally?
Did Trump or Obama give more military aid to Ukraine?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We do elect a President based on his foreign policy. That's one of his primary jobs, after all.

Therefore, if the rest of the world thinks our President is a total moron, like they do Trump, that will affect his success in foreign policy.

Trump wants Putin to invade NATO, and our allies are rightly and seriously concerned. And you should be, too.

We do elect a President based on his foreign policy. That's one of his primary jobs, after all.

Remember when Obama attacked our allies and supported our enemies?
That was awesome!!!

 

[Orangecat]

So What Does the Rest of the World think About a Second Trump Presidency?​

Why should US citizens care?