Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

[EverCurious]

Interesting, so yet again we find a pro-Ukrainian influence at the bottom of the pile. A similar pro-Ukraine group was behind the whole "Russian collusion" claim to begin with if you recall, through informing Hillary that the DNC was hacked by Russian's.

I rather feel that America is merely a fly in the web of foreign power espionage, but it's far too early to put it all together yet.

 

[CowboyTed]

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

 

[Redfish]

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

Just cant stand it can you? The American people chose Trump over your crooked Hillary. Will you ever get over it? probably not because your brain is fried by the crap that the lying media has been pumping into it for years.

Trump won, Hillary lost. Nothing you do or say will ever change that. Trump will be president for 4 or 8 years.

Grow the fuck up and deal with reality.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They were passing on classified information to the Soviets, numskull. They were in esensative positions that required a security clearance. You have to report any foriegnnationals you come in contact with if you have a security clearance.

the only reason this thing is even an issue is because this country is infested with total fucking idiots like you.

Actually they were orriginally hired by republicans(The washington Free Beacon) they did not like what was returning and quit paying. Then the Dems continued funding becuase it was juicy. Noit illegal by either side by the way. So who is the idiot. Get bent Bripat you are not interested in truth just justification on your own views.

We've already heard your talking point 1000 times, douche bag.

<YAWN!>

Douche bag is all you got. Or I have never gotten pussy. I am a male slut I have likely had your pussy. Go back to moscow you fucken russian troll You have no arguments just name calling. The kid in the photo has a bigger brain than you!

That argument sure was convincing.

Why don't you tell us how big your dick is the next time you want us to believe something you post?

Why are you asking him about his dick?
Why don’t you just use airport bathrooms like republicans do..

The "wide stancers".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Hold Your Horses Folks:

Breaking News Bombshell Just Dropped!

This was totally illegal!

Report: FBI Paid For Fusion GPS Steele Dossier Along With Hillary – FBI Paid Steele's Travel Expenses

There is nothing breaking about this. It's been known for quite some time. You dopes are always a day late and a dollar short.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Hold Your Horses Folks:

Breaking Bombshell Update Just Dropped!

This was totally illegal!

Report: FBI Paid For Fusion GPS Steele Dossier Along With Hillary – FBI Paid Steele's Travel Expenses

It's becoming obvious that Comey and the FBI are in this neck deep. Mueller has to go. He needs to be investigated along with Comey. Then HIllary needs to be indicted.

It's been glaringly obvious for some time that you are retarded.

Steele gave his Intel to the FBI in June of 16.
After verifying elements of it, they paid him to investigate further. There is nothing nefarious about that.

 

[Reasonable]

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

I said nothing of the kind. I said the Reagan crimes were found out at the end of his 8 years. Then compared T’s indictments after only 9 months in office.
They should have a kiddies section he u can participate in. You’d kill there..

 

[Reasonable]

The Donald won every primary debate and royally kicked Crooked Hillary's ass in all their debates. One key thing is The Donald spoke from the gut as the former chairman of GE would say, and Crooked Hillary and the other stooges memorized talking points.

CLINTON won all 3 debates. You don't get debate points by being the biggest asshole and hurling the most attacks.

She won all 3 debates? LOL.

She can add those debate points right to popular votes. That's worth something, right?

According to all the major news outlets and on the issues she won all 3 debates hands down.

 

[Reasonable]

making America GREAT AGAIN?

• The FBI's special counsel's team is digging into the limits of President Donald Trump's pardon powers.
• Because there is little precedent for governing presidential pardon powers, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, is likely to research state-level cases with elements that could be applied to the Russia investigation.
• Experts say Mueller is taking unprecedented steps to ward off efforts by the White House to guard itself against the investigation.

'These are things we've never seen before': The Russia investigation is moving into uncharted territory

ROFL! Yeah, "these are things we've never seen before." We've never seen so much hysteria over absolutely nothing before.

Thinks crimes against America are “nothing.”

 

[Reasonable]

See how the far left is wishing that Trump will be removed and Hillary will be instantly made president?

The far left loves to use the impeach word, yet does not understand how that happens!

nobody believes that to be possible, cuckoo kosh...


alas, Democrats do indeed understand precisely how impeachment happens, but Republicans have thus far put PARTY OVER COUNTRY.

seems like YOU are the one who doesn't understand how our mechanisms of government work.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. What impeachable offence has Trump committed? no talking points, be specific or STFU

educate yourself, and feel FREE to stop acting like a dumbo bully. if you can!



The Donald Trump Impeachment Clock Is Ticking

President Trump's Impeachable Offense

No, it's not too early to discuss grounds for impeaching Trump



>>


already posted in THIS THREAD (read the thread or STFU, bully):


Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

The problem with your theory is that there is absolultely no reason to believe Trump committed any kind of crime. None.

Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

OH, so we are back to tax returns. Do you understand that people in Trump's income bracket get audited every year? Are you saying that the IRS is corrupt? stupid? incompetent? on Trump's team?

Do you libs ever think about what you post?

i'm so sure your liar-in-chief could never ever be proven to have lied on his tax forms.

When lefties are "so sure" of something, they're usually clueless or just lying.

We said there would be indictments. Your kind said there wouldn’t be.
So who was right?

 

[Peach]

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

Just cant stand it can you? The American people chose Trump over your crooked Hillary. Will you ever get over it? probably not because your brain is fried by the crap that the lying media has been pumping into it for years.

Trump won, Hillary lost. Nothing you do or say will ever change that. Trump will be president for 4 or 8 years.

Grow the fuck up and deal with reality.

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

He already is so doing. Read his stuff today? He appears to be UNWELL.

 

[Kosh]

See how the far left is wishing that Trump will be removed and Hillary will be instantly made president?

The far left loves to use the impeach word, yet does not understand how that happens!

nobody believes that to be possible, cuckoo kosh...


alas, Democrats do indeed understand precisely how impeachment happens, but Republicans have thus far put PARTY OVER COUNTRY.

seems like YOU are the one who doesn't understand how our mechanisms of government work.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. What impeachable offence has Trump committed? no talking points, be specific or STFU

No one doubt that, just you far left drones were foaming at the mouth and the charges filed are when they colluded with democrats..



educate yourself, and feel FREE to stop acting like a dumbo bully. if you can!



The Donald Trump Impeachment Clock Is Ticking

President Trump's Impeachable Offense

No, it's not too early to discuss grounds for impeaching Trump



>>


already posted in THIS THREAD (read the thread or STFU, bully):


Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

OH, so we are back to tax returns. Do you understand that people in Trump's income bracket get audited every year? Are you saying that the IRS is corrupt? stupid? incompetent? on Trump's team?

Do you libs ever think about what you post?

i'm so sure your liar-in-chief could never ever be proven to have lied on his tax forms.

When lefties are "so sure" of something, they're usually clueless or just lying.

We said there would be indictments. Your kind said there wouldn’t be.
So who was right?

 

[DrLove]

You're a well trained poodle. You repeat the party line perfectly. I'm sure they will give you a treat.

For YOU? NO treat - Sorry!

Love, -The Treat Nazi

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"conspiracy against the United States"


READ: Paul Manafort And Rick Gates Indicted On 12 Counts

Ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort charged with 'conspiracy against the United States'

What the hell is "conspiricay against the United States?"

Exacty what it says.


The first allegation against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is "conspiracy against the United States".

But what does it mean?

The detail is spelled out in the US Code of Laws - Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.

What does the law say?
Firstly, you cannot be charged with conspiracy alone. The law is used against "two or more people" - in this case, Mr Manafort and Mr Gates.

Secondly, the law is broad. It can be used against a group who "commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose".

In a 1924 case, Hammerschmidt v. United States, Chief Justice William Taft (who was US President from from 1909 to 1913) defined "defraud".

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money," he said.

"But it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest."


The last paragraph is telling. It could certainly pertain to collusion with a foreign govt in an effort to influence an election.It looks like a count they could all be charged with.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Crimes against the United States are the charges.. Bripat brings up dead bodies.
Lmao

What "crimes against the United States?"

The ones Gates and Manafort are charged with.

Why do you charge someone with two crimes for the same thing? And when did failing to fill out forms become a "crime against the United States?"

They're called counts, dope.
If I murder two people, I shouldn't be charged with two murders?

 

[bripat9643]

Our electoral system is in no danger from Trump.

I'd say using the IRS to persecute opposition groups is much more of a threat than anything the Russians may have done. Conducting espionage on the opposition party durng a campaign is also a much greater threat.

Luckily none of those things are happening. Well, I know in Conspiracy Theory Loony Land they are happening. Luckily most of us don't reside there.

It already happened, douche bag. It's thoroughly documented.

 

[jon_berzerk]

oh oh that doesnt sound so good

The lobbying firms the Podesta Group and Mercury Public Affairs are the unnamed companies in the grand jury indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, according to three sources with knowledge of the investigation.

The indictment, unsealed Monday, refers to “Company A” and “Company B” as the firms Manafort and Gates solicited in 2012 to lobby on behalf of the Ukranian government. Company A is Mercury Public Affairs and Company B is the Podesta Group, the sources said.

The revelation of the companies’ identities points to more details about the players involved in the high-stakes venture run by Manafort and Gates to push the interest of a pro-Russia Ukranian political party inside the United States. It also provides a glimpse into the material special prosecutor Robert Mueller has corroborated on both companies and the potential legal repercussions both groups could face.

Sources: Podesta Group, Mercury are companies 'A' and 'B' in indictment

 

[bripat9643]

"conspiracy against the United States"


READ: Paul Manafort And Rick Gates Indicted On 12 Counts

Ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort charged with 'conspiracy against the United States'

What the hell is "conspiricay against the United States?"

Exacty what it says.


The first allegation against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is "conspiracy against the United States".

But what does it mean?

The detail is spelled out in the US Code of Laws - Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.

What does the law say?
Firstly, you cannot be charged with conspiracy alone. The law is used against "two or more people" - in this case, Mr Manafort and Mr Gates.

Secondly, the law is broad. It can be used against a group who "commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose".

In a 1924 case, Hammerschmidt v. United States, Chief Justice William Taft (who was US President from from 1909 to 1913) defined "defraud".

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money," he said.

"But it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest."


The last paragraph is telling. It could certainly pertain to collusion with a foreign govt in an effort to influence an election.It looks like a count they could all be charged with.

So, not paying your taxes, and getting your accountant to help, is a "conspiracy against the United States?".

In other words, it's a bullshit chart the feds use for piling on.

It's meaningless - nothing for snowflakes to soil their panties over.

 

[Ame®icano]

The Donald won every primary debate and royally kicked Crooked Hillary's ass in all their debates. One key thing is The Donald spoke from the gut as the former chairman of GE would say, and Crooked Hillary and the other stooges memorized talking points.

CLINTON won all 3 debates. You don't get debate points by being the biggest asshole and hurling the most attacks.

She won all 3 debates? LOL.

She can add those debate points right to popular votes. That's worth something, right?

According to all the major news outlets and on the issues she won all 3 debates hands down.

According to all major news outlets, she should've won by large margin.

One thing is them (major news outlets) being wrong all the time. At least they're consistent.

Still taking their words for granted and trusting them (major news outlets) is bordering with insanity.

 

[bripat9643]

Crimes against the United States are the charges.. Bripat brings up dead bodies.
Lmao

What "crimes against the United States?"

The ones Gates and Manafort are charged with.

Why do you charge someone with two crimes for the same thing? And when did failing to fill out forms become a "crime against the United States?"

They're called counts, dope.
If I murder two people, I shouldn't be charged with two murders?

There's only one murder, moron. If you murder one person, should you be charged with murder, and making the victim's wife a widow?