Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

[jon_berzerk]

"conspiracy against the United States"


READ: Paul Manafort And Rick Gates Indicted On 12 Counts

Ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort charged with 'conspiracy against the United States'

What the hell is "conspiricay against the United States?"

Exacty what it says.


The first allegation against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is "conspiracy against the United States".

But what does it mean?

The detail is spelled out in the US Code of Laws - Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.

What does the law say?
Firstly, you cannot be charged with conspiracy alone. The law is used against "two or more people" - in this case, Mr Manafort and Mr Gates.

Secondly, the law is broad. It can be used against a group who "commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose".

In a 1924 case, Hammerschmidt v. United States, Chief Justice William Taft (who was US President from from 1909 to 1913) defined "defraud".

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money," he said.

"But it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest."


The last paragraph is telling. It could certainly pertain to collusion with a foreign govt in an effort to influence an election.It looks like a count they could all be charged with.

So, not paying your taxes, and getting your accountant to help, is a "conspiracy against the United States?".

In other words, it's a bullshit chart the feds use for piling on.

It's meaningless - nothing for snowflakes to soil their panties over.

be ready for some serious leftarded butt hurt

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Now we know why the Hillary distractions got so frantic all this week.

Frantic how? The MSM barely mentioned it.

Uranium One has been all over Trump's propaganda networks (fox / breitbart / etc).

The Trump dossier hasn't. I believe out of all the networks, they gave it 20 seconds combined reporting.

Because it's nonsense.

sorry dude, but the corruption around the uranium deal is real. the Clintons sold out the country for 140 million dollars. At least now we know their price.

I'm sorry. Which Clinton had approval authority over that deal?

 

[bripat9643]

Hold Your Horses Folks:

Breaking Bombshell Update Just Dropped!

This was totally illegal!

Report: FBI Paid For Fusion GPS Steele Dossier Along With Hillary – FBI Paid Steele's Travel Expenses

It's becoming obvious that Comey and the FBI are in this neck deep. Mueller has to go. He needs to be investigated along with Comey. Then HIllary needs to be indicted.

It's been glaringly obvious for some time that you are retarded.

Steele gave his Intel to the FBI in June of 16.
After verifying elements of it, they paid him to investigate further. There is nothing nefarious about that.

It's not "intel," douche bag. It's a bag full of smears. Nothing has been verified, and large parts of it have been shown to be horseshit. The FBI needs to be investigated for participating in this scam. They are guilty of conspiricy and probably a dozen other crimes.

 

[Ame®icano]

See how the far left is wishing that Trump will be removed and Hillary will be instantly made president?

The far left loves to use the impeach word, yet does not understand how that happens!

nobody believes that to be possible, cuckoo kosh...


alas, Democrats do indeed understand precisely how impeachment happens, but Republicans have thus far put PARTY OVER COUNTRY.

seems like YOU are the one who doesn't understand how our mechanisms of government work.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. What impeachable offence has Trump committed? no talking points, be specific or STFU

educate yourself, and feel FREE to stop acting like a dumbo bully. if you can!



The Donald Trump Impeachment Clock Is Ticking

President Trump's Impeachable Offense

No, it's not too early to discuss grounds for impeaching Trump



>>


already posted in THIS THREAD (read the thread or STFU, bully):


Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

OH, so we are back to tax returns. Do you understand that people in Trump's income bracket get audited every year? Are you saying that the IRS is corrupt? stupid? incompetent? on Trump's team?

Do you libs ever think about what you post?

i'm so sure your liar-in-chief could never ever be proven to have lied on his tax forms.

When lefties are "so sure" of something, they're usually clueless or just lying.

We said there would be indictments. Your kind said there wouldn’t be.
So who was right?

Nope, you said there will be Trump's indictments. My kind said they got nothing on him.

You see, you gotta stop feeling, and start reasoning. Calling yourself "reasonable" seems to be just wishful thinking.

 

[Reasonable]

"conspiracy against the United States"


READ: Paul Manafort And Rick Gates Indicted On 12 Counts

Ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort charged with 'conspiracy against the United States'

What the hell is "conspiricay against the United States?"

Exacty what it says.


The first allegation against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is "conspiracy against the United States".

But what does it mean?

The detail is spelled out in the US Code of Laws - Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.

What does the law say?
Firstly, you cannot be charged with conspiracy alone. The law is used against "two or more people" - in this case, Mr Manafort and Mr Gates.

Secondly, the law is broad. It can be used against a group who "commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose".

In a 1924 case, Hammerschmidt v. United States, Chief Justice William Taft (who was US President from from 1909 to 1913) defined "defraud".

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money," he said.

"But it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest."


The last paragraph is telling. It could certainly pertain to collusion with a foreign govt in an effort to influence an election.It looks like a count they could all be charged with.

So, not paying your taxes, and getting your accountant to help, is a "conspiracy against the United States?".

In other words, it's a bullshit chart the feds use for piling on.

It's meaningless - nothing for snowflakes to soil their panties over.

High school dropout thinks he knows more than federal prosecutors.
Smh

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Breaking News Update!

Here's what's going down. Note the date of the 4Chan posting.

Trumps Ultimate Plan

 

[bripat9643]

making America GREAT AGAIN?

• The FBI's special counsel's team is digging into the limits of President Donald Trump's pardon powers.
• Because there is little precedent for governing presidential pardon powers, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, is likely to research state-level cases with elements that could be applied to the Russia investigation.
• Experts say Mueller is taking unprecedented steps to ward off efforts by the White House to guard itself against the investigation.

'These are things we've never seen before': The Russia investigation is moving into uncharted territory

ROFL! Yeah, "these are things we've never seen before." We've never seen so much hysteria over absolutely nothing before.

Thinks crimes against America are “nothing.”

Cheating on your taxes isn't a "crime against American," you fucking douche bag. Pretty soon you assholes will be claiming that jay walking is treason. That's how it worked in the former Soviet Union. Showing up to work late was a crime that could get you sent to the Gulag.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"conspiracy against the United States"


READ: Paul Manafort And Rick Gates Indicted On 12 Counts

Ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort charged with 'conspiracy against the United States'

What the hell is "conspiricay against the United States?"

Exacty what it says.


The first allegation against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is "conspiracy against the United States".

But what does it mean?

The detail is spelled out in the US Code of Laws - Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.

What does the law say?
Firstly, you cannot be charged with conspiracy alone. The law is used against "two or more people" - in this case, Mr Manafort and Mr Gates.

Secondly, the law is broad. It can be used against a group who "commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose".

In a 1924 case, Hammerschmidt v. United States, Chief Justice William Taft (who was US President from from 1909 to 1913) defined "defraud".

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money," he said.

"But it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest."


The last paragraph is telling. It could certainly pertain to collusion with a foreign govt in an effort to influence an election.It looks like a count they could all be charged with.

So, not paying your taxes, and getting your accountant to help, is a "conspiracy against the United States?".

In other words, it's a bullshit chart the feds use for piling on.

It's meaningless - nothing for snowflakes to soil their panties over.

Yeah, obviously it's meaningless. Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[Reasonable]

educate yourself, and feel FREE to stop acting like a dumbo bully. if you can!



The Donald Trump Impeachment Clock Is Ticking

President Trump's Impeachable Offense

No, it's not too early to discuss grounds for impeaching Trump



>>


already posted in THIS THREAD (read the thread or STFU, bully):


Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation





Obtaining tax returns can lead to evidence of tax offenses. If an individual receives money that is not reported in the tax return or is misrepresented, that can be charged as a separate federal crime. Hiding financial transactions also can be used as evidence that the subject knew that the underlying source of the money was illegal.

Here's why Mueller might already have Trump’s tax returns

+

A Complete Timeline of the Obstruction of Justice Case Against Donald Trump

OH, so we are back to tax returns. Do you understand that people in Trump's income bracket get audited every year? Are you saying that the IRS is corrupt? stupid? incompetent? on Trump's team?

Do you libs ever think about what you post?

i'm so sure your liar-in-chief could never ever be proven to have lied on his tax forms.

When lefties are "so sure" of something, they're usually clueless or just lying.

We said there would be indictments. Your kind said there wouldn’t be.
So who was right?

Nope, you said there will be Trump's indictments. My kind said they got nothing on him.

You see, you gotta stop feeling, and start reasoning. Calling yourself "reasonable" seems to be just wishful thinking.

Wrong I got my info from a member of the House intelligence Committee who said “there will be people going to prison.”
You called it a fake scandal.
And it remains if any or how many indictments Trump himself will get.
You think he’s innocent of not breaking any laws once Mueller goes thru his tax returns? Ha ha
Also expect obstruction of justice charges against the dope since he admitted it on live TV.

 

[Reasonable]

making America GREAT AGAIN?

• The FBI's special counsel's team is digging into the limits of President Donald Trump's pardon powers.
• Because there is little precedent for governing presidential pardon powers, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, is likely to research state-level cases with elements that could be applied to the Russia investigation.
• Experts say Mueller is taking unprecedented steps to ward off efforts by the White House to guard itself against the investigation.

'These are things we've never seen before': The Russia investigation is moving into uncharted territory

ROFL! Yeah, "these are things we've never seen before." We've never seen so much hysteria over absolutely nothing before.

Thinks crimes against America are “nothing.”

Cheating on your taxes isn't a "crime against American," you fucking douche bag. Pretty soon you assholes will be claiming that jay walking is treason. That's how it worked in the former Soviet Union. Showing up to work late was a crime that could get you sent to the Gulag.

How about money laundering via Russia? Is that legal too?
Plus I never said ANYTHING about cheating on his taxes..
You’re an angry little boy but I can understand it today because you see your whole house of cards falling on your ass.

 

[bripat9643]

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

Just cant stand it can you? The American people chose Trump over your crooked Hillary. Will you ever get over it? probably not because your brain is fried by the crap that the lying media has been pumping into it for years.

Trump won, Hillary lost. Nothing you do or say will ever change that. Trump will be president for 4 or 8 years.

Grow the fuck up and deal with reality.

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

He already is so doing. Read his stuff today? He appears to be UNWELL.

You appear to be a moron.

 

[Reasonable]

Steve Harvey came out today saying he regrets meeting with Trump right before the election. He should have listened to his wife.
Trump used him b/c he wanted to be seen with a black person.

 

[Reasonable]

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

Just cant stand it can you? The American people chose Trump over your crooked Hillary. Will you ever get over it? probably not because your brain is fried by the crap that the lying media has been pumping into it for years.

Trump won, Hillary lost. Nothing you do or say will ever change that. Trump will be president for 4 or 8 years.

Grow the fuck up and deal with reality.

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

He already is so doing. Read his stuff today? He appears to be UNWELL.

You appear to be a moron.

Pot calling the kettle black.

 

[bripat9643]

making America GREAT AGAIN?

• The FBI's special counsel's team is digging into the limits of President Donald Trump's pardon powers.
• Because there is little precedent for governing presidential pardon powers, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, is likely to research state-level cases with elements that could be applied to the Russia investigation.
• Experts say Mueller is taking unprecedented steps to ward off efforts by the White House to guard itself against the investigation.

'These are things we've never seen before': The Russia investigation is moving into uncharted territory

ROFL! Yeah, "these are things we've never seen before." We've never seen so much hysteria over absolutely nothing before.

Thinks crimes against America are “nothing.”

Cheating on your taxes isn't a "crime against American," you fucking douche bag. Pretty soon you assholes will be claiming that jay walking is treason. That's how it worked in the former Soviet Union. Showing up to work late was a crime that could get you sent to the Gulag.

How about money laundering via Russia? Is that legal too?
Plus I never said ANYTHING about cheating on his taxes..
You’re an angry little boy but I can understand it today because you see your whole house of cards falling on your ass.

There isn't a shred of evidence that anyone in the Trump administration has engaged in money laundering of any sort. That's just one of the paranoid rants that some snowflake imagined in a drug induced stupor.


Tax evasion is basically the charge that Mueller has lodged against Manafort.

 

[Reasonable]

This just in. White House lawyers warned trump not to criticize Mueller but Bannon and others told him to get more aggressive.

Also “Trump is seething that probe reaches his former aides.”

You haven’t seen anything yet pussy.

 

[bripat9643]

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

Just cant stand it can you? The American people chose Trump over your crooked Hillary. Will you ever get over it? probably not because your brain is fried by the crap that the lying media has been pumping into it for years.

Trump won, Hillary lost. Nothing you do or say will ever change that. Trump will be president for 4 or 8 years.

Grow the fuck up and deal with reality.

At least all the indictments and convictions in the Reagan Ad. came at the end.
This shit is hitting the fan after only 9 months

Do you actually believe this investigation will go on for 7 more years?

Quite easily, but probably 3 more years...

Simply the next year will be taken up with Muller investigation...

Democrats then win congress and start impeachment proceedings (now here is a trick from the GOP). Make the proceedings be as embarrassing as you can to Trump and all of the White House staff with out actually going to the next step...
Just keep asking for stuff... Tax Records, Emails, Testimonies from all those female accusers, Jilted Contractors, All crap business deals...

Every embarrassing moment of his life and his children.... Then is doesn't matter, Trump doesn't have the temperament and will be tweeting like a deranged idiot in months...

He already is so doing. Read his stuff today? He appears to be UNWELL.

You appear to be a moron.

Pot calling the kettle black.

Not even close. You're the moron's sidekick. That's not a position I would envy.

 

[Reasonable]

making America GREAT AGAIN?

• The FBI's special counsel's team is digging into the limits of President Donald Trump's pardon powers.
• Because there is little precedent for governing presidential pardon powers, the special counsel, Robert Mueller, is likely to research state-level cases with elements that could be applied to the Russia investigation.
• Experts say Mueller is taking unprecedented steps to ward off efforts by the White House to guard itself against the investigation.

'These are things we've never seen before': The Russia investigation is moving into uncharted territory

ROFL! Yeah, "these are things we've never seen before." We've never seen so much hysteria over absolutely nothing before.

Thinks crimes against America are “nothing.”

Cheating on your taxes isn't a "crime against American," you fucking douche bag. Pretty soon you assholes will be claiming that jay walking is treason. That's how it worked in the former Soviet Union. Showing up to work late was a crime that could get you sent to the Gulag.

How about money laundering via Russia? Is that legal too?
Plus I never said ANYTHING about cheating on his taxes..
You’re an angry little boy but I can understand it today because you see your whole house of cards falling on your ass.

There isn't a shred of evidence that anyone in the Trump administration has engaged in money laundering of any sort. That's just one of the paranoid rants that some snowflake imagined in a drug induced stupor.


Tax evasion is basically the charge that Mueller has lodged against Manafort.

Nope it’s my prediction he money laundered.,.... he got most of his money via Russia as per Don Jr. and no it’s not only tax evasion for Manafort dopey. Also CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE US AND MONEY LAUNDERING,
Imagine you’re still pimping for these criminals.

 

[Reasonable]

Next Trump scandal.
FBI Reportedly Investigating Whitefish Puerto Rico Contract | HuffPost
They’re coming in faster than we can keep up with..

 

[bripat9643]

This just in. White House lawyers warned trump not to criticize Mueller but Bannon and others told him to get more aggressive.

Also “Trump is seething that probe reaches his former aides.”

You haven’t seen anything yet pussy.

Anonymous sources, I assume.

Fake news.

 

[Reasonable]

I told the little twerp 4 times today the charges against Manafort but he still insists its onlyvtax evasion. Lol
Trump whores are relentlessly painfully stoopid.