Faith versus reason

[Dajjal]

Isn't it better to have faith in God rather than deny yourself the comfort of belief because cold reason tells you there is no such being. To put it another way, do intellectuals outsmart themselves by finding reasons to deny the existence of God when simple people can just feel love in their hearts and be convinced there is a God by that.

 

[Asclepias]

You do realize that "love" is really just a mix of chemicals produced by the brain dont you? What is the rationale in complicating the issue by introducing not only some invisible person but a set of contradictory laws and commandments that are going to be broken and make you live in perceptual fear of going to hell?

 

[Bonzi]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Isn't it better to have faith in God rather than deny yourself the comfort of belief because cold reason tells you there is no such being. To put it another way, do intellectuals outsmart themselves by finding reasons to deny the existence of God when simple people can just feel love in their hearts and be convinced there is a God by that.

It's possible there's a creator and maybe even an afterlife. If there is, he/she/it/they are certainly nothing like what has ever been described by any human religion.

 

[Bonzi]

Love is what you think it is.....

 

[Asclepias]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god. I guess believing in god is one way to make sure all bases are covered. I never thought of it like that.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

And kind of an asshole

 

[Bonzi]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

What if you really do need Jesus? What if our idea of fair and just is not perfect?

 

[Dajjal]

You do realize that "love" is really just a mix of chemicals produced by the brain dont you? What is the rationale in complicating the issue by introducing not only some invisible person but a set of contradictory laws and commandments that are going to be broken and make you live in perceptual fear of going to hell?

From my perspective we are using a brain, and it does not make us who we are. Actually I have had a lifelong battle with my brain chemistry as I am a diagnosed schizophrenic. But all my experience tells me that I am the thinker, not my brain. The brain is just a load of porridge and we can ultimately overcome the brains processes.

 

[Bonzi]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

And kind of an asshole

From a flawed human mindset....

 

[Bonzi]

You do realize that "love" is really just a mix of chemicals produced by the brain dont you? What is the rationale in complicating the issue by introducing not only some invisible person but a set of contradictory laws and commandments that are going to be broken and make you live in perceptual fear of going to hell?

From my perspective we are using a brain, and it does not make us who we are. Actually I have had a lifelong battle with my brain chemistry as I am a diagnosed schizophrenic. But all my experience tells me that I am the thinker, not my brain. The brain is just a load of porridge and we can ultimately overcome the brains processes.

Who we are is what we DO.

 

[Asclepias]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

What if you really do need Jesus? What if our idea of fair and just is not perfect?

What are the results of us having a warped idea of fair and just.....in the long wrong?

 

[Asclepias]

You do realize that "love" is really just a mix of chemicals produced by the brain dont you? What is the rationale in complicating the issue by introducing not only some invisible person but a set of contradictory laws and commandments that are going to be broken and make you live in perceptual fear of going to hell?

From my perspective we are using a brain, and it does not make us who we are. Actually I have had a lifelong battle with my brain chemistry as I am a diagnosed schizophrenic. But all my experience tells me that I am the thinker, not my brain. The brain is just a load of porridge and we can ultimately overcome the brains processes.

What kind of experience do you have that tells you your brain is not doing the thinking?

 

[Bonzi]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

What if you really do need Jesus? What if our idea of fair and just is not perfect?

What are the results of us having a warped idea of fair and just.....in the long wrong?

conceding that there is One who DOES know and asking for guidance....

 

[TheOldSchool]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

And kind of an asshole

From a flawed human mindset....

The Abrahamic God is a fucked up psychopath.

 

[Asclepias]

You do realize that "love" is really just a mix of chemicals produced by the brain dont you? What is the rationale in complicating the issue by introducing not only some invisible person but a set of contradictory laws and commandments that are going to be broken and make you live in perceptual fear of going to hell?

From my perspective we are using a brain, and it does not make us who we are. Actually I have had a lifelong battle with my brain chemistry as I am a diagnosed schizophrenic. But all my experience tells me that I am the thinker, not my brain. The brain is just a load of porridge and we can ultimately overcome the brains processes.

Who we are is what we DO.

Who you are at the present moment is what you do. If you have learned to make new habits to break old ones you dont do the same things.

 

[Bonzi]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

And kind of an asshole

From a flawed human mindset....

The Abrahamic God is a fucked up psychopath.

In your imperfect mind and opinion....

 

[Dajjal]

Isn't it better to have faith in God rather than deny yourself the comfort of belief because cold reason tells you there is no such being. To put it another way, do intellectuals outsmart themselves by finding reasons to deny the existence of God when simple people can just feel love in their hearts and be convinced there is a God by that.

It's possible there's a creator and maybe even an afterlife. If there is, he/she/it/they are certainly nothing like what has ever been described by any human religion.

We have finite minds, and the creator of the known universe and all that's in it cannot be that small.
So all our religions are just an attempt by men to get a handle on the infinite, which is doomed from the start.
Religious theology is bound to fall short of true understanding. Especially when men exploit theology for their own ends, and lie about being messengers.

 

[Bonzi]

You do realize that "love" is really just a mix of chemicals produced by the brain dont you? What is the rationale in complicating the issue by introducing not only some invisible person but a set of contradictory laws and commandments that are going to be broken and make you live in perceptual fear of going to hell?

From my perspective we are using a brain, and it does not make us who we are. Actually I have had a lifelong battle with my brain chemistry as I am a diagnosed schizophrenic. But all my experience tells me that I am the thinker, not my brain. The brain is just a load of porridge and we can ultimately overcome the brains processes.

Who we are is what we DO.

Who you are at the present moment is what you do. If you have learned to make new habits to break old ones you dont do the same things.

NO but overall, we have a brain but we make choices and expose what we choose to expose.
It's all about choice, meaning doing or acting on things, whether physical or mental....

 

[Asclepias]

Of, if God is real - and the salvation plan depends on your life for eternity, is gambling your 80 or so years here worth it?

That indeed could be true. Somehow the god described by most religions strikes me more as a person than a god.

What if you really do need Jesus? What if our idea of fair and just is not perfect?

What are the results of us having a warped idea of fair and just.....in the long wrong?

conceding that there is One who DOES know and asking for guidance....

I have a technique that mimics that concept. I just ask all the people I admire what they would do in a certain situation if I am unsure. (in my head)