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If all it takes is 5 of 9 people to trash an amendment, how safe are the others?
Do you relish the idea of living in an oligarchy?
You do realize the court can be wrong right? Ever hear of Plessey V. Fergueson.
If it gets the point where 5 of 9 people can destroy your consitutional rights, that is probably the time to start manning the barricades.
Frankly, quite the contrary. The citizens of Chicago VOTED to limit gun ownership in the 1980's, when the death toll was a lot higher than it is now.
5 out of 9 people who don't have to live here decided we didn't know best how to run our own city.
The reason why the court exists is to decide how to best apply an amendment for the time they live in. Clearly in a time when Adam Lanza can mow down a room full of preschoolers with a weapon designed to fight wars, it's time for a more pragmatic interpretation.
Adam Lanza should never be able to get a gun. Period. If we have to take everyone else's guns because the NRA and the Gun Industry won't act responsibly, I have no problem with that.
The whole idea of a consitutional right is that is to protect the rights of the minority IN THE FACE of a majority. The majority of white southerners just LOVED Jim Crow laws, but they were unconsitutional.
Majority rule only works on items not listed in the consitution as rights given to the people. If your version were the case, legislatures could vote to remove the protection of warrants, trial by jury, and double jeopardy.
We have a cancer in this country, and they are armed.
Neil Heslin, father of 6-year-old Newtown shooting victim Jesse Lewis, was heckled at the Connecticut State Legislature as he testified Tuesday in hearings on the aftermath of the Newtown massacre. Gun enthusiasts shouted the Second Amendment! several times while Heslin, holding a picture of his son, wondered why Bushmaster assault-style weapons such as the one shooter Adam Lanza used should be sold in the state. There are a lot of things that should be changed to prevent what happened, Heslin said. Around 1,500 peopleboth pro-gun and anti, who all had to pass through metal detectorsattended the hearings at the Connecticut capitol under heightened security. Hundreds testified, with one lawyer insisting the local and national debate has been co-opted by the anti-gun agenda.
Read it at Connecticut Post
January 29, 2013 7:05 AM
When you use a picture of your dead child to suppress the rights of Americans, you should expect to be heckled. To pout about it deserves more heckling.
It was HIS dead child, you fool. His child is dead because some lunatic managed to get their hands on a weapon they shouldn't have been able to get their hands on.
The whole idea of a consitutional right is that is to protect the rights of the minority IN THE FACE of a majority. The majority of white southerners just LOVED Jim Crow laws, but they were unconsitutional.
Majority rule only works on items not listed in the consitution as rights given to the people. If your version were the case, legislatures could vote to remove the protection of warrants, trial by jury, and double jeopardy.
Again, your interpretation would be fine if the Founders really WANTED Adam Lanza to have the ability to moe down a room full of pre-schoolers.
I don't think that's what they had in mind.
Quite the reverse, they wanted the militia to be "Well-REgulated", which means, "No Crazy People".
If it applies to one amendment, it applies to all. The rights granted are given to the people as individuals, and removing said right requires an amendment.
And back then they didnt have the DMR to define what crazy was. They also bled themselves and thought malaria was caused by swampwater.
The specifics of what they wanted is irrelevent, it was the ideals they passed on. And the ideals were that if they thought something was important enough to include in the bill of rights, then you have to repeal that consitutional right before you can mess with it.
If your ideas are so awesome, you should have no trouble meeting the requirements to change the amendment. I'd start now if I were you.
If it applies to one amendment, it applies to all. The rights granted are given to the people as individuals, and removing said right requires an amendment.
And back then they didnt have the DMR to define what crazy was. They also bled themselves and thought malaria was caused by swampwater.
The specifics of what they wanted is irrelevent, it was the ideals they passed on. And the ideals were that if they thought something was important enough to include in the bill of rights, then you have to repeal that consitutional right before you can mess with it.
If your ideas are so awesome, you should have no trouble meeting the requirements to change the amendment. I'd start now if I were you.
No, I don't have to go through that much trouble.
THere are easier ways to fuck with the gun manufacturers and gun owners without amending the constitution.
Start with the manufacturers. Pass a law, anyone KILLED by a gun can sue the shit out of the gun company that made it.
Guarnutee you, they'll start paying attention to who gets their products after that.
If it applies to one amendment, it applies to all. The rights granted are given to the people as individuals, and removing said right requires an amendment.
And back then they didnt have the DMR to define what crazy was. They also bled themselves and thought malaria was caused by swampwater.
The specifics of what they wanted is irrelevent, it was the ideals they passed on. And the ideals were that if they thought something was important enough to include in the bill of rights, then you have to repeal that consitutional right before you can mess with it.
If your ideas are so awesome, you should have no trouble meeting the requirements to change the amendment. I'd start now if I were you.
No, I don't have to go through that much trouble.
THere are easier ways to fuck with the gun manufacturers and gun owners without amending the constitution.
Start with the manufacturers. Pass a law, anyone KILLED by a gun can sue the shit out of the gun company that made it.
Guarnutee you, they'll start paying attention to who gets their products after that.
If it applies to one amendment, it applies to all. The rights granted are given to the people as individuals, and removing said right requires an amendment.
And back then they didnt have the DMR to define what crazy was. They also bled themselves and thought malaria was caused by swampwater.
The specifics of what they wanted is irrelevent, it was the ideals they passed on. And the ideals were that if they thought something was important enough to include in the bill of rights, then you have to repeal that consitutional right before you can mess with it.
If your ideas are so awesome, you should have no trouble meeting the requirements to change the amendment. I'd start now if I were you.
No, I don't have to go through that much trouble.
THere are easier ways to fuck with the gun manufacturers and gun owners without amending the constitution.
Start with the manufacturers. Pass a law, anyone KILLED by a gun can sue the shit out of the gun company that made it.
Guarnutee you, they'll start paying attention to who gets their products after that.
Idiots
Which was a crime in itself going there armed yet we need more laws .....How absurd is that?When you use a picture of your dead child to suppress the rights of Americans, you should expect to be heckled. To pout about it deserves more heckling.
It was HIS dead child, you fool. His child is dead because some lunatic managed to get their hands on a weapon they shouldn't have been able to get their hands on.
What law would have prevented that? He already violated about 27 laws before he ever set foot on school grounds.
Did anybody watch the footage?
He asked if anyone in the room could give him a reason to own an assault weapon, there was silence in the room after he asked, he then reiterated his question by looking around and saying "and not one person can answer that question or give me an answer"
Then he got a very subdued response from a few people.
There was no shouting.
He was not heckled.
But that doesn't fit the agenda now does it?
Let me ask you control freaks a question.
I have owned a rifle since I was 6 years old. I am now 46 years old. In that 40 year span, I purchased a few more rifles, shotguns and hand guns. I have fired countless rounds of ammo at the pistol, rifle and skeet ranges at various venues. In those 40 years I have never pointed a weapon at another person, never accidentally fired a weapon and have never injured myself or anyone else with a weapon.
Now can any of you control freaks tell me how do the facts above contribute in any way shape or form to gun violence, murder, or the killing of children ?
We have a cancer in this country, and they are armed.
Read it at Connecticut Post
January 29, 2013 7:05 AM
The guy was not heckled, NBC edited the tape again. Some of the people in the audience answered the question that he had asked them. This whole thread is based on a BS.
Let me ask you control freaks a question.
I have owned a rifle since I was 6 years old. I am now 46 years old. In that 40 year span, I purchased a few more rifles, shotguns and hand guns. I have fired countless rounds of ammo at the pistol, rifle and skeet ranges at various venues. In those 40 years I have never pointed a weapon at another person, never accidentally fired a weapon and have never injured myself or anyone else with a weapon.
Now can any of you control freaks tell me how do the facts above contribute in any way shape or form to gun violence, murder, or the killing of children ?
I have been flying on commercial aircraft for 60 years. Not even one time have I had the urge to storm the cabin and highjack the airplane. Not ONCE!!! Yet I have to take my shoes off, put all my personal belongings through an x-ray machine, walk through a metal detector, and even submit to a bodily search.
You right wing folks prove my signature is profound every time you open your pie hole.
Let me ask you control freaks a question.
I have owned a rifle since I was 6 years old. I am now 46 years old. In that 40 year span, I purchased a few more rifles, shotguns and hand guns. I have fired countless rounds of ammo at the pistol, rifle and skeet ranges at various venues. In those 40 years I have never pointed a weapon at another person, never accidentally fired a weapon and have never injured myself or anyone else with a weapon.
Now can any of you control freaks tell me how do the facts above contribute in any way shape or form to gun violence, murder, or the killing of children ?
I have been flying on commercial aircraft for 60 years. Not even one time have I had the urge to storm the cabin and highjack the airplane. Not ONCE!!! Yet I have to take my shoes off, put all my personal belongings through an x-ray machine, walk through a metal detector, and even submit to a bodily search.
You right wing folks prove my signature is profound every time you open your pie hole.
How is that remotely comparable? Do you go through a background check before you buy a ticket?
I have been flying on commercial aircraft for 60 years. Not even one time have I had the urge to storm the cabin and highjack the airplane. Not ONCE!!! Yet I have to take my shoes off, put all my personal belongings through an x-ray machine, walk through a metal detector, and even submit to a bodily search.
You right wing folks prove my signature is profound every time you open your pie hole.
How is that remotely comparable? Do you go through a background check before you buy a ticket?
That is not a background check, it is a direct and personal check.
Are you for being able to buy a gun without a background check??
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