FBI is wrapping up e-mail investigation with no evidence Clinton willfully violated the law

[LeftofLeft]

You know nothing about Cybersecurity. You keep exposing yourself. Worse, you can't validate.

I don't have to know anything about cyber security. I can read and comprehend.

You must know that there are sophisticated hacking programs that imitate a common user and leave no unique footprint. It simply looks like someone allowed had used the system.

Comprehend this. I am in the Cybersecurity industry. The sophisticated hacking programs you refer to are polymorphic attacks architected at the lowest level in the stack to evade even the most defense in depth security infrastructures. Malware is being designed on the fly to go undetected to capture and disseminate information to the hackers. The State Department is not unlike organizations that have a sophisticated security infrastructure yet still could be vulnerable to unknown targeted malware. What was the Security Infrastructure like in the closet?

That said, just because you read what you want does not mean nothing was hacked.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This threads still going on? You morons still believe you have to willfully commit espionage?

Morons.

One has to actively engage in the activity for it to be espionage. It cannot be done passively. The intent is the crime.

Espionage
The act of securing information of a military or political nature that a competing nation holds secret. It can involve the analysis of diplomatic reports, publications, statistics, and broadcasts, as well as spying, a clandestine activity carried out by an individual or individuals working under secret identity to gather classified information on behalf of another entity or nation. In the United States, the organization that heads most activities dedicated to espionage is the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

espionage

WRONG!

One could argue that she did willfully engage in 'espionage' because, as the State Department IG pointed out, her IT tech had to shut her server down twice because it was being hacked. BY LAW she was required to report it - she didn't. By not doing so she broke the law.

Also, by doing so, at the least, she is guilty of 'gross negligence' under the Espionage Act, which does NOT require a 'willful' act!

Any way you cut, numerous times in numerous ways, this butch is GUILTY.

Total nonsense. There is no confirmation that the server was hacked.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This threads still going on? You morons still believe you have to willfully commit espionage?

Morons.

One has to actively engage in the activity for it to be espionage. It cannot be done passively. The intent is the crime.

Espionage
The act of securing information of a military or political nature that a competing nation holds secret. It can involve the analysis of diplomatic reports, publications, statistics, and broadcasts, as well as spying, a clandestine activity carried out by an individual or individuals working under secret identity to gather classified information on behalf of another entity or nation. In the United States, the organization that heads most activities dedicated to espionage is the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

espionage

WRONG!

One could argue that she did willfully engage in 'espionage' because, as the State Department IG pointed out, her IT tech had to shut her server down twice because it was being hacked. BY LAW she was required to report it - she didn't. By not doing so she broke the law.

Also, by doing so, at the least, she is guilty of 'gross negligence' under the Espionage Act, which does NOT require a 'willful' act!

Any way you cut, numerous times in numerous ways, this butch is GUILTY.

Because he feared it might be being hacked...there is no evidence it was, unlike the State Dept system, dupe.

Which is just the opposite of negligence.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And the string of total BS ''scandals'' goes on and on...The Pub Propaganda machine and the haters/dupes are a pure disgrace. Is Trump a dupe or a liar, anyway? lol

Hillary has been caught in so many lies but because she has a (D) next to her name, you and the the masses have been conditioned to throw any and all logic for a critical eye out the door and salute what the party tells you. You have no problem with a politically appointed Secretary of State a couple of heartbeats away from the Oval Office hosting and storing a private email server with State files and data that could compromise security of this Nation. That is a proven fact among you people.

Her server never hacked. State Dept was hacked. Total bs, dupe.

That's not what guciffer says.

How cute. You believe a felon and con man.

Just like a Trump supporter would.

 

[Arizona Willie]

To most Democrats, especially in the MSM, Bill Clinton is a 'loveable ole pervert.' But the reality is actually much darker. He's sexually abused young women for many years. He's a devious sex predator like Bill Cosby. And his wife is an accomplice. She's defended him and viciously attacked his numerous victims. They're both very bad people who should be in jail.

Since the 1990's conservative oligarchs have been paying people to come up with salacious stories about the Clintons, without any evidence that any of these things happened. It's pretty clear that Clinton is a serial adulterer, but the stories of his so-called sexual assaults come across as really ham-handed attempts at seduction. And when told "No", he stopped.

The one and only woman who has accused Clinton of rape, has also publicly stated that it never happened. Which is the lie and which is the truth? None of the other women filed suit, laid charges, or filed a complaint at the time.

Monica Lewinsky told friends she was "packing her knee pads" and moving to Washington. Clinton didn't "prey upon a young intern". She was young and foolish, but she was nobody's victim.

========
You didn't get the quote of Monica quite right. She said she was " packing my Presidential knee pads ".
She firmly intended to seduce Clinton if she got the chance. An innocent little girl she was not.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This threads still going on? You morons still believe you have to willfully commit espionage?

Morons.

One has to actively engage in the activity for it to be espionage. It cannot be done passively. The intent is the crime.

Espionage
The act of securing information of a military or political nature that a competing nation holds secret. It can involve the analysis of diplomatic reports, publications, statistics, and broadcasts, as well as spying, a clandestine activity carried out by an individual or individuals working under secret identity to gather classified information on behalf of another entity or nation. In the United States, the organization that heads most activities dedicated to espionage is the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

espionage

WRONG!

One could argue that she did willfully engage in 'espionage' because, as the State Department IG pointed out, her IT tech had to shut her server down twice because it was being hacked. BY LAW she was required to report it - she didn't. By not doing so she broke the law.

Also, by doing so, at the least, she is guilty of 'gross negligence' under the Espionage Act, which does NOT require a 'willful' act!

Any way you cut, numerous times in numerous ways, this butch is GUILTY.

Because he feared it might be being hacked...there is no evidence it was, unlike the State Dept system, dupe.

WRONG. The IG specifically stated a hacker WAS IN HER SERVER when he shut it down, TWICE. And they were STILL REQUIRED BY LAW to report it, even if the hacker had not gotten all the way in. Again, they did not do so - they BROKE THE LAW.

Link to the IG stating that.
There were suspicious emails with attachments that weren't opened. The system was shut down to remove them. Far from hacked.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

• First "Shocking" Deposition In Clinton Email Case - She Didn't Use A Password
  Zerohedge ^ | 5/27/16 | Tyler Durden
  First "Shocking" Deposition In Clinton Email Case Reveals She Did Not Use A Password **SNIP** He was asked about the inconvenience of the State Department’s passwords system, and he said that he eliminated her need for any passwords: A: She wouldn’t have had a password. Q: So the computer would have just been open and be able to use without going through any security features? A: Correct.

• Dick Morris: Private Aide Ran Hillary’s Email Server Without Security Clearance
  Teaparty.org ^ | 5/26/16 | Corruption
  (Newsmax) – A personal aide to former President Bill Clinton with no security clearance maintained Hillary Clinton’s private email account and server — greatly jeopardizing national security, political strategist Dick Morris told Newsmax TV on Thursday. The aide, Justin Cooper, served the Clinton Foundation while working for a private consulting firm, Teneo Holdings and Decision Sciences Corp., that served foreign dictators, Morris told “The Steve Malzberg Show” in an interview. “He has no security clearance — and he had access to every single email either sent by or received by the secretary of state of the United States for four...

Tyler Durden

You don't even realize you're being played.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You know nothing about Cybersecurity. You keep exposing yourself. Worse, you can't validate.

I don't have to know anything about cyber security. I can read and comprehend.

You must know that there are sophisticated hacking programs that imitate a common user and leave no unique footprint. It simply looks like someone allowed had used the system.

Comprehend this. I am in the Cybersecurity industry. The sophisticated hacking programs you refer to are polymorphic attacks architected at the lowest level in the stack to evade even the most defense in depth security infrastructures. Malware is being designed on the fly to go undetected to capture and disseminate information to the hackers. The State Department is not unlike organizations that have a sophisticated security infrastructure yet still could be vulnerable to unknown targeted malware. What was the Security Infrastructure like in the closet?

That said, just because you read what you want does not mean nothing was hacked.

Sent via email, correct?
Email must be opened, correct?
Shutting down the server to remove them would be prudent, correct?
If the malware never enters the server than there is no back door for a hacker to enter, correct?

You made no point at all cyberman.

 

[mikegriffith1]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

And the Emperor's New Clothes are superb.

If you break the law, you break the law, whether you do so "willfully" or not. But at least some of her law breaking was clearly willful, like when she told her aide Sullivan--we have all this in e-mail--to strip out the headings from a classified fax and send it to her via unclassified fax. That is a violation of federal law that would get any regular person fired and their security clearance revoked, at a minimum.

Furthermore, she put untold numbers of lives at risk by housing highly classified information--including special access intelligence--on an unsecured private server. She surely knew that was breaking the law. That's part of the reason that she has changed her story so many times about the server and her e-mails.

And this is the person you want running the country? Wow.

 

[Ame®icano]

I'm not suggesting that Bill Clinton isn't a serial adulterer, or that he didn't come on to these women, but they said no and he stopped, and that's according to their own accounts. Only Broaderick says he raped her, or he didn't, whichever of her interviews is the truth. It is to be noted that the denial was a sworn affidavit.

None of the other women have filed affidavits, law suits, or testified under oath. So no, given the history of the conservative movement to discredit the Clintons, the money they're prepared to spend to do it, and the lack of convincing accounts (no affidavits, no sworn testimony), Bill Clinton's "victims" are very much less creditable than the women who gave evidence against Bill Cosby, with absolutely nothing to gain.

Dragonlady, your intentional ignorance is not even surprising. Why does a woman, I am presuming you are a woman, defend a rapist and serial abuser of women?

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

Whitewater
Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker - fraud felony convictions - 3 counts (Tucker resigned facing impeachment)

Jim McDougal - fraud and conspiracy felony convictions - 18 counts

Susan McDougal - felony - 4 counts (pardoned during Clinton's last minute pardongate payoffs)

William J. Marks Sr - conspiracy

Stephen Smith - conspiracy

Larry Kuca - Fraud

Neal Ainley - 2 misdemeanors for embezzlement

David Hale - guilty plea - conspiracy

Chris Wade - felony -

Whitewater real-estate investor John Haley - recent!

1998 on fraud Robert Palmer - felony for conspiracy Charles Matthews - guilty plea for bribery Eugene Fitzhugh -

Whitewater - bribery Webster Hubbell - #2 ranking Justice Dept. Official - felony for embezzlement and fraud

John Latham - CEO of Madison Bank - bank fraud Campaign

Finance: Johnny Chung - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Gene Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Nora Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Howard Glicken - guilty plea - 2 midemeanors - funneling foreign donations

Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie - guilty plea - illegal Clinton campaign donations

John Huang - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Paula Jonesgate: William Jefferson Clinton - found guilty - civil contempt of court - lying under oath about material facts. The Office of the Independent Council further presented Clinton with an agreement that had him disbarred from practicing law for 5 years and made him sign a statement admitting to his deception

Post Administration

Sandy Bergergate Sandy Berger – Clinton National Security Adviser -- found guilty of stealing highly class documents from the National Archive and destroying them.

 

[Ame®icano]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

And the Emperor's New Clothes are superb.

If you break the law, you break the law, whether you do so "willfully" or not. But at least some of her law breaking was clearly willful, like when she told her aide Sullivan--we have all this in e-mail--to strip out the headings from a classified fax and send it to her via unclassified fax. That is a violation of federal law that would get any regular person fired and their security clearance revoked, at a minimum.

Furthermore, she put untold numbers of lives at risk by housing highly classified information--including special access intelligence--on an unsecured private server. She surely knew that was breaking the law. That's part of the reason that she has changed her story so many times about the server and her e-mails.

And this is the person you want running the country? Wow.

 

[JimH52]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

And the Emperor's New Clothes are superb.

If you break the law, you break the law, whether you do so "willfully" or not. But at least some of her law breaking was clearly willful, like when she told her aide Sullivan--we have all this in e-mail--to strip out the headings from a classified fax and send it to her via unclassified fax. That is a violation of federal law that would get any regular person fired and their security clearance revoked, at a minimum.

Furthermore, she put untold numbers of lives at risk by housing highly classified information--including special access intelligence--on an unsecured private server. She surely knew that was breaking the law. That's part of the reason that she has changed her story so many times about the server and her e-mails.

And this is the person you want running the country? Wow.

Wanna wait until the FBI finishes before you declare Hillary guilty?

 

[JimH52]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

And the Emperor's New Clothes are superb.

If you break the law, you break the law, whether you do so "willfully" or not. But at least some of her law breaking was clearly willful, like when she told her aide Sullivan--we have all this in e-mail--to strip out the headings from a classified fax and send it to her via unclassified fax. That is a violation of federal law that would get any regular person fired and their security clearance revoked, at a minimum.

Furthermore, she put untold numbers of lives at risk by housing highly classified information--including special access intelligence--on an unsecured private server. She surely knew that was breaking the law. That's part of the reason that she has changed her story so many times about the server and her e-mails.

And this is the person you want running the country? Wow.

And you would rather have Donnie Duck I assume?

 

[justaguy]

Hillarys emails are nothing compared with the gaping hole in the US governments secrets, accessed by any Country with a decent hacker on the payroll. So let her carry on doing what all dumb, incompetent, politicians do......screw the Country and its people !!!

 

[LeftofLeft]

You know nothing about Cybersecurity. You keep exposing yourself. Worse, you can't validate.

I don't have to know anything about cyber security. I can read and comprehend.

You must know that there are sophisticated hacking programs that imitate a common user and leave no unique footprint. It simply looks like someone allowed had used the system.

Comprehend this. I am in the Cybersecurity industry. The sophisticated hacking programs you refer to are polymorphic attacks architected at the lowest level in the stack to evade even the most defense in depth security infrastructures. Malware is being designed on the fly to go undetected to capture and disseminate information to the hackers. The State Department is not unlike organizations that have a sophisticated security infrastructure yet still could be vulnerable to unknown targeted malware. What was the Security Infrastructure like in the closet?

That said, just because you read what you want does not mean nothing was hacked.

Sent via email, correct?
Email must be opened, correct?
Shutting down the server to remove them would be prudent, correct?
If the malware never enters the server than there is no back door for a hacker to enter, correct?

You made no point at all cyberman.

Regardless of your background, you make no sense whatsoever. When was the server shut down? Provide a timeline. From there, understand the concept of "zero day" and the "dwell time factor" when it comes to malware. HINT: for your retort to have any ounce of credibility, the server would have never been set up in the first place.

 

[JimH52]

You know nothing about Cybersecurity. You keep exposing yourself. Worse, you can't validate.

I don't have to know anything about cyber security. I can read and comprehend.

You must know that there are sophisticated hacking programs that imitate a common user and leave no unique footprint. It simply looks like someone allowed had used the system.

Comprehend this. I am in the Cybersecurity industry. The sophisticated hacking programs you refer to are polymorphic attacks architected at the lowest level in the stack to evade even the most defense in depth security infrastructures. Malware is being designed on the fly to go undetected to capture and disseminate information to the hackers. The State Department is not unlike organizations that have a sophisticated security infrastructure yet still could be vulnerable to unknown targeted malware. What was the Security Infrastructure like in the closet?

That said, just because you read what you want does not mean nothing was hacked.

Sent via email, correct?
Email must be opened, correct?
Shutting down the server to remove them would be prudent, correct?
If the malware never enters the server than there is no back door for a hacker to enter, correct?

You made no point at all cyberman.

Regardless of your background, you make no sense whatsoever. When was the server shut down? Provide a timeline. From there, understand the concept of "zero day" and the "dwell time factor" when it comes to malware. HINT: for your retort to have any ounce of credibility, the server would have never been set up in the first place.

When the FBI clears Hillary, the Trumpites will yell FOWL. Maybe Donnie will be indicted for fraudulent business practices in the Dump University scandal by then. The first day in court is also the first day of the GOP convention. Donnie will be in Cleveland being fitted for his crown.

 

[paulitician]

To most Democrats, especially in the MSM, Bill Clinton is a 'loveable ole pervert.' But the reality is actually much darker. He's sexually abused young women for many years. He's a devious sex predator like Bill Cosby. And his wife is an accomplice. She's defended him and viciously attacked his numerous victims. They're both very bad people who should be in jail.

Since the 1990's conservative oligarchs have been paying people to come up with salacious stories about the Clintons, without any evidence that any of these things happened. It's pretty clear that Clinton is a serial adulterer, but the stories of his so-called sexual assaults come across as really ham-handed attempts at seduction. And when told "No", he stopped.

The one and only woman who has accused Clinton of rape, has also publicly stated that it never happened. Which is the lie and which is the truth? None of the other women filed suit, laid charges, or filed a complaint at the time.

Monica Lewinsky told friends she was "packing her knee pads" and moving to Washington. Clinton didn't "prey upon a young intern". She was young and foolish, but she was nobody's victim.

========
You didn't get the quote of Monica quite right. She said she was " packing my Presidential knee pads ".
She firmly intended to seduce Clinton if she got the chance. An innocent little girl she was not.

Clinton like Bill Cosby, has a long history of abusing women. He's not the 'Victim.' Shame on all you Clinton Bootlickers for blaming the real victims. You're very bad folks.

 

[boedicca]

I'm not suggesting that Bill Clinton isn't a serial adulterer, or that he didn't come on to these women, but they said no and he stopped, and that's according to their own accounts. Only Broaderick says he raped her, or he didn't, whichever of her interviews is the truth. It is to be noted that the denial was a sworn affidavit.

None of the other women have filed affidavits, law suits, or testified under oath. So no, given the history of the conservative movement to discredit the Clintons, the money they're prepared to spend to do it, and the lack of convincing accounts (no affidavits, no sworn testimony), Bill Clinton's "victims" are very much less creditable than the women who gave evidence against Bill Cosby, with absolutely nothing to gain.

Dragonlady, your intentional ignorance is not even surprising. Why does a woman, I am presuming you are a woman, defend a rapist and serial abuser of women?

William Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

Whitewater
Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker - fraud felony convictions - 3 counts (Tucker resigned facing impeachment)

Jim McDougal - fraud and conspiracy felony convictions - 18 counts

Susan McDougal - felony - 4 counts (pardoned during Clinton's last minute pardongate payoffs)

William J. Marks Sr - conspiracy

Stephen Smith - conspiracy

Larry Kuca - Fraud

Neal Ainley - 2 misdemeanors for embezzlement

David Hale - guilty plea - conspiracy

Chris Wade - felony -

Whitewater real-estate investor John Haley - recent!

1998 on fraud Robert Palmer - felony for conspiracy Charles Matthews - guilty plea for bribery Eugene Fitzhugh -

Whitewater - bribery Webster Hubbell - #2 ranking Justice Dept. Official - felony for embezzlement and fraud

John Latham - CEO of Madison Bank - bank fraud Campaign

Finance: Johnny Chung - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Gene Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Nora Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Howard Glicken - guilty plea - 2 midemeanors - funneling foreign donations

Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie - guilty plea - illegal Clinton campaign donations

John Huang - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Paula Jonesgate: William Jefferson Clinton - found guilty - civil contempt of court - lying under oath about material facts. The Office of the Independent Council further presented Clinton with an agreement that had him disbarred from practicing law for 5 years and made him sign a statement admitting to his deception

Post Administration

Sandy Bergergate Sandy Berger – Clinton National Security Adviser -- found guilty of stealing highly class documents from the National Archive and destroying them.

And he's still on the prowl!


7248 by boedicca on US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[boedicca]

To most Democrats, especially in the MSM, Bill Clinton is a 'loveable ole pervert.' But the reality is actually much darker. He's sexually abused young women for many years. He's a devious sex predator like Bill Cosby. And his wife is an accomplice. She's defended him and viciously attacked his numerous victims. They're both very bad people who should be in jail.

Since the 1990's conservative oligarchs have been paying people to come up with salacious stories about the Clintons, without any evidence that any of these things happened. It's pretty clear that Clinton is a serial adulterer, but the stories of his so-called sexual assaults come across as really ham-handed attempts at seduction. And when told "No", he stopped.

The one and only woman who has accused Clinton of rape, has also publicly stated that it never happened. Which is the lie and which is the truth? None of the other women filed suit, laid charges, or filed a complaint at the time.

Monica Lewinsky told friends she was "packing her knee pads" and moving to Washington. Clinton didn't "prey upon a young intern". She was young and foolish, but she was nobody's victim.

========
You didn't get the quote of Monica quite right. She said she was " packing my Presidential knee pads ".
She firmly intended to seduce Clinton if she got the chance. An innocent little girl she was not.

Clinton like Bill Cosby, has a long history of abusing women. He's not the 'Victim.' Shame on all you Clinton Bootlickers for blaming the real victims. You're very bad folks.

And even worse, Clinton's Wife helped him to threaten and to destroy the lives of the women he abused.