Fed gov't set to sue FL over voter purge

[The T]

Well, they've just racked up another state in their lose column.. bravo for them..

State of Florida is fed up with them as is Our Governor/Legislature.

They can kiss Florida good bye.

 

[Seawytch]

I can understand why they might feel coerced into following the Fed's edict to cease and desist. It would not be the first time the Fed used threats and coercion to force a state to comply with federal demands:

TSA Threatens To Cancel All Flights Out Of Texas If 'Groping Bill' Passed - Forbes

Nice Strawman that has nothing to do with the topic. The Elections Officials do not wish to purge their voters because the list is flawed not because the DOJ is opposed.

Then the Feds should have sent their list when it was requested. They are required by law to do so..

I don't disagree, but it is not a good reason to use a horribly flawed list to purge voters.

 

[The Rabbi]

Nice Strawman that has nothing to do with the topic. The Elections Officials do not wish to purge their voters because the list is flawed not because the DOJ is opposed.

Then the Feds should have sent their list when it was requested. They are required by law to do so..

I don't disagree, but it is not a good reason to use a horribly flawed list to purge voters.

So what's your solution?

 

[Seawytch]

Then the Feds should have sent their list when it was requested. They are required by law to do so..

I don't disagree, but it is not a good reason to use a horribly flawed list to purge voters.

So what's your solution?

Use the flawed list to investigate, not purge. When registering to vote you sign under penalty of perjury that you are over 18 and a citizen. Charge people that have perjured themselves.

 

[PredFan]

For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my governor!

 

[WillowTree]

Nice Strawman that has nothing to do with the topic. The Elections Officials do not wish to purge their voters because the list is flawed not because the DOJ is opposed.

Then the Feds should have sent their list when it was requested. They are required by law to do so..

I don't disagree, but it is not a good reason to use a horribly flawed list to purge voters.

Horribly flawed my ass. That's why the Feds won't send one. Cause they know the accuracy.

 

[The T]

For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my governor!

He's a businessman much like Romney...Imagine that?

 

[Chris]

Governor Voldemort has stepped in shit on this one.

 

[The Rabbi]

I don't disagree, but it is not a good reason to use a horribly flawed list to purge voters.

So what's your solution?

Use the flawed list to investigate, not purge. When registering to vote you sign under penalty of perjury that you are over 18 and a citizen. Charge people that have perjured themselves.

Investigate? How many suspect names do they have? How long would it take to "investigate" every one of them?
And they have already signed under penalty of perjury.

 

[Chris]

Since the 2010 election, Republicans have waged an unprecedented war on voting, with the unspoken but unmistakable goal of preventing millions of mostly Democratic voters, including students, minorities, immigrants, and the elderly, from casting ballots in 2012. More than a dozen states, from Texas to Wisconsin and Florida, have passed laws designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process, whether by requiring birth certificates to register to vote, restricting voter registration drives, curtailing early voting, or requiring government-issued IDs to cast a ballot.


Within days, the crucial battlegrounds of Pennsylvania and Virginia will become the latest GOP states to pass legislation erecting new barriers to voting. If, as expected, the new laws lead to fewer Democrats casting ballots in November, both states could favor Republicans, possibly shifting the balance of power in Congress and denying Barack Obama a second term.
Pennsylvania will be the ninth GOP state since 2010 to require a photo ID in order to vote; the state's law mandates a government-issued ID or one from a college or nursing home. According to a study by the Brennan Center for Justice, 11 percent of U.S. citizens lack a government-issued ID, but the numbers are significantly higher among young voters (18 percent), voters 65 or older (18 percent) and African-Americans (25 percent). Based on these figures, as many as 700,000 Pennsylvanians may not be able to vote in the next election.

GOP War on Voting Targets Swing States | Ari Berman | Politics News | Rolling Stone

 

[The T]

Rolling Stone Chrissy? Really?

 

[WillowTree]

Since the 2010 election, Republicans have waged an unprecedented war on voting, with the unspoken but unmistakable goal of preventing millions of mostly Democratic voters, including students, minorities, immigrants, and the elderly, from casting ballots in 2012. More than a dozen states, from Texas to Wisconsin and Florida, have passed laws designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process, whether by requiring birth certificates to register to vote, restricting voter registration drives, curtailing early voting, or requiring government-issued IDs to cast a ballot.


Within days, the crucial battlegrounds of Pennsylvania and Virginia will become the latest GOP states to pass legislation erecting new barriers to voting. If, as expected, the new laws lead to fewer Democrats casting ballots in November, both states could favor Republicans, possibly shifting the balance of power in Congress and denying Barack Obama a second term.
Pennsylvania will be the ninth GOP state since 2010 to require a photo ID in order to vote; the state's law mandates a government-issued ID or one from a college or nursing home. According to a study by the Brennan Center for Justice, 11 percent of U.S. citizens lack a government-issued ID, but the numbers are significantly higher among young voters (18 percent), voters 65 or older (18 percent) and African-Americans (25 percent). Based on these figures, as many as 700,000 Pennsylvanians may not be able to vote in the next election.

GOP War on Voting Targets Swing States | Ari Berman | Politics News | Rolling Stone

why do you want illegals to vote?

 

[The T]

Since the 2010 election, Republicans have waged an unprecedented war on voting, with the unspoken but unmistakable goal of preventing millions of mostly Democratic voters, including students, minorities, immigrants, and the elderly, from casting ballots in 2012. More than a dozen states, from Texas to Wisconsin and Florida, have passed laws designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process, whether by requiring birth certificates to register to vote, restricting voter registration drives, curtailing early voting, or requiring government-issued IDs to cast a ballot.


Within days, the crucial battlegrounds of Pennsylvania and Virginia will become the latest GOP states to pass legislation erecting new barriers to voting. If, as expected, the new laws lead to fewer Democrats casting ballots in November, both states could favor Republicans, possibly shifting the balance of power in Congress and denying Barack Obama a second term.
Pennsylvania will be the ninth GOP state since 2010 to require a photo ID in order to vote; the state's law mandates a government-issued ID or one from a college or nursing home. According to a study by the Brennan Center for Justice, 11 percent of U.S. citizens lack a government-issued ID, but the numbers are significantly higher among young voters (18 percent), voters 65 or older (18 percent) and African-Americans (25 percent). Based on these figures, as many as 700,000 Pennsylvanians may not be able to vote in the next election.

GOP War on Voting Targets Swing States | Ari Berman | Politics News | Rolling Stone

why do you want illegals to vote?

He doesn't care about the LAW.

 

[J.E.D]

They are.

The ones violating the federal law are the feds.

No, they're not. They are not allowed to make certain changes without federal approval. It's part of the Voting Rights Act.

In those area's you are concerned about, they already have the approval.

You of course, realize that the part of the Voting Rights Act only pertains to 5 counties in the State of Florida? And that the procedures they are using have already been approved?

Link

 

[J.E.D]

They are.

The ones violating the federal law are the feds.

No, they're not. They are not allowed to make certain changes without federal approval. It's part of the Voting Rights Act.

Horseshit. They aren't violating federal law. The Holder DOJ isn't the final word on federal law.

No, but the law is. According to the Voting Rights Act, Florida is in violation of the law. You can cry all you like about big bad Holder, but your whining doesn't change the facts.

 

[hortysir]

For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my governor!

You weren't here for Jeb?

 

[Seawytch]

So what's your solution?

Use the flawed list to investigate, not purge. When registering to vote you sign under penalty of perjury that you are over 18 and a citizen. Charge people that have perjured themselves.

Investigate? How many suspect names do they have? How long would it take to "investigate" every one of them?
And they have already signed under penalty of perjury.

According to the articles I've read, roughly a half dozen people on the flawed list appear to have voted. Investigate and charge them if necessary. Purging voters who are citizens because your list is flawed seems a lot like guilty until proven innocent to me.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Notice they won't address the 90 day law violation. How honest and upstanding the repubs are. Tell us more about how you respect the rule of law and freedom. Try to keep a straight face.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Governor Skeletor doesn't want to stop his purge, but he can't find a county registrar that will do it...even among Republicans.

I can understand why they might feel coerced into following the Fed's edict to cease and desist. It would not be the first time the Fed used threats and coercion to force a state to comply with federal demands:

TSA Threatens To Cancel All Flights Out Of Texas If 'Groping Bill' Passed - Forbes

Nice Strawman that has nothing to do with the topic. The Elections Officials do not wish to purge their voters because the list is flawed not because the DOJ is opposed.

Sure, those bureaucratic wonklets are most certainly NOT going to admit they are cowed by fed threats. Not a strawman, an apt comparison to a similar situation where the state attempts to correct for federal overreach and criminal violation of individual Constitutional rights, to be slapped down for their efforts.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I can understand why they might feel coerced into following the Fed's edict to cease and desist. It would not be the first time the Fed used threats and coercion to force a state to comply with federal demands:

TSA Threatens To Cancel All Flights Out Of Texas If 'Groping Bill' Passed - Forbes

Nice Strawman that has nothing to do with the topic. The Elections Officials do not wish to purge their voters because the list is flawed not because the DOJ is opposed.

Then the Feds should have sent their list when it was requested. They are required by law to do so..

Oh, pfaw on the law. The feds have no need to bother with such petty things.