Feds have now linked at least 14 California homicides to Aryan Brotherhood; latest indictment includes notorious gangster already serving double life

[Zincwarrior]

White supremacist prison gang has been accused seven murders and multiple additional murder conspiracies in Southern California. This includes killing gang member family members testifying against them. Yikes.

MSN

FRESNO, Calif. — In the latest twist to an already sprawling prosecution of the Aryan Brotherhood, prosecutors have brought new murder and conspiracy charges against a man who has spent most of his adult life behind bars and is already serving concurrent life sentences in federal and state prison.

In a racketeering indictment unsealed this week, longtime California prisoner John Stinson was charged with two counts of conspiracy to commit murder as well as Employment Development Department fraud. He joins a total of 20 alleged Aryan Brotherhood members and associates charged with a total of seven homicides and several more murder conspiracies. Together with a related federal prosecution in Sacramento, this news case means that since 2019, federal authorities have tied the prison gang to at least 14 killings, including two separate double homicides in Southern California and 10 prison stabbings.

For Stinson, this prosecution is deja vu all over again. He was convicted in 2006 of conspiring with top-ranking Aryan Brotherhood members to commit four murders and several attempted killings, including the notorious 1986 slaying of Richard Barnes, who was reportedly killed because his son agreed to testify against the gang.

He has been behind prison bars since 1981, when he was convicted in Los Angeles County of murdering a Long Beach-area heroin dealer named Alfredo Armijo, according to media reports. As a result of these convictions, Stinson is already serving life sentences in both California and the federal prison systems.

Back when he was indicted on racketeering charges the first time, Stinson was known as “Youngster” and was in his 40s, court records show. Today, at age 69, his nickname is “Pops,” according to the indictment.

Stinson was moved from Solano State Prison in Vacaville to the Fresno County Jail for a federal detainer, according to court records.

Another new defendant, Andrew “Misfit” Collins, is charged with joining one of the murder plots alongside Stinson.

This indictment comes weeks after a jury in Sacramento convicted three Aryan Brotherhood members of murder conspiracies and other crimes, including smuggling drugs into prison. Much of the evidence was based on a wiretap operation of contraband prison cellphones.

 

[1srelluc]

Nothing new under the sun there.

 

[martybegan]

White supremacist prison gang has been accused seven murders and multiple additional murder conspiracies in Southern California. This includes killing gang member family members testifying against them. Yikes.

MSN

More because of the Prison Gang thing than the WP thing.

How many deaths can be attributed to other Prison Gangs like MS-13?

 

[Crepitus]

More because of the Prison Gang thing than the WP thing.

How many deaths can be attributed to other Prison Gangs like MS-13?

Dude, do you really feel the need to defend these people by deflecting like that?

I mean, seriously?

 

[martybegan]

Dude, do you really feel the need to defend these people by deflecting like that?

I mean, seriously?

I'm pointing out the reality of the situation. all races/ethnic groups have their prison gangs, and they all commit murders and intimidation as part of their way of doing things.

I'm just getting ahead of the "SEE SEE WHITE VIOLENCE IS EVERYWHERE" posts that will be part of this thread.

This is a Prison gang problem, not a race problem.

 

[1srelluc]

Shot Callers (in prison) are an real thing have have been for decades in the older and well established gangs.

The hierarchy does not change just because their leader gets locked up.

Think of the old Mafiosos, they might appoint an interim leader in their absence for day to day operations but major decisions still went through them.

 

[ActionJackson]

White supremacist prison gang has been accused seven murders and multiple additional murder conspiracies in Southern California. This includes killing gang member family members testifying against them. Yikes.

MSN

While the black gangs of Chicago kill seven people every day or two.

 

[martybegan]

Shot Callers (in prison) are an real thing have have been for decades in the older and well established gangs.

The hierarchy does not change just because their leader gets locked up.

Think of the old Mafiosos, they might appoint an interim leader in their absence for day to day operations but major decisions still went through them.

Mafia organized crime is dying because the new generations don't have the stomach for "taking one for the team" the older ones had.

Prison gangs are the new flavor of organized crime, and they have far less scruples about hurting "civilians" than the old Mafioso did.

 

[TNHarley]

Dude, do you really feel the need to defend these people by deflecting like that?

I mean, seriously?

So when you deflect, like you always do, its because you support what you are deflecting from. Thanks.

 

[1srelluc]

Mafia organized crime is dying because the new generations don't have the stomach for "taking one for the team" the older ones had.

Prison gangs are the new flavor of organized crime, and they have far less scruples about hurting "civilians" than the old Mafioso did.

You are correct, I was just using the Mafia as an example more people could relate to. Most don't understand the black and hispanic gang organization.

That said it's AN and the older biker gangs (usually affiliated) whose Shot Callers have a longer reach while in prison.

 

[martybegan]

You are correct, I was just using the Mafia as an example more people could relate to. Most don't understand the black and hispanic gang organization.

That said it's AN and the older biker gangs (usually affiliated) whose Shot Callers have a longer reach while in prison.

The Feds have an answer to that, SuperMax, but it takes a lot to get someone in one of those.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Life sentences don't work.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You are correct, I was just using the Mafia as an example more people could relate to. Most don't understand the black and hispanic gang organization.

That said it's AN and the older biker gangs (usually affiliated) whose Shot Callers have a longer reach while in prison.

Indeed, that is how MS13 was formed.

The extent of it surprised me.

 

[1srelluc]

The Feds have an answer to that, SuperMax, but it takes a lot to get someone in one of those.

Not in Virginia.....All known gang members are sent to one of our two SuperMax prisons no matter the length of their sentence. 23 hours on lockdown....One hour in the dog run for rec.

Gang member....Instant Level 5.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They are killing other gang members. What's to object?

 

[iku]

move on, nothing to see.

 

[martybegan]

They are killing other gang members. What's to object?

They aren't that selective in who they kill. Unlike the Mob in the old days, family, even ones not in "the trade" of not off limits.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They aren't that selective in who they kill. Unlike the Mob in the old days, family, even ones not in "the trade" of not off limits.

Okay. What's to object?

 

[martybegan]

Okay. What's to object?

Overall disregard for the law? Innocent bystanders killed? Innocent family members killed?

 

[theHawk]

White supremacist prison gang has been accused seven murders and multiple additional murder conspiracies in Southern California. This includes killing gang member family members testifying against them. Yikes.

MSN

14?

You’re three times more likely to get killed by lighting.