FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[86DuDE]

Feel that hate seething for those who wish to challenge the power of those who believe they are backed by a plurality of scientific opinion!

 

[DiveCon]

Feel that hate seething for those who wish to challenge the power of those who believe they are backed by a plurality of scientific opinion!

wrong again, dipshit
it isnt hate
its disgust

 

[86DuDE]

Feel that hate seething for those who wish to challenge the power of those who believe they are backed by a plurality of scientific opinion!

wrong again, dipshit
it isnt hate
its disgust

Spoken like a true believer. God forbid those who would challenge the official story right? How dare they!

 

[DiveCon]

Feel that hate seething for those who wish to challenge the power of those who believe they are backed by a plurality of scientific opinion!

wrong again, dipshit
it isnt hate
its disgust

Spoken like a true believer. God forbid those who would challenge the official story right? How dare they!

challenge all you want
but dont bitch when you get the response you get


bw, you can stick your "true believer" BS up your ass

 

[Christophera]

Feel that hate seething for those who wish to challenge the power of those who believe they are backed by a plurality of scientific opinion!

Yup, the perps HOPE the public behaves thus,

with a "peer group" as false shepards.

But no way. We know. FEMA deceived NIST. The Twins had a concrete, tubular, rectangular core of shear wall construction. In fact here is the west wall of the WTC 1 cocnrete core looking south at the broken end where the north wall was already downed.

 

[DiveCon]

Feel that hate seething for those who wish to challenge the power of those who believe they are backed by a plurality of scientific opinion!

Yup, the perps HOPE the public behaves thus,



with a "peer group" as false shepards.

But no way. We know. FEMA deceived NIST. The Twins had a concrete, tubular, rectangular core of shear wall construction. In fact here is the west wall of the WTC 1 cocnrete core looking south at the broken end where the north wall was already downed.

^^^^^^^ case in point of a dipshit that has been shown FACT after FACT and continues to believe his own lies

 

[Christophera]

Hmmmm, you posted no fact.

Here is a fact. This is exactly what the concrete core of WTC 2 concrete core should look like on 9-11.

 

[DiveCon]

Hmmmm, you posted no fact.

Here is a fact. This is exactly what the concrete core of WTC 2 concrete core should look like on 9-11.

you post proof that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about

 

[Fizz]

But no way. We know. FEMA deceived NIST. The Twins had a concrete, tubular, rectangular core of shear wall construction. In fact here is the west wall of the WTC 1 cocnrete core looking south at the broken end where the north wall was already downed.

the picture you show has no concrete core in it, jackass. the spire is not the west wall. its columns rows 700 and 800 of the steel core. the core you claim doesnt even exist yet you show pictures of it.

a pic is worth a thousand words. got any pics of a concrete core?

find any documentation to your claim of "elevator guide rail support" that you pulled out of your ass?
find any documentation to support your claim that the cores were radically different?
find any pictures of the concrete core getting constructed?
find any building plans for a concrete core?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB6xdCS9NJU]YouTube - 9/11: Why They Fell pt 2[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDTEZIdg7g&feature=PlayList&p=A6382FD1025BACE9&index=62]YouTube - WTC 1&2 UNIQUE DESIGN.[/ame]


"For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
New York Timeshere


"Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
Newsweek. Newsweek.com


"Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
Time Magazine.TIME.com


"The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
engineering.comENGINEERING.com


"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered


"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME

 

[Christophera]

But no way. We know. FEMA deceived NIST. The Twins had a concrete, tubular, rectangular core of shear wall construction. In fact here is the west wall of the WTC 1 cocnrete core looking south at the broken end where the north wall was already downed.

the picture you show has no concrete core in it, jackass. the spire is not the west wall.

Not the spire, the mass to the left of it is the end view of a concrete wall.



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[Fizz]

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i hope people actually do check your links because it will showwhat a lying sack of shit you really are. there is nothing wrong with any of the evidence and you claiming there is just shows what a delusional moron you are.

find any pics of a concrete core yet?

 

[Christophera]

The column width and spacing proportions is totally wrong in the above.

Why haven't you posted an image of the supposed steel core columns on 9-11 in the core area yet?

Notice in the lower image that there are NO DIAGONAL BRACES.

Please post an image of the needed diagonal bracing or intersections with columns from ground zero to substantiate your assertion.

 

[Fizz]

The column width and spacing proportions is totally wrong in the above.

where is your proof of your claim it is wrong?

once again, you are simply making shit up.

anybody can look at the available pictures of the WTC and see it is actually the wtc.

Why haven't you posted an image of the supposed steel core columns on 9-11 in the core area yet?

Notice in the lower image that there are NO DIAGONAL BRACES.

Please post an image of the needed diagonal bracing or intersections with columns from ground zero to substantiate your assertion.

who says there needs to be diagonal braces in the core? where is your documentation to back that up?

we show you pictures of the steel core all the time. you even post pictures of the steel core. you are just too fucking stupid to know what they are.

once again, you are simply making shit up.

 

[DiveCon]

The column width and spacing proportions is totally wrong in the above.

Why haven't you posted an image of the supposed steel core columns on 9-11 in the core area yet?

Notice in the lower image that there are NO DIAGONAL BRACES.

Please post an image of the needed diagonal bracing or intersections with columns from ground zero to substantiate your assertion.

hey dipshit
where are the diagonal in YOUR pic?
and i dont see any concrete in that pic either

 

[Fizz]

another NY Times article saying there was no concrete core...

"So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. "

The Buildings - Why Trade Center Towers Stood, Then Fell - NYTimes.com

 

[Christophera]

another NY Times article saying there was no concrete core...

"So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. "

The Buildings - Why Trade Center Towers Stood, Then Fell - NYTimes.com

That article is as confused as any, maybe moreso. Here is some text from it.

So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. But the twin towers and other structures like them were set apart by a design that divided the load between the tightly spaced columns around the outside of the building and a smaller core of heavier beams at the center.


Completely inconsistent with what existed and erroneous in that the steel in the core was elevator guide rail support steel. The steel in the core is much smaller that the box columns surrounding the core.

 

[DiveCon]

again, you show photos of STEEL COLUMNS and claim they are something they are NOT
and not a single hint of rebar, concrete forms or concrete
you are a fucking delusional dipshit

 

[Christophera]

another NY Times article saying there was no concrete core...

"So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. "

The Buildings - Why Trade Center Towers Stood, Then Fell - NYTimes.com

That article is as confused as any, maybe moreso. Here is some text from it.

So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. But the twin towers and other structures like them were set apart by a design that divided the load between the tightly spaced columns around the outside of the building and a smaller core of heavier beams at the center.


Completely inconsistent with what existed and erroneous in that the steel in the core was elevator guide rail support steel. The steel in the core is much smaller that the box columns surrounding the core.

again, you show photos of STEEL COLUMNS and claim they are something they are NOT
and not a single hint of rebar, concrete forms or concrete
you are a fucking delusional dipshit

Not steel core columns. Elevator guide rail support steel, and the photos prove it when showing butt plates.

This is concrete.

 

[DiveCon]

another NY Times article saying there was no concrete core...

"So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. "

The Buildings - Why Trade Center Towers Stood, Then Fell - NYTimes.com

That article is as confused as any, maybe moreso. Here is some text from it.

So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. But the twin towers and other structures like them were set apart by a design that divided the load between the tightly spaced columns around the outside of the building and a smaller core of heavier beams at the center.


Completely inconsistent with what existed and erroneous in that the steel in the core was elevator guide rail support steel. The steel in the core is much smaller that the box columns surrounding the core.

again, you show photos of STEEL COLUMNS and claim they are something they are NOT
and not a single hint of rebar, concrete forms or concrete
you are a fucking delusional dipshit

Not steel core columns. Elevator guide rail support steel, and the photos prove it when showing butt plates.

This is concrete.

no, it isnt concrete, dipshit

 

[Christophera]

That article is as confused as any, maybe moreso. Here is some text from it.

So rather than the combination of concrete and steel structural members common today, he said, the towers would be held up by beams, columns, plates and trusses of pure steel. But the twin towers and other structures like them were set apart by a design that divided the load between the tightly spaced columns around the outside of the building and a smaller core of heavier beams at the center.


Completely inconsistent with what existed and erroneous in that the steel in the core was elevator guide rail support steel. The steel in the core is much smaller that the box columns surrounding the core.

again, you show photos of STEEL COLUMNS and claim they are something they are NOT
and not a single hint of rebar, concrete forms or concrete
you are a fucking delusional dipshit

Not steel core columns. Elevator guide rail support steel, and the photos prove it when showing butt plates.

This is concrete.

no, it isnt concrete, dipshit

No steel core columns are seen. Drywall would never have survived the crash of hundreds of thousands of tons of structural steel, so you are logically wrong.