Florida Grand Jury Report Vindicates 5 Spot-On Covid Claims You Weren’t Allowed To Say, released report on its investigation into Pharma malfeasance

That doesn't mean it wasn't more virulent or more dangerous.
If it were to be easily treated with a course of steroids, it effectively is much less dangerous.

Mortality rates for COVID reflect treatment of COVID (unless you happen to be a right wing weirdo who was told COVID was a hoax and led them to believe that they didn’t actually have it and were fine despite dying in their houses without seeking treatment, which definitely happened).
 
If it were to be easily treated with a course of steroids, it effectively is much less dangerous.

Mortality rates for COVID reflect treatment of COVID (unless you happen to be a right wing weirdo who was told COVID was a hoax and led them to believe that they didn’t actually have it and were fine despite dying in their houses without seeking treatment, which definitely happened).

You lump the hoax people with the people who think the government overreacted. That's a typical SJW government stooge ploy.
 
You lump the hoax people with the people who think the government overreacted. That's a typical SJW government stooge ploy.
The hoax people and you share the believe that COVID was not any more dangerous than influenza, leading to totally unnecessary deaths.

You lump the people thinking masks were a simple and effective way to have some effect on spread with people thinking that masks made someone invincible and could not contract COVID. The difference is that you essentially invented the latter population.

But I guess it's okay when you lump people because you're a snowflake and can do whatever you want without being subject to criticism.
 
What is the implication other then masks can provide protection?

Even small amounts of protection warrants mask use, right?

I mean, how many people have to be saved by masks in order for you to think, "yeah, I guess it's worth it"?


I can't speak to that but I believe those people to be misinformed if they thought masks were pointless...or even "pretty much" pointless but that is subjective I suppose.

To me it is simply common sense. I am just an electrical worker but I know that coughs, sneezes or even throat clears produce droplets of saliva; this is why we cover our mouths or cough into our inside elbows etc, to stop droplets of saliva from being airborne. Do you not cover your mouth when you sneeze?

On top of this common sense makes me believe that the virus can be contained in those drops of saliva.

Lastly it is common sense that even poorly sealed disposable masks will entrap many of these same saliva droplets and in doing so reduces the chance of spreading COVID.

You're worried about 'saving one life' by forcing everyone to wear a mask, yet champion the open border which has cost tens of thousands of American lives. You don't give a damn about life, what you care about is control, you lust to control other people's lives.
 
You're worried about 'saving one life' by forcing everyone to wear a mask, yet champion the open border which has cost tens of thousands of American lives. You don't give a damn about life, what you care about is control, you lust to control other people's lives.

 
You're worried about 'saving one life' by forcing everyone to wear a mask, yet champion the open border which has cost tens of thousands of American lives. You don't give a damn about life, what you care about is control, you lust to control other people's lives.
A sad whataboutism and false equivalence indeed.

Have a good day.
 
If it were to be easily treated with a course of steroids, it effectively is much less dangerous.

Mortality rates for COVID reflect treatment of COVID (unless you happen to be a right wing weirdo who was told COVID was a hoax and led them to believe that they didn’t actually have it and were fine despite dying in their houses without seeking treatment, which definitely happened).
Yeah, about your opinion of what the Conservatives said...

Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.

'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.

“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.

WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
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China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

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Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran

JOHN BINDER 11 Mar 2020 2:58

House and Senate Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States by supporting measures to effectively strip President Trump of his authority to impose travel bans to protect American citizens.

While Trump has implemented travel bans on China and Iran — two of the most coronavirus-affected nations in the world — House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

Dems' Response to Coronavirus: End Trump's Travel Bans on China, Iran

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Nolte: A Mere 8 Days Ago Joe Biden Was Still Attacking Trump’s Travel Bans
JOHN NOLTE 20 Mar 2020

A mere eight days ago, Joe Biden was still vocally opposing President Donald Trump’s travel bans from Europe, and even China, as racist. In other words, if Biden was the president, we can’t begin to imagine how much worse things would look in American today thanks to President Biden’s refusal to keep people out from the very same places where the Chinese coronavirus rages.

https://www.breitbart.com/.../nolte-mere-8-days-ago-joe.../

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Nancy Pelosi visits San Francisco’s Chinatown to encourage people amid fears of coronavirus
by: Charles Clifford
Posted: Feb 24, 2020 / 05:57 PM PST / Updated: Feb 24, 2020 / 05:57 PM PST

SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. (KRON) – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was in San Francisco on Monday spending several hours visiting Chinatown to encourage people to visit the shops and restaurants there amid fears of the coronavirus.

Business in Chinatown has really slowed down over the last month, mainly due to concerns about the coronavirus.

Pelosi did a walking tour of the area starting in the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Shop.

She also visited several other businesses and talked to people.

Neighbors, including the owner of the cookie shop, who says the last month has been difficult.

“Business is slow. People don’t want to come, they are scared,” Kevin Chan said.

Pelosi also took this opportunity to encourage people to come back to Chinatown.

“You should come to Chinatown. Precautions have been taken by our city. We know there is concern about tourism throughout the world but we think it’s very safe to be in Chinatown and hopefully, others will come,” Pelosi said.

Nancy Pelosi visits San Francisco’s Chinatown to encourage people amid fears of coronavirus

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WATCH: NYC Mayor de Blasio Gets Nailed for Telling New Yorkers to Ignore the Wuhan Coronavirus
Beth Baumann
Posted: Mar 29, 2020 1:35 PM

On Sunday, CNN's Jake Tapper put New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) on blast for telling New Yorkers not to worry about the Wuhan coronavirus. Tapper played four separate clips of de Blasio encouraging New Yorkers to go about their daily lives, even as recently as March 13th, less than two weeks ago.

"In retrospect, is that message, at least in part, to blame for how rapidly the virus has spread across the city?" Tapper asked.

De Blasio instantly deflected.

"You know, Jake, we should not be focusing, in my view, on anything looking back, on any level of government right now," the mayor explained. "This is just about how we save lives going forward. We are all working – everybody – is working with the information we had and trying, of course, to avoid panic.


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Published March 18, 2020
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus

The World Health Organization (WHO) is now haunted by a tweet it sent earlier this year when it cited Chinese health officials who claimed there had been no human transmissions of the novel coronavirus within the country yet.

The Jan. 14 tweet came less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic.

"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," the organization had said.

It also relied on information from Chinese health authorities who have been accused of obscuring facts and figures during the course of the outbreak.

WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus

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Nursing homes have ‘no right’ to reject coronavirus patients, Cuomo says
By Bernadette Hogan and Bruce Golding
April 23, 2020 | 5:04pm

New York’s nursing homes weren’t allowed to challenge a controversial order to admit patients with the coronavirus, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday — even though it’s been blamed for spreading the deadly disease among residents

“They don’t have a right to object. That is the rule and that is the regulation and they have to comply with that,” Cuomo said during his daily briefing in Albany.


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New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy
By BERNARD CONDON, MATT SEDENSKY and MEGHAN HOYER August 11, 2020

New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

That statistic could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600. But so far the administration of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has refused to divulge the number, leading to speculation the state is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing better than other states and to make a tragic situation less dire.

“That’s a problem, bro,” state Sen. Gustavo Rivera, a Democrat, told New York Health Commissioner Howard Zucker during a legislative hearing on nursing homes earlier this month. “It seems, sir, that in this case you are choosing to define it differently so that you can look better.”


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The hoax people and you share the believe that COVID was not any more dangerous than influenza, leading to totally unnecessary deaths.

You lump the people thinking masks were a simple and effective way to have some effect on spread with people thinking that masks made someone invincible and could not contract COVID. The difference is that you essentially invented the latter population.

But I guess it's okay when you lump people because you're a snowflake and can do whatever you want without being subject to criticism.

A bad flu, not just any flu. And it wasn't orders of magnitude more lethal, which was the worry at the beginning of the pandemic.

They weren't sold as "some effect", they were sold as do it or else.
 
A bad flu, not just any flu. And it wasn't orders of magnitude more lethal, which was the worry at the beginning of the pandemic.

They weren't sold as "some effect", they were sold as do it or else.
One million dead in this country alone says it was pretty fucking lethal
 
One million dead in this country alone says it was pretty fucking lethal

And how many of those were within 6 months of dying anyway due to their co-morbidities?

Spanish flu hit the healthy and young the most, and thus could claim to be the only cause of them dying from it.

COVID numbers got wrapped up in political bullshit.
 
And how many of those were within 6 months of dying anyway due to their co-morbidities?

Spanish flu hit the healthy and young the most, and thus could claim to be the only cause of them dying from it.

COVID numbers got wrapped up in political bullshit.
Excess death counts say that claim is bullshit
 
Excess death counts say that claim is bullshit

Some of those could also have been caused by deaths DUE to the COVID restrictions, waiting for treatment on things, suicides due to isolation and depression, etc.

Then you could take into account the ones that would be dead in a year or two, again due to their existing conditions, where COVID just sped it up a bit, but not within the same year.

There are of course going to be additional deaths due to a novel respiratory virus, but they added COVID as a cause in many cases where it wasn't exactly the primary cause.
 
Some of those could also have been caused by deaths DUE to the COVID restrictions, waiting for treatment on things, suicides due to isolation and depression, etc.

Then you could take into account the ones that would be dead in a year or two, again due to their existing conditions, where COVID just sped it up a bit, but not within the same year.

There are of course going to be additional deaths due to a novel respiratory virus, but they added COVID as a cause in many cases where it wasn't exactly the primary cause.
You’d have to go a long way to come up with one million excess deaths (or more) due to suicide or whatever
 
One million dead in this country alone says it was pretty fucking lethal
You left out the part that the masks, shutdowns, and school closings did nothing, and caused more harm than good.
 
A bad flu, not just any flu. And it wasn't orders of magnitude more lethal, which was the worry at the beginning of the pandemic.

They weren't sold as "some effect", they were sold as do it or else.
Which flu was it as bad as?
 
You’d have to go a long way to come up with one million excess deaths (or more) due to suicide or whatever

There were definitely excess deaths due to COVID, the issue is how many were more due to the comorbidities than COVID itself.
 
The Spanish flu for one.

The 57/58 flu was another.
“It’s no worse than Spanish flu” really doesn’t help your argument. Like at all. That’s the dumbest thing anyone could say.

COVID was substantially worse than influenza in 1957. Maybe not 10x worse but probably 5x worse.
 
“It’s no worse than Spanish flu” really doesn’t help your argument. Like at all. That’s the dumbest thing anyone could say.

COVID was substantially worse than influenza in 1957. Maybe not 10x worse but probably 5x worse.

The Spanish flu was worse.

If you look at Wikipedia the high estimate for the 1959 and the low estimate for covid are pretty close, 4M vs 7M.
 

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