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Not modern enough to compare the mortality of Spanish Flu to the mortality of COVID.
Or did you just try to forget the entire purpose of the argument?
Yeah, it would run rampant. Once it's rampant, there's basically nothing you can do to actually isolate those at high risk.
I didn't bring up Spanish Flu, you did.Still modern medicine.
You are the one who had a snit about the Spanish flu being during modern times/medicine.
I'm right, you are wrong.
And maybe our economy wouldn't have gone in the shitter, our children wouldn't have lost over a year of education, and people would not have learned to distrust their lying elites.
actually that last thing is a good thing, showing the elites to be liars and bullshitters.
Once again. This was settled two years ago. What purpose is there in rehashing the same lies we were told?Your meme is simply a conveyer of disinformation and evidently you fell for it...or you are purveyor.
Did you not know that the virus resides in saliva droplets?
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I didn't bring up Spanish Flu, you did.
If you are right, why can't you provide a coherent logical argument against what I've said?
If you want to make an argument that the economic costs of COVID shutdowns were not worth it, be my guest. But you can't argue that it wouldn't have cost more lives. You want to trade lives for money. That's a defensible position. You're just too big of a pussy to make it.
They were sold to be worn incorrectly?Do they stop enough when not properly used to make it right to make people think they are unbreakable protection?
Because that's how they were sold, and that's the real issue.
Once again. This was settled two years ago. What purpose is there in rehashing the same lies we were told?
Dr. Fauci Masks don’t work.
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Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19
The top medical experts in the world can’t decide if masks are helpful in reducing the spread of COVID-19 or just make things worse.
Thursday, August 6, 2020
Denmark boasts one of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world. As of August 4, the Danes have suffered 616 COVID-19 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.
That’s less than one-third of the number of Danes who die from pneumonia or influenza in a given year.
Despite this success, Danish leaders recently found themselves on the defensive. The reason is that Danes aren’t wearing face masks, and local authorities for the most part aren’t even recommending them.
Europe's Top Health Officials Say Masks Aren't Helpful in Beating COVID-19 | Jon Miltimore
Public health officials in Denmark, Holland, and beyond say they have no intention of recommending face coverings, saying the science does not support it. “Face masks in public places are not necessary, based on all the current evidence,” said Coen Berends, spokesman for the National Institute...fee.org
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CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson
A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.
A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.
CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
Over 70 percent of the case-patients who were contaminated with the virus fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.
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Difference between a virus and bacteria
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Zooming In: Visualizing the Relative Size of Particles
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1/25/2021 Masking the Science
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In truth, we wish masks worked. If they did, it would be a cheap, and easy way to control the spread of Covid. The idea that they protect not only their wearer but also those people around them seems noble. We wished masks worked because citizens are spending billions of dollars on them.
We wish masks worked because most Americans wear them now. Telling them it was unnecessary will not make them happy. We wish masks worked because they have become a symbol of virtue and social responsibility. Anyone who doubts their utility is personally attacked; as though they don’t believe the viral pandemic is real, or don’t care about those who die from it.
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Flip-flop Fauci reverses—again—on double-mask-wearing
Whatever Dr. Anthony Fauci says today may be different from what he says tomorrow, but he might come back to what he said yesterday in a day or two if he feels like it.
by Carl Durrek February 1, 2021 in Healthcare
If there’s one thing that’s certain about the coronavirus, it’s that Dr. Anthony Fauci reserves the right to change whatever he’s said in the past to fit whatever narrative he needs to push forward in the present. His reversals have become so common that it’s almost impossible to keep up with his current agenda at any given moment.
Flip-flop Fauci reverses—again—on double-mask-wearing
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Many Studies Find That Cloth Masks Do Not Stop Viruses Like COVID
By Lisa Mair
NOVEMBER 23, 2020
A thorough marketing campaign for the use of low-quality masks has convinced millions of people that masks will reduce COVID-19 spread, but do they really?
Much Recent Pro-Mask Research Is Deeply Flawed
The only statistically significant data on preventing viral spread is for N95 masks worn indoors when one can’t socially distance, which is not the type of mask required nor typically worn by the general public.
Many Studies Find That Cloth Masks Do Not Stop Viruses Like COVID
A thorough marketing campaign for the use of masks has convinced millions of people that masks will reduce COVID-19 spread, but do they really?
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CDC Claims Mask Mandates Don’t Have Statistically Improved Impact on Spread of COVID Than No Masks At All – Will Therefore Continue Pushing Masks
By Joe Hoft
Published March 7, 2021 at 8:15am
The CDC recommends wearing masks after their study showed that related to COVID, the results of wearing masks were statistically the same as the results when not wearing masks.
CDC Claims Mask Mandates Don't Have Statistically Improved Impact on Spread of COVID Than No Masks At All - Will Therefore Continue Pushing Masks
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Do Masks Work?
A review of the evidence
Jeffrey H. Anderson
August 11, 2021
“Seriously people—STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted then–surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.”
Do Masks Work?
“Seriously people—STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted then–surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” Two days later, Adams said, “Folks who don’t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces...
They were sold to be worn incorrectly?
Huh?
Posting the same Gish Gallup instead of answering the question posed is not a good look.
It screams propaganda.
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I don't think so. That was then President Trump's plan to slow the spread.Kind of like "2 weeks to stop the spread"?
I don't think so. That was then President Trump's plan to slow the spread.
That wasn't propaganda.
Why would you think so?
There are far too many differences in the world to say that COVID was at all comparable to 1918.And you dismissed it, because you forgot about it when you claimed this was the first modern global pandemic.
I can argue that we lost lives for reasons OF the shutdowns, including delayed treatments of other issues, suicides, and others, before even going into potential deaths FROM the vaccines. So COVID deaths count more?
I guess Trump lied then.That was every Dem governor's plan as well.
Because it lasted far more than 2 weeks?
It has already been demonstrated that they weren't being framed as a cure all as you claimed with CDC guidance from 2020 pointing out masks were imperfect and the various flaws with cloth masks. Doubling down on the misinformation you were caught spread doesn't change things here.All the force is going down the memory hole, because you idiots knew all along masks weren't the cure all being foisted on people.
There are far too many differences in the world to say that COVID was at all comparable to 1918.
Not even from a medical perspective but consider the relative degrees of world travel between then and now.
I guess Trump lied then.
Take it up with him.
It has already been demonstrated that they weren't being framed as a cure all as you claimed with CDC guidance from 2020 pointing out masks were imperfect and the various flaws with cloth masks. Doubling down on the misinformation you were caught spread doesn't change things here.
What do you mean "you idiots" how do you know what I knew or what my opinion on the effectiveness of masks is or was? You're adding attacking strawmen you built to previous lies about masking guidance.
Untreated? Sure, probably.1918-1919 was worse. The Spanish flu was actually more deadly to healthy people.
During that time people were returning from fighting in the world war, the travel was slower, but still high in volume,
Untreated? Sure, probably.
But we have no idea how Spanish Flu would have responded to modern medicine.
