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[Lesh]

There were definitely excess deaths due to COVID, the issue is how many were more due to the comorbidities than COVID itself.

Comorbidities would not have been excess deaths

 

[martybegan]

Comorbidities would not have been excess deaths

If they resulted in death in one year that might have happened in another year they would.

Excess deaths isn't an exact number, it's an extrapolated number, and those as we know from the AGW debate can be manipulated to suit whoever wants a certain result.

 

[Lesh]

The Spanish flu was worse.

If you look at Wikipedia the high estimate for the 1959 and the low estimate for covid are pretty close, 4M vs 7M.

That’s like saying syphillus is worse than gonorhea.
Who cares..

 

[martybegan]

That’s like saying syphillus is worse than gonorhea.
Who cares..

It's applicable to my debate with Marener, read the previous posts before being a drive by dimwit.

 

[Fueri]

You keeping stating this but still haven't provided an example how this false security manifested?

What exactly was claimed about wearing masks from applicable agencies that gave people a false sense of security?

We were told by the Director of the CDC that masks reduced the chance of infection by "more than 80%"

Utter nonsense.

 

[Lesh]

It's applicable to my debate with Marener, read the previous posts before being a drive by dimwit.

If you’re having a private convo get a room

 

[Marener]

The Spanish flu was worse.

If you look at Wikipedia the high estimate for the 1959 and the low estimate for covid are pretty close, 4M vs 7M.

Deaths from 1957 influenza was 1 million with 100,000 in the US.

1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.

archive.cdc.gov

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

“This is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public” | Revive Yourself With Ryan Martin

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[scruffy]

Florida?
Home of Rhonda's "let 'em die for money" regime?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It is as I said.

Leftards have completely lost the ability to discern.

 

[martybegan]

If you’re having a private convo get a room

If you want to jump in on another debate read up on it before spewing your crap.

 

[martybegan]

Deaths from 1957 influenza was 1 million with 100,000 in the US.

1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.

archive.cdc.gov

Estimate was 1-4 M, with 1 being the low#.

Hell the COVID number ranges from 7-21M and that just happened recently.

 

[Marener]

Estimate was 1-4 M, with 1 being the low#.

Hell the COVID number ranges from 7-21M and that just happened recently.

No. The estimate is 1.1 million with a 95% confidence interval of 0.7 to 1.5 million.
But since you’re a total fucking hack, you’re going to ignore data driven science and just whatever number you wanted to believe.

Global Mortality Impact of the 1957-1959 Influenza Pandemic - PubMed

The global mortality rate of the 1957-1959 influenza pandemic was moderate relative to that of the 1918 pandemic but was approximately 10-fold greater than that of the 2009 pandemic. The impact of the pandemic on mortality was delayed in several countries, pointing to a window of opportunity for...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Catsnmeters]

We were told by the Director of the CDC that masks reduced the chance of infection by "more than 80%"

Utter nonsense.

Link.

 

[OldFlame]

I made my toddler wear a hat to school today. I suppose that was also draconian to you.

Well that explains a lot, here we have either a late millennial or a gen z, who are afraid of their own shadow, and will cut their nose off to spite their face if means 'safety', or they think it means 'safety'.

You are welcome to wear a face diaper anywhere and everywhere if you want to, you are not welcome to force others to do so. So take your authoritarian, 'it's good for you', or 'if it saves just one life' bullshit and shove it up your ass.

Are you going to appeal to emotion to have all vehicles removed off of the roads as well, just imagine how many lives that would save!! Hop to it, get your campaign going, if you don't you're nothing but a worthless piece of shit that doesn't care about people.

This applies to the cat freak as well.

 

[martybegan]

No. The estimate is 1.1 million with a 95% confidence interval of 0.7 to 1.5 million.
But since you’re a total fucking hack, you’re going to ignore data driven science and just whatever number you wanted to believe.

Global Mortality Impact of the 1957-1959 Influenza Pandemic - PubMed

The global mortality rate of the 1957-1959 influenza pandemic was moderate relative to that of the 1918 pandemic but was approximately 10-fold greater than that of the 2009 pandemic. The impact of the pandemic on mortality was delayed in several countries, pointing to a window of opportunity for...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

One source, Wikipedia lists several, and that's where they got the range.

Most estimates of excessive deaths due to the pandemic range from 1-4 million, some of which include years beyond 1958.[1][2][5][6][7][24][154] In particular, the attempt by the National Institutes of Health in 2016 attributed global mortality 1.1 million (0.7 to 1.5 million) excess deaths to the pandemic, including the year 1959.[5] This estimate of global burden has recently been adopted by the World Health Organization and US CDC.[6][154][155][156] The study also estimated the excess deaths in the first year of the pandemic, in 1957, to be 0.6 million (0.4 to 0.8 million).[5]

1957–1958 influenza pandemic - Wikipedia

Like a hack, you cherrypicked the one source that agreed with you.

 

[Marener]

Well that explains a lot, here we have either a late millennial or a gen z, who are afraid of their own shadow, and will cut their nose off to spite their face if means 'safety', or they think it means 'safety'.

You are welcome to wear a face diaper anywhere and everywhere if you want to, you are not welcome to force others to do so. So take your authoritarian, 'it's good for you', or 'if it saves just one life' bullshit and shove it up your ass.

Are you going to appeal to emotion to have all vehicles removed off of the roads as well, just imagine how many lives that would save!! Hop to it, get your campaign going, if you don't you're nothing but a worthless piece of shit that doesn't care about people.

This applies to the cat freak as well.

Wrong, I'm welcome to require anyone to wear a face mask if they wish to be present on my property.

You can either behave like a normal adult or you can behave like an entitled narcissistic asshole.

 

[Marener]

One source, Wikipedia lists several, and that's where they got the range.



1957–1958 influenza pandemic - Wikipedia

Like a hack, you cherrypicked the one source that agreed with you.

I picked a recent rigorous scientific study with a result that is widely accepted by scientific agencies.

Where did the 1-4 million estimate come from?

Encyclopedia Brittanica?

There's a thing called source discrimination. You can't do it because you're a fucking hack.

 

[Fueri]

martybegan

Link.

Video. Even better.

 

[scruffy]

No. The estimate is 1.1 million with a 95% confidence interval of 0.7 to 1.5 million.
But since you’re a total fucking hack, you’re going to ignore data driven science and just whatever number you wanted to believe.

Global Mortality Impact of the 1957-1959 Influenza Pandemic - PubMed

The global mortality rate of the 1957-1959 influenza pandemic was moderate relative to that of the 1918 pandemic but was approximately 10-fold greater than that of the 2009 pandemic. The impact of the pandemic on mortality was delayed in several countries, pointing to a window of opportunity for...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

BFD.

Not even a decent flu.

 

[martybegan]

I picked a recent rigorous scientific study with a result that is widely accepted by scientific agencies.

Where did the 1-4 million estimate come from?

Encyclopedia Brittanica?

There's a thing called source discrimination. You can't do it because you're a fucking hack.

You searched for the one study that backed up your claim, and didn't realize there were others out there.

Hack.