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Florida has more gun homicides

Waiting for a link to one good study that doesn't involve Lott.


You have 10 asswipe. And Lott is the expert....which is why you don't want to use his work.....nice try though......if you want actual research into concealed carry and other gun issues, John Lott has done the work......and even after decades of anti gunner hate, he is still the go to guy for research.
 
And thanks to asswipes like you....Chicago citizens are dying...

Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale



CHICAGO — Police officers are making drastically fewer investigative stops and confiscating fewer guns as murders and shootings have increased so far this year, DNAinfo Chicago has learned.

So far this year, the number of so-called investigative stop reports — formerly known as “contact cards” — has decreased by about 80 percent compared to the same time period last year, police sources told DNAinfo Chicago.

There also been a 37 percent decline in gun arrests and a 35 percent decrease in gun confiscations compared to last year, according to police data.

Meanwhile, there have been 72 more shootings (a 218 percent increase) and 10 more murders (a 125 percent spike) than during the same time period last year, according to police data.
 
And how concealed carry effects the crime rate....

Report: Number Of Concealed Carry Permits Surges As Violent Crime Rate Drops

The “Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States” report from the Crime Prevention Research Center released Wednesday analyzed parallels between a 22 percent drop in the overall violent crime rate in the same time period in which the percentage of the adult population with concealed carry permits soared by 130 percent.

The report finds that 11.1 million Americans now have permits to carry concealed weapons, which are up from 4.5 million in 2007. This 146 percent increase parallels a nearly one-quarter (22 percent) drop in both murder and violent crime rates during the same time period.

Regarding right-to-carry laws as a form of deterrence to violent crime, the study authors note that the large majority of peer-reviewed academic studies conclude that permitted concealed handguns reduce violent crime. Those debates center around those who claim concealed handgun permits reduce crime and those who say it has no effect. The CPRC report focuses on states that allow right-to-carry permits and states that don’t require permits for concealed weapons rather than just the amount of permits.

Additionally, the report notes that the number of concealed carry permit holders “is likely much higher than 11.1 million,” because numbers are not available for all statues that issue permits, such as New York. And four states and the vast majority of Montana don’t require residents to have a

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Although cautioning that nationwide “simple cross-sectional comparisons” can present misleading data, the report used new state -level permit data from 2007 on to determine that for each one percentage point increase in the percent of the U.S. adult population holding permits is roughly paralleled with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate.

Even Kleck says lotts work is shit.


Blow that lie out your ass moron.

Lie? Yeah sounds like he is a real fan:
Lott’s version of economic theory is one that has been dead for decades, superceded by behavioral economics. This version of economics states that increases in the cost of a behavior, such as criminal behavior, does not have a simple easily predicted effect on that behavior, and that it is perceived costs that affect behavior, not necessarily actual costs.

One of Lott’s many errors is to blindly assume that higher actual costs of crime invariably result in higher perceived costs of crime—something we know is not true (Kleck et al., Criminology (2005) vol. 43, no. 3). Lott has never presented a single scrap of evidence that criminals’ perceived risks of confronting armed victims increased after right-to-carry laws were enacted—he simply assumed that it had happened.
 
Waiting for a link to one good study that doesn't involve Lott.


You have 10 asswipe. And Lott is the expert....which is why you don't want to use his work.....nice try though......if you want actual research into concealed carry and other gun issues, John Lott has done the work......and even after decades of anti gunner hate, he is still the go to guy for research.

Not sorting through ten. Give me the best one.
 
And more on what brain and his buddies have done to Chicago police....

Chicago police boss calls weekend gun violence 'completely unacceptable'

At an unrelated news conference Monday on the city's Southwest Side, Johnson brought up the Mother's Day weekend violence himself in his prepared remarks. He focused his remarks on how much of the bloodshed is being driven by about 1,300 individuals on the Police Department's "strategic subject list" — those believed to be most prone to violence as a victim or offender.

About 78 percent of the homicide victims and about 84 percent of the nonfatal shooting victims this weekend were on the list, he said.

"That means essentially we know who they are," he told reporters at 50th Street and South Karlov Avenue, where a Chicago police officer fatally shot a bank robbery suspect on Monday. "Oftentimes, they have gang affiliations, and many have had previous arrests and convictions."
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He then ticked off nearly 10 examples of how many arrests these victims had on their records, ranging from 20 each all the way up to 41.
 
Waiting for a link to one good study that doesn't involve Lott.


You have 10 asswipe. And Lott is the expert....which is why you don't want to use his work.....nice try though......if you want actual research into concealed carry and other gun issues, John Lott has done the work......and even after decades of anti gunner hate, he is still the go to guy for research.

Not sorting through ten. Give me the best one.


yeah....right....asswipe...
 
Waiting for a link to one good study that doesn't involve Lott.


You have 10 asswipe. And Lott is the expert....which is why you don't want to use his work.....nice try though......if you want actual research into concealed carry and other gun issues, John Lott has done the work......and even after decades of anti gunner hate, he is still the go to guy for research.

Not sorting through ten. Give me the best one.


yeah....right....asswipe...

Link to the best one. Should be easy, why are you scared?
 
And more on what brain and his buddies have done to Chicago police....

Chicago police boss calls weekend gun violence 'completely unacceptable'

At an unrelated news conference Monday on the city's Southwest Side, Johnson brought up the Mother's Day weekend violence himself in his prepared remarks. He focused his remarks on how much of the bloodshed is being driven by about 1,300 individuals on the Police Department's "strategic subject list" — those believed to be most prone to violence as a victim or offender.

About 78 percent of the homicide victims and about 84 percent of the nonfatal shooting victims this weekend were on the list, he said.

"That means essentially we know who they are," he told reporters at 50th Street and South Karlov Avenue, where a Chicago police officer fatally shot a bank robbery suspect on Monday. "Oftentimes, they have gang affiliations, and many have had previous arrests and convictions."
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He then ticked off nearly 10 examples of how many arrests these victims had on their records, ranging from 20 each all the way up to 41.

I'm very pro policing, not sure what you are talking about.
 
And a summary of the work done on concealed carry laws....

Do Right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime? - Crime Prevention Research Center



A 2012 survey of the literature is available here. Some of the research showing that concealed carry laws reduce violent crime is listed here.

Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns, John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, Journal of Legal Studies, 1997

The Effect of Concealed Weapons Laws: An Extreme Bound Analysis by William Alan Bartley and Mark A Cohen, published in Economic Inquiry, April 1998 (Copy available here)

The Concealed‐Handgun Debate, John R. Lott, Jr., Journal of Legal Studies, January 1998

Criminal Deterrence, Geographic Spillovers, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by Stephen Bronars and John R. Lott, Jr., American Economic Review, May 1998

The Impact of Gun Laws on Police Deaths by David Mustard, published in the Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Privately Produced General Deterrence By BRUCE L. BENSON AND BRENT D. MAST, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Does the Right to Carry Concealed Handguns Deter Countable Crimes? Only a Count Analysis Can Say By FLORENZ PLASSMANN AND T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness By CARLISLE E. MOODY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapon Laws and Homicide in Large U.S. Counties: The Effect on Weapon Types, Victim Characteristics, and Victim-Offender Relationships By DAVID E. OLSON AND MICHAEL D. MALTZ, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

The Impact of Banning Juvenile Gun Possession By Thomas B. Marvell, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime By JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AND JOHN E. WHITLEY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Confirming More Guns, Less Crime by Florenz Plassmann and John Whitley, published in the Stanford Law Review, 2003

Measurement Error in County-Level UCR Data by John R. Lott, Jr. and John Whitley, published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, June 2003, Volume 19, Issue 2, pp 185-198

Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” by Eric Helland and Alexander Tabarrok, published in Advances in Economic Analysis and Policy, 4 (1): Article 1, 2004

Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement By John R. Lott, Jr. and William Landes, published in The Bias Against Guns

More Readers of Gun Magazines, But Not More Crimes by Florenz Plassmann and John R. Lott, Jr.

“More Guns, Less Crime” by John R Lott, Jr. (University of Chicago Press, 2010, 3rd edition).

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody, Thomas B. Marvell, Paul R Zimmerman, and Fasil Alemante published in Review of Economics & Finance, 2014

“An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” by Mark Giusa published in Applied Economics Letters, Volume 21, Issue 4, 2014

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, volume 5, number 3, September 2008 It is also available here..

“The Debate on Shall Issue Laws, Continued” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 6, Number 2 May 2009

“Did John Lott Provide Bad Data to the NRC? A Note on Aneja, Donohue, and Zhang” by Carlisle e. Moody, John R Lott, Jr, and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 10, Number 1, January 2013

“On the Choice of Control Variables in the Crime Equation” by Carlisle E. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, Oxford Bulletin of Economics and Statistics, Volume 72, Issue 5, pages 696–715, October 2010.

More Guns, Less Crime: A Response to Ayres and Donohue’s 1999 book review in the American Law and Economics Review by John R. Lott, Jr.

Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime Revisited: Clustering, Measurement Error, and State-by-State Break downs by John R. Lott, Jr.


14....not by John Lott........and of course Dr. John Lott is the expert in the field...which is why brain hates him......he showed that concealed carry lowers the crime rate as the number of people with permits goes up.......and changed the argument on gun control for ever.......

The first link I look at appears to not be a study on concealed carry at all:
On the Choice of Control Variables in the Crime Equation” by Carlisle E. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell

Abstract
Although control variables are the reason for multiple regression, surprising little attention
is given to the process of locating and selecting the controls. If important controls are
omitted, estimates can be biased and inconsistent whereas using too many controls can
reduce efficiency and mask effects. We advocate a much broader search for controls than
is customary, at least in the crime literature, and then the use of the general-to-specific
methodology to select the relevant controls. We illustrate this procedure using a fixed
effects panel data design evaluating the effect of legalized abortion on crime.

No wonder you can't link one good study that doesn't involve lott that agrees with you. Like your other lists, this one is a joke.
 
Another study:

More Guns, More Crime


Mark Duggan

University of Chicago and National Bureau of Economic Research


Carrying concealed weapons legislation could plausibly have affected


the crime rate through two channels. Using the magazine sales data, I

find no evidence to suggest that CCW laws caused a reduction in the

violent crime rate through either of these two pathways. Consistent with

this, robustness checks of the Lott-Mustard findings cast considerable

doubt on the hypothesis that CCW legislation had any effect on crime

rates.

https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/dranove/htm/dranove/coursepages/Mgmt 469/guns.pdf
 
Another study:

More Guns, More Crime


Mark Duggan

University of Chicago and National Bureau of Economic Research


Carrying concealed weapons legislation could plausibly have affected


the crime rate through two channels. Using the magazine sales data, I

find no evidence to suggest that CCW laws caused a reduction in the

violent crime rate through either of these two pathways. Consistent with

this, robustness checks of the Lott-Mustard findings cast considerable

doubt on the hypothesis that CCW legislation had any effect on crime

rates.

https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/dranove/htm/dranove/coursepages/Mgmt 469/guns.pdf
2016 Real Time Death Statistics in America
 
I like this one.......the most recent and by Dr. Lott, the expert in this field.....

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

Unfortunately, it is often too difficult to account for them. A much better approach is to study how crime rates vary before and after changes in permit rules have occurred.

The current analysis doesn’t provide the sophisticated estimates provided with earlier analyses simply because the necessary data won’t be available for a couple years.

Thus, it should only be viewed as suggestive. Between 2007 and the preliminary estimates for 2013, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.4 per 100,000 – a 22 percent drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 130 percent.

Overall violent crime also fell by the same percentage, 22 percent, over that period of time.

Using this new state level permit data from 2007 on, our analysis suggests that each one percentage point increase in the percent of the adult population holding permits is roughly associated with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate.7
 
I like this one.......the most recent and by Dr. Lott, the expert in this field.....

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

Unfortunately, it is often too difficult to account for them. A much better approach is to study how crime rates vary before and after changes in permit rules have occurred.

The current analysis doesn’t provide the sophisticated estimates provided with earlier analyses simply because the necessary data won’t be available for a couple years.

Thus, it should only be viewed as suggestive. Between 2007 and the preliminary estimates for 2013, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.4 per 100,000 – a 22 percent drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 130 percent.

Overall violent crime also fell by the same percentage, 22 percent, over that period of time.

Using this new state level permit data from 2007 on, our analysis suggests that each one percentage point increase in the percent of the adult population holding permits is roughly associated with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate.7

Of course disgraced economist Lott. Why do you bother? No academic takes him seriously.
 
This is a good one too......
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/tideman.pdf

DOES THE RIGHT TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS DETER COUNTABLE CRIMES? ONLY A COUNT ANALYSIS CAN SAY*

FLORENZ PLASSMANN State University of New York at Binghamton and T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Abstract

An analysis of the effects of right-to-carry laws on crime requires particular distributional and structural considerations.

First, because of the count nature of crime data and the low number of expected instances per observation in the most appropriate data, least-squares methods yield unreliable estimates.

Second, use of a single dummy variable as a measure of the nationwide effect of right-to-carry laws is likely to introduce geographical and intertemporal aggregation biases into the analysis.

In this paper, we use a generalized Poisson process to examine the geographical and dynamic effects of right-to-carry laws on reported homicides, rapes, and robberies.

We find that the effects of such laws vary across crime categories, U.S. states, and time and that such laws appear to have statistically significant deterrent effects on the numbers of reported murders, rapes, and robberies.
 
I like this one.......the most recent and by Dr. Lott, the expert in this field.....

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

Unfortunately, it is often too difficult to account for them. A much better approach is to study how crime rates vary before and after changes in permit rules have occurred.

The current analysis doesn’t provide the sophisticated estimates provided with earlier analyses simply because the necessary data won’t be available for a couple years.

Thus, it should only be viewed as suggestive. Between 2007 and the preliminary estimates for 2013, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.4 per 100,000 – a 22 percent drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 130 percent.

Overall violent crime also fell by the same percentage, 22 percent, over that period of time.

Using this new state level permit data from 2007 on, our analysis suggests that each one percentage point increase in the percent of the adult population holding permits is roughly associated with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate.7

Of course disgraced economist Lott. Why do you bother? No academic takes him seriously.


anti gunners calling him disgraced because he shows you how stupid you are, not a way to discredit someone...moron.
 
This one is also nice.......it takes on Lott and Mustard and tries to show if they were wrong in their original look at the issue of concealed carry....


http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/323313

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness*


Carlisle E. Moody
College of William and Mary
  • In 1997, John Lott and David Mustard published an important paper in which they found that right‐to‐carry concealed weapons laws reduce violent crime.
  • Although Lott and Mustard appear to do all possible variations of the analysis, a closer reading reveals that the study might suffer from several possibly important errors.
  • I reestimate the model and check for incorrect functional form, omitted variables, and possible second‐order bias in the t‐ratios.
  • Lott and Mustard's basic conclusions are generally robust with respect to these potential econometric problems.
  • Overall, right‐to‐carry concealed weapons laws tend to reduce violent crime.
  • The effect on property crime is more uncertain.
  • I find evidence that these laws also reduce burglary.
Brain......you can pay 10.00 to read the study....
 
This is a good one too......
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/tideman.pdf

DOES THE RIGHT TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS DETER COUNTABLE CRIMES? ONLY A COUNT ANALYSIS CAN SAY*

FLORENZ PLASSMANN State University of New York at Binghamton and T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Abstract

An analysis of the effects of right-to-carry laws on crime requires particular distributional and structural considerations.

First, because of the count nature of crime data and the low number of expected instances per observation in the most appropriate data, least-squares methods yield unreliable estimates.

Second, use of a single dummy variable as a measure of the nationwide effect of right-to-carry laws is likely to introduce geographical and intertemporal aggregation biases into the analysis.

In this paper, we use a generalized Poisson process to examine the geographical and dynamic effects of right-to-carry laws on reported homicides, rapes, and robberies.

We find that the effects of such laws vary across crime categories, U.S. states, and time and that such laws appear to have statistically significant deterrent effects on the numbers of reported murders, rapes, and robberies.

On the one hand, this indicates that right-to-carry laws do not always have the deterrent effects on crime that are envisaged by legislators and that the adoption of such laws is not without risk. On the other hand, our analysis suggests that it would be imprudent to make it generally more difficult for law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns as long as there exist large numbers of weapons that can and will be used by criminals to commit crimes, because right-to-carry laws do help on average to reduce the number of these crimes.
 
I like this one.......the most recent and by Dr. Lott, the expert in this field.....

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

Unfortunately, it is often too difficult to account for them. A much better approach is to study how crime rates vary before and after changes in permit rules have occurred.

The current analysis doesn’t provide the sophisticated estimates provided with earlier analyses simply because the necessary data won’t be available for a couple years.

Thus, it should only be viewed as suggestive. Between 2007 and the preliminary estimates for 2013, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.4 per 100,000 – a 22 percent drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 130 percent.

Overall violent crime also fell by the same percentage, 22 percent, over that period of time.

Using this new state level permit data from 2007 on, our analysis suggests that each one percentage point increase in the percent of the adult population holding permits is roughly associated with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate.7

Of course disgraced economist Lott. Why do you bother? No academic takes him seriously.


anti gunners calling him disgraced because he shows you how stupid you are, not a way to discredit someone...moron.

Like I said, no academic takes him seriously.
 
I like this one.......the most recent and by Dr. Lott, the expert in this field.....

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...y-Permit-Holders-Across-the-United-States.pdf

Unfortunately, it is often too difficult to account for them. A much better approach is to study how crime rates vary before and after changes in permit rules have occurred.

The current analysis doesn’t provide the sophisticated estimates provided with earlier analyses simply because the necessary data won’t be available for a couple years.

Thus, it should only be viewed as suggestive. Between 2007 and the preliminary estimates for 2013, murder rates have fallen from 5.6 to 4.4 per 100,000 – a 22 percent drop in the murder rate at the same time that the percentage of the adult population with permits soared by 130 percent.

Overall violent crime also fell by the same percentage, 22 percent, over that period of time.

Using this new state level permit data from 2007 on, our analysis suggests that each one percentage point increase in the percent of the adult population holding permits is roughly associated with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate.7

Of course disgraced economist Lott. Why do you bother? No academic takes him seriously.


wrong....anti gunners try to pretend that he is wrong because he destroyed their entire belief system.....and changed the gun control debate for all time.........they despise the man for that and they will never forgive him....they were well on their way to banning everything....and if it wasn't for him and those darn kids they would have gotten away with it.........
 
This is a good one too......
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/tideman.pdf

DOES THE RIGHT TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS DETER COUNTABLE CRIMES? ONLY A COUNT ANALYSIS CAN SAY*

FLORENZ PLASSMANN State University of New York at Binghamton and T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Abstract

An analysis of the effects of right-to-carry laws on crime requires particular distributional and structural considerations.

First, because of the count nature of crime data and the low number of expected instances per observation in the most appropriate data, least-squares methods yield unreliable estimates.

Second, use of a single dummy variable as a measure of the nationwide effect of right-to-carry laws is likely to introduce geographical and intertemporal aggregation biases into the analysis.

In this paper, we use a generalized Poisson process to examine the geographical and dynamic effects of right-to-carry laws on reported homicides, rapes, and robberies.

We find that the effects of such laws vary across crime categories, U.S. states, and time and that such laws appear to have statistically significant deterrent effects on the numbers of reported murders, rapes, and robberies.

On the one hand, this indicates that right-to-carry laws do not always have the deterrent effects on crime that are envisaged by legislators and that the adoption of such laws is not without risk. On the other hand, our analysis suggests that it would be imprudent to make it generally more difficult for law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns as long as there exist large numbers of weapons that can and will be used by criminals to commit crimes, because right-to-carry laws do help on average to reduce the number of these crimes.

On the other hand, our analysis suggests that it would be imprudent to make it generally more difficult for law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns as long as there exist large numbers of weapons that can and will be used by criminals to commit crimes, because right-to-carry laws do help on average to reduce the number of these crimes.[
 

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