Flynn under fire just for negotiating with the Russians against the law

[Snouter]

So troubling that COMMUNICATION is now a dirty word for neocon, warmongering Democrats, and their qu33r establishment.

 

[oreo]

Man, can't a guy do anything anymore?

National Security Adviser Michael Flynn reportedly discussed Russian sanctions with Moscow’s ambassador

Sheesh, why can't a guy break the law? Maybe he didn't mean to?

You don't negotiate with Russians PRIOR to being in office--LOL

The situation around embattled national security adviser Michael Flynn remained "fluid" Monday night -- right up until his resignation.

His departure came just after reports surfaced the Justice Department warned the Trump administration last month that Flynn misled administration officials regarding his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States and was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.

"I inadvertently briefed the Vice President-elect and others with incomplete information regarding my phone calls with the Russian ambassador. I have sincerely apologized to the President and the Vice President, and they have accepted my apology," Flynn wrote according to a copy of his resignation letter obtained by CNN.

The Justice Department concern was raised after Flynn claimed he did not discuss with the Russian ambassador the sanctions being imposed by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russia's interference in the election. Flynn was not yet in government.

The message was delivered by then-Acting Attorney General Sally Yates. Other top intelligence officials, including James Clapper and John Brennan, were in agreement the White House should be alerted about the concerns.
The Washington Post first reported the Justice Department message.

The issue stems from whether Flynn discussed sanctions against Russia with the Russian ambassador before Trump took office and then misled Pence about it. It created a turbulent 72 hours for the White House, leading to questions about Flynn's future after only three weeks.
Embattled Flynn was in 'fluid' situation Monday night leading up to resignation - CNNPolitics.com

And so Comrade Trumps comedy T.V. reality show continues.

The Senate has announced that it will be thoroughly investigating Putin's interference into this election. If they find collusion within the Trump campaign or anyone Trump is associated with, it will be considered TREASON. They may already have something, as this article was written BEFORE all Russian diplomats were thrown out of this country.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=0

And so it begins:
Senate Committee May Use Subpoenas in Russian Hacking Investigation

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump administration in chaos. lol, big surprise.

 

[Geaux4it]

Man, can't a guy do anything anymore?

National Security Adviser Michael Flynn reportedly discussed Russian sanctions with Moscow’s ambassador

Sheesh, why can't a guy break the law? Maybe he didn't mean to?

He didn't break the law

-Geaux

 

[ClosedCaption]

Congressman Devin Nunes, an expert on security, said Flynn will keep his job, adding: "there's nothing there"

but Little Marco Rubio wants an investigation.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, this is gonna piss off Putin no end, because if Trump lifts the sanctions imposed on Russia after all this, well.............people are going to KNOW he's in cahoots with Putin.

And, if he doesn't, then Putin just bought an election that he can't use.

 

[CowboyTed]

That's a power grab from the sitting President of the United States, and it's TREASON.

I'm shocked!!! You don't know the definition of treason.

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Yeah, it's not treason. It IS a violation of the Logan Act.


§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof,

Did anyone influence the Russian government?

or to defeat the measures of the United States,

Did anyone defeat the measures of the US? How?

That is the part that is alleged. I do not think that this is any different than the meeting that Bill Clinton just happened to have with the AG. People in those positions simply do not bump into each other with that kind of timing.

It would be hypocritical to be critical of that meeting but somehow give a pass to this one.

Actually it is much different. Flynn broke the law, Clinton didn't.

What Flynn did wasn't an "accidental meeting".

Just how much trouble is Michael Flynn in?

All of those officials said Flynn’s references to the election-related sanctions were explicit. Two of those officials went further, saying that Flynn urged Russia not to overreact to the penalties being imposed by President Barack Obama, making clear that the two sides would be in position to review the matter after Trump was sworn in as president.

“Kislyak was left with the impression that the sanctions would be revisited at a later time,” said a former official.​

saying that Flynn urged Russia not to overreact to the penalties being imposed by President Barack Obama, making clear that the two sides would be in position to review the matter after Trump was sworn in as president.

Any new administration planning to change course will review matters. Everyone knows that.
That against the law?

That is an arrangement.... Clear violation...

Flynn knows it now... You guys are looking real stupid right now.... You doubled down and triple downed and even Flynn knew it was wrong....

The way I see it Trump could go for a crap on the street and he would stand up and say it was the best crap in the world and you trumpettes would believe every word... You would then stick your finger in it and eat it and swear it is chocolate. Then finish off and lick the pavement clean...

This is your opinion, it is not objective... That is why you struggle with facts and evidence. When it gets in the way you just have to go back to eating Trumps shit and swearing it is chocolate...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Yeah, it's not treason. It IS a violation of the Logan Act.


§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof,

Did anyone influence the Russian government?

or to defeat the measures of the United States,

Did anyone defeat the measures of the US? How?

That is the part that is alleged. I do not think that this is any different than the meeting that Bill Clinton just happened to have with the AG. People in those positions simply do not bump into each other with that kind of timing.

It would be hypocritical to be critical of that meeting but somehow give a pass to this one.

Actually it is much different. Flynn broke the law, Clinton didn't.

What Flynn did wasn't an "accidental meeting".

Just how much trouble is Michael Flynn in?

All of those officials said Flynn’s references to the election-related sanctions were explicit. Two of those officials went further, saying that Flynn urged Russia not to overreact to the penalties being imposed by President Barack Obama, making clear that the two sides would be in position to review the matter after Trump was sworn in as president.

“Kislyak was left with the impression that the sanctions would be revisited at a later time,” said a former official.​

saying that Flynn urged Russia not to overreact to the penalties being imposed by President Barack Obama, making clear that the two sides would be in position to review the matter after Trump was sworn in as president.

Any new administration planning to change course will review matters. Everyone knows that.
That against the law?

That is an arrangement.... Clear violation...

Flynn knows it now... You guys are looking real stupid right now.... You doubled down and triple downed and even Flynn knew it was wrong....

The way I see it Trump could go for a crap on the street and he would stand up and say it was the best crap in the world and you trumpettes would believe every word... You would then stick your finger in it and eat it and swear it is chocolate. Then finish off and lick the pavement clean...

This is your opinion, it is not objective... That is why you struggle with facts and evidence. When it gets in the way you just have to go back to eating Trumps shit and swearing it is chocolate...

That is an arrangement....

What's an arrangement?

You guys are looking real stupid right now....

Who?