Forbes Columnist Fired For Writing That Men Should Protect Women

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The mind-rot of liberalism continues on ebola-like:

Given the mounting concern about sexual assault on college campuses, you might expect activists to welcome a fraternity adviser’s message that Greek houses should take positive steps to protect inebriated women from potential dangers.

You’d be wrong. Apparently it's not enough to watch out for the welfare of drunken young women. You have to do so without suggesting that they, rather than the diabolical forces of fraternity life, have any responsibility for their intoxication -- even if they arrive at a party plastered. Judging, or even acknowledging, the risky behavior of female college students has become a cultural taboo.

Hence the fate of Forbes.com contributor Bill Frezza, who briefly published a column -- under the deliberately provocative headline “Drunk Female Guests Are The Gravest Threat To Fraternities” -- warning fraternities to watch out for female party guests who show up intoxicated. “I don’t care how pretty or flirtatious a young lady is; if she’s visibly intoxicated, don’t let her in,” he wrote. The consequences, he warned, could be grave: . . . . .

The column was almost immediately jerked from the site, and Frezza, who has written for Forbes since 2011, was summarily fired. (Forbes columns are essentially blog posts, put up by their contributors without editing. Contributors are paid based on traffic, which may account for the headline and equally designed-to-outrage stock photo.) . . . .

The reaction to the piece was entirely overwrought. You’d think Frezza had called for getting women drunk and raping them rather than suggesting that fraternity members escort intoxicated women out of the party and put them safely in cabs. As we’re constantly reminded in the context of sexual consent, a drunken woman is not a responsible adult. She needs someone to watch out for her safety, whether to guard her from accidents or from assault. Getting frat boys to act as protectors rather than predators, even out of raw self-interest, seems like a positive step.​

Read the entire essay. Why is it that everything feminism touches turns to shit? To be a woman means one can live without consequence. You know, like children.
 
I could have swore that the drinking age for alcohol is 21. How is it that they are having booze underage and every college in the USA has a no alcohol policy. The frats houses can't have alcohol parties in them...
 
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Actually, he was fired for warning young men that young women are basically not responsible for anything that happens when they drink alcohol...so why risk having their lives ruined with fake rape accusations when they have drunk sex?
 
Forbes will no longer publish his blog. So what..
The writer is 100% correct.
As much as the little head wants to do all the thinking for the big head, one must consider the times in which we live and the dire consequences which could arise from even the slightest of misunderstandings.
Don't let 'em in....
 
Forbes will no longer publish his blog. So what..
The writer is 100% correct.
As much as the little head wants to do all the thinking for the big head, one must consider the times in which we live and the dire consequences which could arise from even the slightest of misunderstandings.
Don't let 'em in....

How dare you hold women accountable for their choices. Don't you realize that this means that drunk women will be offended when these frat boys turn them away?
 
And on another note, somebody (I think the CDC) released a study last year that shows female-against-male violence is on a serious upswing. I remember reading the stat was based on arrests for felony assault/battery in 2012. The ratio is up to about 3/2 for the men, but parity is in the near future. So apparently women are taking far less shit from men than they used to. They're much quicker to resort to guns & knives too.

And ummm...what was this thread about? Oh yea! Poor innocent little kittens who go to frat house parties and get shit-faced drunk, then end up in bed with some equally shit-faced 19 year old guy. They call that "rape" these days, huh?
 
Actually, he was fired for warning young men that young women are basically not responsible for anything that happens when they drink alcohol...so why risk having their lives ruined with fake rape accusations when they have drunk sex?
That.
 
Actually, he was fired for warning young men that young women are basically not responsible for anything that happens when they drink alcohol...so why risk having their lives ruined with fake rape accusations when they have drunk sex?
That.
I don't see much a distinction. Here's the heart of his argument:

In addition to the usual bouncers, assign several brothers to monitor female party guests. If any appear out of control, walk them to the door and put them in a cab heading back to their dorm. You can send me the bill. If they refuse to leave, call for an escort from campus police.

Never, ever take a drunk female guest to your bedroom – even if you have a signed contract indicating sexual consent. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated – even if she is your fiancée. And while a rape charge under these circumstances is unlikely to hold up in a court of law, it doesn’t take much for a campus kangaroo court to get you expelled, ruining your life while saddling your fraternity with a reputation for harboring rapists.
It sure looks to me like he's writing about men protecting children women.
 
Actually, he was fired for warning young men that young women are basically not responsible for anything that happens when they drink alcohol...so why risk having their lives ruined with fake rape accusations when they have drunk sex?
That.
I don't see much a distinction. Here's the heart of his argument:

In addition to the usual bouncers, assign several brothers to monitor female party guests. If any appear out of control, walk them to the door and put them in a cab heading back to their dorm. You can send me the bill. If they refuse to leave, call for an escort from campus police.

Never, ever take a drunk female guest to your bedroom – even if you have a signed contract indicating sexual consent. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated – even if she is your fiancée. And while a rape charge under these circumstances is unlikely to hold up in a court of law, it doesn’t take much for a campus kangaroo court to get you expelled, ruining your life while saddling your fraternity with a reputation for harboring rapists.
It sure looks to me like he's writing about men protecting children women.

That sounds to you like it's the women being protected?

It sounds to me like the men protecting themselves from possible rape charges.....
 
Actually, he was fired for warning young men that young women are basically not responsible for anything that happens when they drink alcohol...so why risk having their lives ruined with fake rape accusations when they have drunk sex?
That.
I don't see much a distinction. Here's the heart of his argument:

In addition to the usual bouncers, assign several brothers to monitor female party guests. If any appear out of control, walk them to the door and put them in a cab heading back to their dorm. You can send me the bill. If they refuse to leave, call for an escort from campus police.

Never, ever take a drunk female guest to your bedroom – even if you have a signed contract indicating sexual consent. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated – even if she is your fiancée. And while a rape charge under these circumstances is unlikely to hold up in a court of law, it doesn’t take much for a campus kangaroo court to get you expelled, ruining your life while saddling your fraternity with a reputation for harboring rapists.
It sure looks to me like he's writing about men protecting children women.

They are protecting themselves from these Wymmyn as well.
 
One comment really sum the outrage and why. the ending is:

"it looks like she is going to tell us what she thinks...but none of what follows rises to the level of what a strong, self-assured woman would call "thinking."

I think Ms. Bianco is only telling us how she feels, from beginning to end, without much admixture of thought. This piece is what the computer scientist types call a "core-dump": The topic of drunken women on campus has "triggered" in her a sort of an emotional overload, and instead of telling her therapist, she has revealed the output to us.

That, at least, makes more sense of Ms. Bianco's words than an attempt to parse dictionary-based meanings from them and apply them to what Mr. Frezza wrote. So, in the end, much of the confusion I experienced in reading her words was my fault: I mistook the genre of her piece. I thought it was an argument; in reality it was something more like a piece of performance art."
 
Actually, he was fired for warning young men that young women are basically not responsible for anything that happens when they drink alcohol...so why risk having their lives ruined with fake rape accusations when they have drunk sex?
That.
I don't see much a distinction. Here's the heart of his argument:

In addition to the usual bouncers, assign several brothers to monitor female party guests. If any appear out of control, walk them to the door and put them in a cab heading back to their dorm. You can send me the bill. If they refuse to leave, call for an escort from campus police.

Never, ever take a drunk female guest to your bedroom – even if you have a signed contract indicating sexual consent. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated – even if she is your fiancée. And while a rape charge under these circumstances is unlikely to hold up in a court of law, it doesn’t take much for a campus kangaroo court to get you expelled, ruining your life while saddling your fraternity with a reputation for harboring rapists.
It sure looks to me like he's writing about men protecting children women.

That sounds to you like it's the women being protected?

It sounds to me like the men protecting themselves from possible rape charges.....

If as a kid I help an old granny across the street so I can earn a merit badge at boy scouts, does my motivation for helping the old granny erase the fact that I helped her across the street and was a good citizen?
 
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Anyone who is drunk, man or woman, lacks the legal capacity to consent, sign contracts, or make smart decisions.

There's also a "friends don't let friends drive drunk" which encourages people to take car keys away from a friend who's been drinking, but you're not mocking men who get drunk and make bad decisions.

Drunks of either sex don't make good decisions.
 
Anyone who is drunk, man or woman, lacks the legal capacity to consent, sign contracts, or make smart decisions.

There's also a "friends don't let friends drive drunk" which encourages people to take car keys away from a friend who's been drinking, but you're not mocking men who get drunk and make bad decisions.

Drunks of either sex don't make good decisions.

Yes, but drunk men are held responsible for their decisions regarding sex while drunk women are not.
 
I could have swore that the drinking age for alcohol is 21. How is it that they are having booze underage and every college in the USA has a no alcohol policy. The frats houses can't have alcohol parties in them...
Locally greased palms. I live in a college town and I see the underage kids leave the bars and take the school shuttle back to the dorms where only freshmen and sophomores are allowed to live. The authorities look the other way. And they get upset when drunk kids get hit by cars crossing the streets outside the bars.
 

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