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No, it's not the same thing.
MSNBC reports the news; Fox makes the news.
Legitimate media outlets do not actively participate in promoting candidates, Fox does.
.MSNBC's biggest problem is cheerleading Obama way too fuckin' much!
No, it's not the same thing.If Fox is propaganda, so is MSNBC. Fox pushes Right, MSNBC left.
The recent gun control coverage frenzy confirms this.
MSNBC reports the news; Fox makes the news.
Legitimate media outlets do not actively participate in promoting candidates, Fox does.
I liked Stossel when he got his ass bitch-slapped by that wrestler.Fox is good for a laugh, except for Stossel and Cavuto, each of whom has enough connection to reality to be interesting even to those of us with enough going on to dismiss about half of their content as emotional drivel. My fave on Fox is Seen O'Hannity, the Bush League's lantern-jawed bottom. Those shows people talk about, Stewart and the guy who apes O'rally, they can't hold a candle to O'hannity in the belly laugh division.
MSNBC is just pathetic. Windy Mathews is a simple old queen. Him and Gingrich have voices that would benefit from a chop to the throat. Some of those younger ones remind me of the Poindexter set at college; people whose whole world is based on what should be and not what is. Channels like msnbc help one to understand what happened to carnivals.
CNN? Wow. The bigger they were, the harder they fell. Who in the fuck is Wolf Blitzer? He looks like the guy who panhandles in the little town a few miles up the road, only Blitzer doesn't sound as smart as that guy. Erin Burnett? Looks like an interesting weekend, but an hour of news a quarter inch deep? Uh, no, but thanks.
And it gets worse. Who here thought that 70s hair was the bottom of the barrel? Every one of you knows this has a lot further to fall.
No it is not the same.No it is the same.
MSNBC is selective - like Fox - and chooses to cover and push stories that support a "left" agenda. Again, the blackout on most all of Obama's wrong doing is proof of this. The recent gun control hysteria is even more proof of this....
Banning 'assault weapons' is a 'left' talking point.
When you promote one party and shun the other, you become a news source that cannot be trusted.
Just to clarify, are you denying that MSNBC is left leaning?
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Obama is not a candidate and they did not actively promote him during the election.No, it's not the same thing.
MSNBC reports the news; Fox makes the news.
Legitimate media outlets do not actively participate in promoting candidates, Fox does.
.MSNBC's biggest problem is cheerleading Obama way too fuckin' much!
No it is not the same.No it is the same.
MSNBC is selective - like Fox - and chooses to cover and push stories that support a "left" agenda. Again, the blackout on most all of Obama's wrong doing is proof of this. The recent gun control hysteria is even more proof of this....
Banning 'assault weapons' is a 'left' talking point.
When you promote one party and shun the other, you become a news source that cannot be trusted.
Just to clarify, are you denying that MSNBC is left leaning?
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Fox deliberately tries to deceive its viewers.
You can prove what Fox say's is wrong, you can't do that with MSNBC.One could say the exact same about MSNBC pushing an assault weapons ban 24/7 after Sandy Hook.
For a weapon that kills less than 50 Americans annually, isn't it deceptive to dedicate as much airtime as they did to this cause when are literally thousands of other more legitimate and malicious things taking place within our gov't and country?
See my point?
They beef up coverage on left leaning issues.
I liked Stossel when he got his ass bitch-slapped by that wrestler.Fox is good for a laugh, except for Stossel and Cavuto, each of whom has enough connection to reality to be interesting even to those of us with enough going on to dismiss about half of their content as emotional drivel. My fave on Fox is Seen O'Hannity, the Bush League's lantern-jawed bottom. Those shows people talk about, Stewart and the guy who apes O'rally, they can't hold a candle to O'hannity in the belly laugh division.
MSNBC is just pathetic. Windy Mathews is a simple old queen. Him and Gingrich have voices that would benefit from a chop to the throat. Some of those younger ones remind me of the Poindexter set at college; people whose whole world is based on what should be and not what is. Channels like msnbc help one to understand what happened to carnivals.
CNN? Wow. The bigger they were, the harder they fell. Who in the fuck is Wolf Blitzer? He looks like the guy who panhandles in the little town a few miles up the road, only Blitzer doesn't sound as smart as that guy. Erin Burnett? Looks like an interesting weekend, but an hour of news a quarter inch deep? Uh, no, but thanks.
And it gets worse. Who here thought that 70s hair was the bottom of the barrel? Every one of you knows this has a lot further to fall.
Since election day last year, Fox has lost a large percentage of its moderate-conservative viewership.
Hannity dipped more than 50%; O'Reilly lost about a quarter.
And that's not all! There's a big loss in the "trust" factor with Fox, for those claiming to be moderate-conservatives.According to Nielsen data, Fox News's prime-time monthly audience fell to its lowest level in twelve years in January among the 25-to-54 demographic. Daytime Fox News programming likewise saw its lowest monthly ratings in this age cohort since June 2008. Even the network's two biggest stars, O'Reilly and Hannity, have not been immune from viewer desertion: Hannity lost close to 50 percent of his pre-election audience in the final weeks of 2012, and O'Reilly more than a quarter. The slide hasn't stopped in 2013, either. Compared with a year ago, O'Reilly's February prime-time ratings dropped 
26 percent in the coveted 25-to-54 demographic, his worst performance since July 2008. Hannity's sank even further, to the lowest point in his show's history.
You can only put out so much bullshit for so long before normal people start tuning out.
What I found that was quite a hoot, was that a recent survey found Fox viewers to be less informed than people who watch no news programs at all!
That's pretty bad!Dan Cassino, a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson University who specializes in studying partisan psychology...conducted a survey that found Fox News's viewers were less informed about current political issues than those who watched no news at all.
Any moderately intelligent individual would conclude Fox News is garbage just in the same way MSNBC news is garbage. Therefore, Im glad to hear viewers are dropping off.
Journalists these days seem more concerned about ratings than journalistic integrity, and everyone seems to have a pretty blatantly obvious agenda (especially MSNBC).
Turn off your TVs folks its all garbage.
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You can prove what Fox say's is wrong, you can't do that with MSNBC.One could say the exact same about MSNBC pushing an assault weapons ban 24/7 after Sandy Hook.
For a weapon that kills less than 50 Americans annually, isn't it deceptive to dedicate as much airtime as they did to this cause when are literally thousands of other more legitimate and malicious things taking place within our gov't and country?
See my point?
They beef up coverage on left leaning issues.
I challenge anyone to prove anything Rachel Maddow said is not true.
Just because they have an agenda and are selective on what they choose to cover, doesn't automatically make them unreliable. As much as I am against Fox, I don't dismiss their claims simply on the basis that it comes from them. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until I have evidence to the contrary.I'm not saying that the facts they give are false, I'm arguing that that they have an agenda and are selective on what they choose to cover based on that agenda.
This makes them unreliable if you're looking to understand the big picture.
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Just because they have an agenda and are selective on what they choose to cover, doesn't automatically make them unreliable. As much as I am against Fox, I don't dismiss their claims simply on the basis that it comes from them. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until I have evidence to the contrary.
MSNBC reports the news; Fox makes the news.
Legitimate media outlets do not actively participate in promoting candidates, Fox does.
Name me anyone at MSNBC that openly promoted a candidate in the last election like Fox did for republican candidates. Glenn Beck promoted the Tea Party on his show for weeks before their big rally in Washington. In fact, whenever any republican candidate goes to Washington, he's got to make a required visit to kiss the ring of Roger Ailes. Fox practically writes the republican agenda. MSNBC doesn't do anything like that for the democrats.Bullshit. You just agree with the leftist bias MSNBC puts out there with their stories so you claim they're "real" news. You're no different than the dedicated Fox viewers you're criticizing. Talk about irony.
The mainstream media stopped doing actual journalism the day they fired Phil Donahue for his anti-Iraq war point of view.News shouldn't have an agenda - that is bad journalism!
The purpose of the news is to inform the readership of all of the most important stories that are going on in the world so that individuals can monitor, plan, and take action accordingly. It is supposed to be as non-biased as possible.
When an agenda is thrown into the mix, and news is withheld or glossed over in order to protect a political candidate, a company, or a certain ideal, the readers (naturally) become under-informed.
This most certainly makes it unreliable because you can no longer rely on it to give you all of the most relevant information (which is what one could only hope a respectable news outlet would provide)...
See my point?
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Name me anyone at MSNBC that openly promoted a candidate in the last election like Fox did for republican candidates. Glenn Beck promoted the Tea Party on his show for weeks before their big rally in Washington. In fact, whenever any republican candidate goes to Washington, he's got to make a required visit to kiss the ring of Roger Ailes. Fox practically writes the republican agenda. MSNBC doesn't do anything like that for the democrats.Bullshit. You just agree with the leftist bias MSNBC puts out there with their stories so you claim they're "real" news. You're no different than the dedicated Fox viewers you're criticizing. Talk about irony.
I'm dead serious!Really Loonboy, you can't be serious.
