France's top court:UNCONSTITUTIONAL to levy 75% tax on rich

[yidnar]

OH my God, somewhere a Rich person might be paying his fair share!!!!

We can't have that!

Stealing 75% of what someone earns is paying their fair share?! Show me where you are entitled to another hard working American's income?

Ever hear, "Thou shall not covet?" That means get your hands and greedy eyes off of what others have. Don't like it? Take it up with God himself.

First, I don't believe in your God or your bible. Your "God" is a fraud to keep stupid people like you in line. I'm vastly more evolved.

Second, if you are making seven or eight figures, it's because you are stealing from the people who are doing the actual work. Shit, we give 8 figures to CEO's when their companies need to be bailed out by the government, that gives the government the right to take that money back.

why don't you set an example and give up 75 % of your money leach !!

 

[bripat9643]

Only for the upper 35 to 40%, bripat. You better study ALL the stats before making a silly statement like that again.

What "stats?"

I'm the only one who has posted any stats, you senile moron. You haven't provided a smidgeon of evidence for any of your claims.

 

[bripat9643]

They went along with it? I never realized the Cuban people voted Castro into power.

The Cuban people were better off than the people of any other country in Latin America. Their standard of living was rapidly approaching ours. Cubans underwent a drastic reduction in their standard of living when Castro came to power. Only fucking commies claim that Castro was an improvement over Batista.

I know this is a hard concept for you to get, but Castro is a national hero to the Cuban people.

And he will be long after they decide Communism wasn't such a hot idea.

It wasn't about economic systems, it was about how he liberated their people from colonial domination by the US.

Now despite the fact we've been punishing Cuba economically for 50 years because of this, the fact is, Cubans ARE better off than they were under Batista. Which is why 50 years of scheming from South Florida hasn't resulted in getting rid of him.

He was a fucking thug that took over a mostly unarmed populace. He imported an underclass and even they are leaving in droves when they can.

Go meet some actual Cubans.

You have to be a commie to claim that Cubans are better off under Castro than they were under Batista. The evidence is overwhelming that they had a much better standard of living. Just go there and look at all the 1957 Chevies that are still driving around. Those cars were all new when Batista was in power. They haven't been able to purchase any new cars since.

Yeah, Cuba is a paradise of material wealth!

 

[JakeStarkey]

The evidence is overwhelmingly in favor that 35% of Cubans lived decently in 1958, and the rest lived atrociously. bripat has brought nothing to the table at all to discuss the lower half of Cuban society.

Cuba: 1958 -
• 75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.

• More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.

• 85% had no inside running water.

• 91% had no electricity.

• There was only 1 doctor per 2,000 people in rural areas.

• More than one-third of the rural population had intestinal parasites.

• Only 4% of Cuban peasants ate meat regularly; only 1% ate fish, less than 2% eggs, 3% bread, 11% milk; none ate green vegetables.

• The average annual income among peasants was $91 (1956), less than 1/3 of the national income per person.

• 45% of the rural population was illiterate; 44% had never attended a school.

Even for most city dwellers, life was not all that rosy.

• 25% of the labor force was chronically unemployed.

• 1 million people were illiterate ( in a population of about 5.5 million).

• 27% of urban children, not to speak of 61% of rural children, were not attending school.

• Racial discrimination was widespread.

• The public school system had deteriorated badly.

• Corruption was endemic; anyone could be bought, from a Supreme Court judge to a cop.

• Police brutality and torture were common.

Related links:

For more on Cuba's history, go to J.A. Sierra's The Timetable History of Cuba.

Eric Williams, From Columbus to Castro: The History of the Caribbean 1492-1969, Vintage Books, New York, 1984.

 

[JoeB131]

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He was a fucking thug that took over a mostly unarmed populace. He imported an underclass and even they are leaving in droves when they can.

Go meet some actual Cubans.

You mean the ones who participated in the sell out of their country? And got chased to Florida after the revolution. Those "Cubans" like scumbag Marco "I don't know where I was born" Rubio...

 

[JoeB131]

You have to be a commie to claim that Cubans are better off under Castro than they were under Batista. The evidence is overwhelming that they had a much better standard of living. Just go there and look at all the 1957 Chevies that are still driving around. Those cars were all new when Batista was in power. They haven't been able to purchase any new cars since.

Yeah, Cuba is a paradise of material wealth!

They haven't been able to buy new cars because we've imposed an embargo on them for the last 50 years after they threw us out.

Man, what a dishonest argument...

The ironic thing is that our vindictiveness has probably perpetuated the Castro regime.

 

[JoeB131]

Stealing 75% of what someone earns is paying their fair share?! Show me where you are entitled to another hard working American's income?

Ever hear, "Thou shall not covet?" That means get your hands and greedy eyes off of what others have. Don't like it? Take it up with God himself.

First, I don't believe in your God or your bible. Your "God" is a fraud to keep stupid people like you in line. I'm vastly more evolved.

Second, if you are making seven or eight figures, it's because you are stealing from the people who are doing the actual work. Shit, we give 8 figures to CEO's when their companies need to be bailed out by the government, that gives the government the right to take that money back.

why don't you set an example and give up 75 % of your money leach !!

What I pointed out was totally lost on you, wasn't it, stupid person?

 

[Desperado]

Now it's clear..... Obama isn't Kenyan he's French

 

[JakeStarkey]

For anyone who does not understand the war, the South, and slavery, read Cornerstone Speech by Alexander H. Stephens before suggesting the South was not warring about slavery.

Lincoln went to war to keep the Union indivisible, to keep slavery out of the territories, to keep federal properties, and to enforce constitutional, electoral process.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Some little irish communist in Prague tried to tell me communism didn't work in the USSR because the USA and UK didn't help prop it up with trade.

You communists are funny too, blaming others for your system not producing the required goods within your closed system.

You have to be a commie to claim that Cubans are better off under Castro than they were under Batista. The evidence is overwhelming that they had a much better standard of living. Just go there and look at all the 1957 Chevies that are still driving around. Those cars were all new when Batista was in power. They haven't been able to purchase any new cars since.

Yeah, Cuba is a paradise of material wealth!

They haven't been able to buy new cars because we've imposed an embargo on them for the last 50 years after they threw us out.

Man, what a dishonest argument...

The ironic thing is that our vindictiveness has probably perpetuated the Castro regime.

 

[bripat9643]

The evidence is overwhelmingly in favor that 35% of Cubans lived decently in 1958, and the rest lived atrociously. bripat has brought nothing to the table at all to discuss the lower half of Cuban society.

I can't look up your source on the internet, Fakey, so how do we know any of this is true? what country keeps such statistics in 1958, none that I'm aware of. Here's what we know:

Cuba: 1958 -
• 75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.

• More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.

• 85% had no inside running water.

• 91% had no electricity.

LABOR RELATIONS: In 1958, an industrial worker in Cuba earned an average salary of the equivalent of $6 US dollars per each 8-hour work day, while an agricultural worker earned the equivalent of $3 US dollars. Cuba then ranked number eight (8) in the world as far as salaries paid to industrial workers, outperformed only by the following countries:

United States ($16.80)
Canada ($11.73)
Sweden ($ 8.10)
Switzerland ($ 8.00)
New Zealand ($ 6.72)
Denmark ($ 6.46)
Norway ($ 6.10)

As far as salaries for agricultural workers, Cuba was number seven (7) in the world, outperformed only by the following countries:

Canada ($7.18)
United States ($6.80)
New Zealand ($6.72)
Australia ($6.61)
Sweden ($5.47)
Norway ($4.38)[/quote]

So Cuba's agricultural workers were ranked 7th in the world in terms of pay. That hardly squares with your claim that they all lived in grass huts.

• There was only 1 doctor per 2,000 people in rural areas.

PUBLIC HEALTH: In 1958, Cuba had a population of six million, six hundred thirty one thousand inhabitants (6,630,921, to be exact). At that time, there were 35 thousand (35,000) hospital beds in the country, an average of one hospital bed per 190 inhabitants, a number which then exceeded the goal of developed countries, which was 200 inhabitants per hospital bed. In 1960, the United States had one hospital bed per 109 inhabitants.

Also in 1958, the Cuban nation had an average of one doctor per 980 inhabitants, a number that was surpassed in Latin America only by Argentina, with one doctor per 760 inhabitants, and Uruguay, with one per each 860. Cuba had one dentist per 2,978 inhabitants then.

This data is found in the archives of the World Health Organization.

So Cuba as a whole had one doctor per 980 inhabitants, but you claim that in rural areas there was only one doctor per 2000 inhabitants. That would mean that in urban areas there would have been several times more doctors per capita than in the United States. That claim simply isn't credible.

• More than one-third of the rural population had intestinal parasites.

The mortality rate was 5.8 -third lowest in the world-, while the mortality rate of the United States was 9.5 and that of Canada 7.6.

Towards the end of the 50s, the island had the lowest infant mortality rate of Latin America, with 3.76, followed by Argentina with 6.11, Venezuela with 6.56, and Uruguay with 7.30, as per data provided by the World Health Organization.

So Cuba had a lower mortality rate that either Canada or the U.S. and it had the lowest infant mortality rate in Latin America, but you're trying to tell us that they were all infested with intestinal parasites?

Your claims don't add up, Fakey.

• Only 4% of Cuban peasants ate meat regularly; only 1% ate fish, less than 2% eggs, 3% bread, 11% milk; none ate green vegetables.

• The average annual income among peasants was $91 (1956), less than 1/3 of the national income per person.

the International Labor Organization in Geneva, Switzerland says Cuban agricultural workers earned $3/day. that comes to a total of $750/year if they worked a 5 day week. Since they probably worked a 6 day week, that comes to $900/year. Cuba was ranked 7th in the world in terms of agricultural pay. That hardly squares with your fantasies of deprivation.

• 45% of the rural population was illiterate; 44% had never attended a school.

Even for most city dwellers, life was not all that rosy.

• 25% of the labor force was chronically unemployed.

The unemployment rate at the time was 7.07%, substantially better than the rate the United States has had for the past 4 years. Once again, Fakey, your stats don't square with official sources. They are obviously just made up.

• 1 million people were illiterate ( in a population of about 5.5 million).

• 27% of urban children, not to speak of 61% of rural children, were not attending school.

Cuba was the Latin American country with the highest budget for education in 1958, with 23% of the total budget earmarked for this expense. It was followed by Costa Rica (20%), and Guatemala and Chile, each with 16%. This data comes from America in Statistics, published by the Pan American Union.

• Racial discrimination was widespread.

racial discimination was widespread in the United States at the time, moron. Remember Jim Crow?

• The public school system had deteriorated badly.

Says who?

• Corruption was endemic; anyone could be bought, from a Supreme Court judge to a cop.

• Police brutality and torture were common.

Yeah, as if Castro never harmed a hair on anyone's head.

Related links:

For more on Cuba's history, go to J.A. Sierra's The Timetable History of Cuba.

Eric Williams, From Columbus to Castro: The History of the Caribbean 1492-1969, Vintage Books, New York, 1984.

Your historians are obviously either ignorant or a couple of Commie propagandists who don't care about the facts. My guess is the later.

 

[bripat9643]

You have to be a commie to claim that Cubans are better off under Castro than they were under Batista. The evidence is overwhelming that they had a much better standard of living. Just go there and look at all the 1957 Chevies that are still driving around. Those cars were all new when Batista was in power. They haven't been able to purchase any new cars since.

Yeah, Cuba is a paradise of material wealth!

They haven't been able to buy new cars because we've imposed an embargo on them for the last 50 years after they threw us out.

Man, what a dishonest argument...

The ironic thing is that our vindictiveness has probably perpetuated the Castro regime.

Sorry, Blow Job, but no one prevented them from buying European cars or Japanese cars.

That lame argument is as old as the Castro regime.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are ignoring documented fact of what the country was like for more than 50% of the population. No libertarian, as you demonstrate here, cares about the lower cases. They are meant only to toil and labor for you.

The evidence is overwhelmingly in favor that 35% of Cubans lived decently in 1958, and the rest lived atrociously. bripat has brought nothing to the table at all to discuss the lower half of Cuban society.

I can't look up your source on the internet, Fakey, so how do we know any of this is true? what country keeps such statistics in 1958, none that I'm aware of. Here's what we know:

Cuba: 1958 -
• 75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.

• More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.

• 85% had no inside running water.

• 91% had no electricity.

LABOR RELATIONS: In 1958, an industrial worker in Cuba earned an average salary of the equivalent of $6 US dollars per each 8-hour work day, while an agricultural worker earned the equivalent of $3 US dollars. Cuba then ranked number eight (8) in the world as far as salaries paid to industrial workers, outperformed only by the following countries:

United States ($16.80)
Canada ($11.73)
Sweden ($ 8.10)
Switzerland ($ 8.00)
New Zealand ($ 6.72)
Denmark ($ 6.46)
Norway ($ 6.10)

As far as salaries for agricultural workers, Cuba was number seven (7) in the world, outperformed only by the following countries:

Canada ($7.18)
United States ($6.80)
New Zealand ($6.72)
Australia ($6.61)
Sweden ($5.47)
Norway ($4.38)

So Cuba's agricultural workers were ranked 7th in the world in terms of pay. That hardly squares with your claim that they all lived in grass huts.





PUBLIC HEALTH: In 1958, Cuba had a population of six million, six hundred thirty one thousand inhabitants (6,630,921, to be exact). At that time, there were 35 thousand (35,000) hospital beds in the country, an average of one hospital bed per 190 inhabitants, a number which then exceeded the goal of developed countries, which was 200 inhabitants per hospital bed. In 1960, the United States had one hospital bed per 109 inhabitants.

Also in 1958, the Cuban nation had an average of one doctor per 980 inhabitants, a number that was surpassed in Latin America only by Argentina, with one doctor per 760 inhabitants, and Uruguay, with one per each 860. Cuba had one dentist per 2,978 inhabitants then.

This data is found in the archives of the World Health Organization.

So Cuba as a whole had one doctor per 980 inhabitants, but you claim that in rural areas there was only one doctor per 2000 inhabitants. That would mean that in urban areas there would have been more several times more doctors per capita than in the United States. That claim simply isn't credible.



The mortality rate was 5.8 -third lowest in the world-, while the mortality rate of the United States was 9.5 and that of Canada 7.6.

Towards the end of the 50s, the island had the lowest infant mortality rate of Latin America, with 3.76, followed by Argentina with 6.11, Venezuela with 6.56, and Uruguay with 7.30, as per data provided by the World Health Organization.

So Cuba had a lower mortality rate that either Canada or the U.S. and it had the lowest infant mortality rate in Latin America, but you're trying to tell us that they were all infested with intestinal parasites?

Your claims don't add up, Fakey.



the International Labor Organization in Geneva, Switzerland says Cuban agricultural workers earned $3/day. that comes to a total of $750/year if they worked a 5 day week. Since they probably worked a 6 day week, that comes to $900/year. Cuba was ranked 7th in the world in terms of agricultural pay. That hardly squares with your fantasies of deprivation.



The unemployment rate at the time was 7.07%, better than the United States at this moment. Once again, Fakey, your stats don't square with official sources. They are obviously just made up.



Cuba was the Latin American country with the highest budget for education in 1958, with 23% of the total budget earmarked for this expense. It was followed by Costa Rica (20%), and Guatemala and Chile, each with 16%. This data comes from America in Statistics, published by the Pan American Union.



racial discimination was widespread in the United States at the time, moron. Remember Jim Crow?



Says who?

• Corruption was endemic; anyone could be bought, from a Supreme Court judge to a cop.

• Police brutality and torture were common.

Yeah, as if Castro never harmed a hair on anyone's head.

Related links:

For more on Cuba's history, go to J.A. Sierra's The Timetable History of Cuba.

Eric Williams, From Columbus to Castro: The History of the Caribbean 1492-1969, Vintage Books, New York, 1984.

Your historians are obviously either ignorant or a couple of Commie propagandists who don't care about the facts. My guess is the later.

 

[Katzndogz]

Stealing 75% of what someone earns is paying their fair share?! Show me where you are entitled to another hard working American's income?

Ever hear, "Thou shall not covet?" That means get your hands and greedy eyes off of what others have. Don't like it? Take it up with God himself.

First, I don't believe in your God or your bible. Your "God" is a fraud to keep stupid people like you in line. I'm vastly more evolved.

Second, if you are making seven or eight figures, it's because you are stealing from the people who are doing the actual work. Shit, we give 8 figures to CEO's when their companies need to be bailed out by the government, that gives the government the right to take that money back.

Which would mean the Kennedy's have stolen from the American people.. John Effin Kerry has stolen.. along with countless liberals who have multi million dollar incomes and portfolios. So who gets to determine at what level someone is stealing?? Hmm? I think all of the Detroit Auto bail out companies needs to hear you liberals stating the government has the right to drain their incomes.. Why didn't Obama say that very thing during the election, hmm?

Every time you buy a bottle of Heinz ketchup John Kerry is stealing from you. That ketchup should be free because he can afford to fairly distribute ketchup. Mustard too. Don't forget relish.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You are ignoring documented fact of what the country was like for more than 50% of the population. No libertarian, as you demonstrate here, cares about the lower cases. They are meant only to toil and labor for you.

You obviously don't understand libertarianism

 

[JakeStarkey]

Any American who cares about the county knows that libertarianism is the philosophy for barbarian and one opposed to the principles of classical liberalism.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Any American who cares about the county knows that libertarianism is the philosophy for barbarian and one opposed to the principles of classical liberalism.

Classical liberalism is dead in this country.

 

[bripat9643]

You are ignoring documented fact of what the country was like for more than 50% of the population. No libertarian, as you demonstrate here, cares about the lower cases. They are meant only to toil and labor for you.

No I don't, Fakey. The official data shows that they were better off than the rest of Latin America. In fact, they were better off than most European countries. The income of Cuban agricultural workers was ranked 7th in the world.

My sources are official documents from official sources like the World Health Organization. They can be found online. Your source is some pinko propagandist and I have no access to his data.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bripat's conclusions are selective and biased. This will put those documents into context and demonstrate bripat is cherry picking.

Cuban housing from 1958: Cuba : Housing : Rural Life

Cuban Agriculture Before 1959: The Social Situation FE480/FE480: Cuban Agriculture Before 1959: The Social Situation

 

[bripat9643]

bripat's conclusions are selective and biased. This will put those documents into context and demonstrate bripat is cherry picking.

Cuban housing from 1958: Cuba : Housing : Rural Life

Cuban Agriculture Before 1959: The Social Situation FE480/FE480: Cuban Agriculture Before 1959: The Social Situation

You're posting Commie propaganda, you witless senile git. Here's the bottom line, Fakey: the income of agricultural workers was ranked 7th in the world. You can't square that fact with claims that somehow Cuban agricultural workers were deprived compared to the rest of the world.

Cuban agricultural workers earned more than the workers of the following countries:

UK
Ireland
France
Germany
Holland
Italy
Spain
Japan
South Korea
Finland
Belgium


Now the pay of Cuba's agricultural workers is the worst in Latin America.

There's no way to square the facts with any claims that the life of the peasants improved under Castro.