Freedom on display at a Kentucky school today

[Lastamender]

The National Crime Survey has also reported that the violent crimes have recently fallen. This report says that the violent crimes in the US fell from 79.8 percent to just 20.1 for every 1,000 persons.

^^^
From your link, so what are you complaining about?

 

[Dr Grump]

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

So your country is awash with guns and has a massive head per capita death by guns than my country. And my country doesn't have many guns at all. Yeah, no correlation there. At all....

 

[Dr Grump]

In the red areas of this country violent crime is almost nonexistent, Because of the high number of firearms owned by law abiding citizens. Fact

Thanks for your opinion. Now, do you have any facts to back it up.

 

[bodecea]

 

[Rustic]

That says nothing. You have proof criminals even vote?

The red areas are where the most firearms exist, And those places have the least amount of violent crime. Fact

The red also has few people.

True, And an extremely high number legally owned firearms. So firearms are not the problem.
Firearms have no control over people. People kill people not firearms

Crime is going down in NYC with strong gun control. Crime is going up everywhere else.

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

 

[Rustic]

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

So your country is awash with guns and has a massive head per capita death by guns than my country. And my country doesn't have many guns at all. Yeah, no correlation there. At all....

People kill people firearms do not, firearms have no control over people. Dip shit

 

[Brain357]

That says nothing. You have proof criminals even vote?

The red areas are where the most firearms exist, And those places have the least amount of violent crime. Fact

The red also has few people.

True, And an extremely high number legally owned firearms. So firearms are not the problem.
Firearms have no control over people. People kill people not firearms

Crime is going down in NYC with strong gun control. Crime is going up everywhere else.

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

 

[Brain357]

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

So your country is awash with guns and has a massive head per capita death by guns than my country. And my country doesn't have many guns at all. Yeah, no correlation there. At all....

People kill people firearms do not, firearms have no control over people. Dip shit

Countries with strong gun control don't have a school shooting problem. FACT.

 

[Rustic]

The red areas are where the most firearms exist, And those places have the least amount of violent crime. Fact

The red also has few people.

True, And an extremely high number legally owned firearms. So firearms are not the problem.
Firearms have no control over people. People kill people not firearms

Crime is going down in NYC with strong gun control. Crime is going up everywhere else.

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

Areas with the most lax gun laws have the least crime. Buy more guns and ammo

 

[Brain357]

The red also has few people.

True, And an extremely high number legally owned firearms. So firearms are not the problem.
Firearms have no control over people. People kill people not firearms

Crime is going down in NYC with strong gun control. Crime is going up everywhere else.

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

Areas with the most lax gun laws have the least crime. Buy more guns and ammo

That is funny. There are some states with lax gun laws that have quite high homicide rates.

 

[Rustic]

True, And an extremely high number legally owned firearms. So firearms are not the problem.
Firearms have no control over people. People kill people not firearms

Crime is going down in NYC with strong gun control. Crime is going up everywhere else.

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

Areas with the most lax gun laws have the least crime. Buy more guns and ammo

That is funny. There are some states with lax gun laws that have quite high homicide rates.

Only in progressive controlled urban areas...

 

[Rustic]

Violence is appealing to the average progressive...

 

[Brain357]

Violence is appealing to the average progressive...

Link?

 

[Brain357]

Crime is going down in NYC with strong gun control. Crime is going up everywhere else.

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

Areas with the most lax gun laws have the least crime. Buy more guns and ammo

That is funny. There are some states with lax gun laws that have quite high homicide rates.

Only in progressive controlled urban areas...

Report: Violent crime rate is higher for rural poor

 

[Rustic]

Na, in the red areas crime had always has gone down with the purchase of more firearms by by law abiding citizens.

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

Areas with the most lax gun laws have the least crime. Buy more guns and ammo

That is funny. There are some states with lax gun laws that have quite high homicide rates.

Only in progressive controlled urban areas...

Report: Violent crime rate is higher for rural poor

Na, Rural America has next to no violent crime.
Firearm ownership is in absolute right and none of your fucking business

 

[Brain357]

Link?

Crime has gone up in Wisconsin every single year since getting concealed carry. Meanwhile NYC with strict gun laws has decreasing crime.

Areas with the most lax gun laws have the least crime. Buy more guns and ammo

That is funny. There are some states with lax gun laws that have quite high homicide rates.

Only in progressive controlled urban areas...

Report: Violent crime rate is higher for rural poor

Na, Rural America has next to no violent crime.
Firearm ownership is in absolute right and none of your fucking business

Countries with strong gun control do not have a school shooting problem. FACT.

 

[Rustic]

It really doesn’t matter anyway, Trump and the Congress will not even try to pass any new frivolous gun control laws because it’s a waste of time and money ~ only stupid people believe those will work. Lol

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's sad that these people died. But I don't get outraged anymore. Because of the conservatives in this country, we'll never have real change made to our gun laws and gun culture.

Mass shootings are to continue to happen unless some real changes are made.

Conservative America has a strange obsession with guns which is just downright unhealthy.

You know when I was in school we never heard about school shootings! The only thing that I know has changed is no padle in the school. Maybe we should bring it back. We have allowed citizen ownership of fire arms for a very long time and at one time we did not have this problem. Maybe we should look at what has changed since the problem started. The gun was n ot the problem here the kid was.

Hell up to 1972 i never felt threatened until integrations started and when Armed Security Guards showed up, i had a somewhat bad feeling about black "folks". Why up till then in a mostly white school never a gun in sight, after more blacks were introduced, about 20 guns were walking around? Was i missing something there?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Real men would want to save children’s lives. There isn’t a school shooting problem in countries with strong gun control...

Liberals don't give a rats ass about babies in or out of the womb, they just follow lock step willingly wanting their freedoms taken away so they wont have to think for themselves. This is why when 4 Us citizens were left for dead in Benghazi, the leftards allowed Hitlery and Susan Rice to walk even after they perjured themselves, which if they did it, would be 5 years in jail. Liberals love the 2 tier justice system, that is why the liberal elites get away with murder and the libtards love it...

There aren’t school shootings when there is strong gun control. It is clear you don’t care about the lives of children. We could stop the slaughter.

There aren’t school shootings when there is strong gun control.

fairly sure every school in America has 'strong gun control'.

and yet, shootings still happen.

That’s because it is extremely easy to get a gun. That isn’t strong gun control obviously.

Well, Lessee: Anyone choosing to moniker themselves after a Brain tells me you are actually probably dumber than a box of shoes. Most smug people are. So -100 synapse just for the arrogance.

"Extremely easy to get a gun." FACT: It is harder to get a gun now than ever in the history of the country. There are now over TWENTY-THOUSAND GUN LAWS in the USA. When I was a kid, we took our guns to school! Had them in the gun rack of our rear window! No problems then! Now you get expelled just for SAYING the word gun. Deduct another 20,000 synapse.

SO I DID A LITTLE DIGGING across a number of websites to uncover some facts:

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At the bottom, you can see the history of major gun legislation or actions taken to restrict gun ownership. The 19th century had triple that of the 18th century, restrictions in the 20th century went up by another 830%, and so far just 18 years into the new century, we have already had another 56% restrictions added on!

Meantime, gun shooting deaths in schools in the USA (I counted them) went from only 10 in the 18th century to 34 in the 19th century, then jumped to 282 deaths in the 20th century, and already, only into the 18th year of the new century, we are up to 255 deaths from guns shot in schools. That is over 90% the total for the 20th century.

WHAT CAN WE CONCLUDE?

School shootings and deaths have risen proportional to gun laws. One could almost argue that the gun laws are related to the killings! So obviously it isn't a lack of gun laws, restrictions or ease of access. Subtract another 25 million synapse for the Brain. If anything, there is most likely a direct or indirect link between school shootings and *population
*number of people in big cities
*degree of overcrowding
*size of classrooms
*preponderance of public school influence in child's life
*dwindling degree of parental / family influence in child's home life.

So subtract another 65 billion synapse. The Brain is comatose.

Put another way, lead pencils are far more available than guns, yet you don't see everyone grabbing a lead pencil and writing something with one, much less stabbing someone in the neck. Indeed, gun deaths have risen sharply proportional to the lack of familiarity, exposure, comfort and training in firearms, NOT their availability. Indeed, as we go back the centuries, years ago a gun was FAR MORE LIKELY to be a standard item on a person or in the household. And STILL, there weren't the killings of today.

There is no basis to blame school shootings on the availability of guns, lack of gun laws and regulations, except among the most imbecilic among us, and every reason to associate it with increased societal pressures living in large crowded cities combined with lack of training. Citing statistics from other countries is MEANINGLESS. It is a fool's errand to assume that what seems to have worked a certain way in another country with a completely different set of historical and cultural factors should work similar here. Considering that the top ten causes of death are (2016):
Suicide: 43,000
Kidney Disease: 48,000
Flu and Pneumonia: 55,000
Diabetes: 76,000
Alzheimer's: 94,000
Stroke: 133,000
Accidents: 136,000
COPD: 147,000
Cancer: 592,000
Heart Disease: 614,000

In fact, I cannot even find a statistic for where school shooting deaths at 282 for all of the 20th century would even fit in as a stat! Maybe right below number of deaths caused by paper cut or stubbing ones toe?

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Firearms OVERALL of ALL KINDS doesn't even amount to more than a blip on the chart. WHICH MAKES IT ALL THE MORE TRAGIC THAT:
A). The Schools still can't seem to prevent them!
B). That so much media hyper-attention is focused on the matter as if this was even in the top 1,000 issues that we should be worried about as a NATIONAL CONCERN.

CONCLUSIONS: Those that make such a deal about guns and gun crimes in the USA as a function of the NRA, availability or lack of gun laws CLEARLY do so mainly out of total ignorance of the facts combined with a dislike and fear of guns and an untold desire just to see them totally banned from the law-biding populous.

Your statistics reminding me of something that happened in the 1990s, you know when William Jefferson Clinton(I did not have sexual relations with that woman) had banned assault rifles and high capacity mags. Columbine High School shooting still happened even with the gun ban.. Why did it happen, because INSANE liberals will still get the guns, illegally and kill people....

Columbine High School massacre - Wikipedia

If the bombs that the 2 had made, worked, even more people would of died. Do you then ban lead pipes for plumbing and fertilizer? Funny how it seems that the left is the party of NO, all of a sudden, and willing to give up everyone's freedom....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's sad that these people died. But I don't get outraged anymore. Because of the conservatives in this country, we'll never have real change made to our gun laws and gun culture.

Mass shootings are to continue to happen unless some real changes are made.

Conservative America has a strange obsession with guns which is just downright unhealthy.

So what is your fix to stop gun crimes? What Gun laws would of prevented this shooting?

When you ask a liberal this question, they run off and hide, come back in a while, then call me a racist.....
Why is it okay for children to be executed before or after birth by abortion, yet a liberal gets all up tight when a liberal aborts children in a public school?

Why don't you come back when you've got something sensible to say?

Buh bye, when you don't have anything creative to bring to the table , it is time for you to disappear... stupid ****....