Freedom on display at a Kentucky school today

[Brain357]

That’s because it is extremely easy to get a gun. That isn’t strong gun control obviously.

Well, Lessee: Anyone choosing to moniker themselves after a Brain tells me you are actually probably dumber than a box of shoes. Most smug people are. So -100 synapse just for the arrogance.

"Extremely easy to get a gun." FACT: It is harder to get a gun now than ever in the history of the country. There are now over TWENTY-THOUSAND GUN LAWS in the USA. When I was a kid, we took our guns to school! Had them in the gun rack of our rear window! No problems then! Now you get expelled just for SAYING the word gun. Deduct another 20,000 synapse.

SO I DID A LITTLE DIGGING across a number of websites to uncover some facts:

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At the bottom, you can see the history of major gun legislation or actions taken to restrict gun ownership. The 19th century had triple that of the 18th century, restrictions in the 20th century went up by another 830%, and so far just 18 years into the new century, we have already had another 56% restrictions added on!

Meantime, gun shooting deaths in schools in the USA (I counted them) went from only 10 in the 18th century to 34 in the 19th century, then jumped to 282 deaths in the 20th century, and already, only into the 18th year of the new century, we are up to 255 deaths from guns shot in schools. That is over 90% the total for the 20th century.

WHAT CAN WE CONCLUDE?

School shootings and deaths have risen proportional to gun laws. One could almost argue that the gun laws are related to the killings! So obviously it isn't a lack of gun laws, restrictions or ease of access. Subtract another 25 million synapse for the Brain. If anything, there is most likely a direct or indirect link between school shootings and *population
*number of people in big cities
*degree of overcrowding
*size of classrooms
*preponderance of public school influence in child's life
*dwindling degree of parental / family influence in child's home life.

So subtract another 65 billion synapse. The Brain is comatose.

Put another way, lead pencils are far more available than guns, yet you don't see everyone grabbing a lead pencil and writing something with one, much less stabbing someone in the neck. Indeed, gun deaths have risen sharply proportional to the lack of familiarity, exposure, comfort and training in firearms, NOT their availability. Indeed, as we go back the centuries, years ago a gun was FAR MORE LIKELY to be a standard item on a person or in the household. And STILL, there weren't the killings of today.

There is no basis to blame school shootings on the availability of guns, lack of gun laws and regulations, except among the most imbecilic among us, and every reason to associate it with increased societal pressures living in large crowded cities combined with lack of training. Citing statistics from other countries is MEANINGLESS. It is a fool's errand to assume that what seems to have worked a certain way in another country with a completely different set of historical and cultural factors should work similar here. Considering that the top ten causes of death are:
Suicide: 43,000
Kidney Disease: 48,000
Flu and Pneumonia: 55,000
Diabetes: 76,000
Alzheimer's: 94,000
Stroke: 133,000
Accidents: 136,000
COPD: 147,000
Cancer: 592,000
Heart Disease: 614,000

In fact, I cannot even find a statistic for where school shooting deaths at 282 for all of the 20th century would even fit in as a stat! Maybe right below number of deaths caused by paper cut or stubbing ones toe?

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Firearms OVERALL of ALL KINDS doesn't even amount to more than a blip on the chart. WHICH MAKES IT ALL THE MORE TRAGIC THAT:
A). The Schools still can't seem to prevent them!
B). That so much media hyper-attention is focused on the matter as if this was even in the top 1,000 issues that we should be worried about as a NATIONAL CONCERN.

CONCLUSIONS: Those that make such a deal about guns and gun crimes in the USA as a function of the NRA, availability or lack of gun laws CLEARLY do so mainly out of total ignorance of the facts combined with a dislike and fear of guns and an untold desire just to see them totally banned from the law-biding populous.

School shootings are not a problem where there is strong gun control.

Like I said, we already have massively strong gun control, so you are saying that school shootings are not a problem!

Or maybe you just want total gun confiscation, and banning. News blip: if you don't like the USA and our freedoms, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

 

[Dr Grump]

Your ideas solve nothing, stupid people like you are all talk and no action... go back to your safe place

Actually they do. Since the Aussie gun ban in 1997 there have been no mass shootings.

 

[Lastamender]

Far more likely of getting a fair trial
Criminals do not get concealed carry do they? There is no correlation.

Yes criminals don’t seem to care if people are armed. In fact it seems to be an incentive for
criminals to be armed.

I see, most criminals will just ask politely for your money or your ass.

You have a point?

How do you connect concealed carry to violent crime? People vetted for that permit are not criminals, at least not on paper or data bank. What violent crime has one concealed carry person committed?

Many violent crimes.
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

What kind of crap is that?

 

[Rustic]

Well, Lessee: Anyone choosing to moniker themselves after a Brain tells me you are actually probably dumber than a box of shoes. Most smug people are. So -100 synapse just for the arrogance.

"Extremely easy to get a gun." FACT: It is harder to get a gun now than ever in the history of the country. There are now over TWENTY-THOUSAND GUN LAWS in the USA. When I was a kid, we took our guns to school! Had them in the gun rack of our rear window! No problems then! Now you get expelled just for SAYING the word gun. Deduct another 20,000 synapse.

SO I DID A LITTLE DIGGING across a number of websites to uncover some facts:

View attachment 173589


At the bottom, you can see the history of major gun legislation or actions taken to restrict gun ownership. The 19th century had triple that of the 18th century, restrictions in the 20th century went up by another 830%, and so far just 18 years into the new century, we have already had another 56% restrictions added on!

Meantime, gun shooting deaths in schools in the USA (I counted them) went from only 10 in the 18th century to 34 in the 19th century, then jumped to 282 deaths in the 20th century, and already, only into the 18th year of the new century, we are up to 255 deaths from guns shot in schools. That is over 90% the total for the 20th century.

WHAT CAN WE CONCLUDE?

School shootings and deaths have risen proportional to gun laws. One could almost argue that the gun laws are related to the killings! So obviously it isn't a lack of gun laws, restrictions or ease of access. Subtract another 25 million synapse for the Brain. If anything, there is most likely a direct or indirect link between school shootings and *population
*number of people in big cities
*degree of overcrowding
*size of classrooms
*preponderance of public school influence in child's life
*dwindling degree of parental / family influence in child's home life.

So subtract another 65 billion synapse. The Brain is comatose.

Put another way, lead pencils are far more available than guns, yet you don't see everyone grabbing a lead pencil and writing something with one, much less stabbing someone in the neck. Indeed, gun deaths have risen sharply proportional to the lack of familiarity, exposure, comfort and training in firearms, NOT their availability. Indeed, as we go back the centuries, years ago a gun was FAR MORE LIKELY to be a standard item on a person or in the household. And STILL, there weren't the killings of today.

There is no basis to blame school shootings on the availability of guns, lack of gun laws and regulations, except among the most imbecilic among us, and every reason to associate it with increased societal pressures living in large crowded cities combined with lack of training. Citing statistics from other countries is MEANINGLESS. It is a fool's errand to assume that what seems to have worked a certain way in another country with a completely different set of historical and cultural factors should work similar here. Considering that the top ten causes of death are:
Suicide: 43,000
Kidney Disease: 48,000
Flu and Pneumonia: 55,000
Diabetes: 76,000
Alzheimer's: 94,000
Stroke: 133,000
Accidents: 136,000
COPD: 147,000
Cancer: 592,000
Heart Disease: 614,000

In fact, I cannot even find a statistic for where school shooting deaths at 282 for all of the 20th century would even fit in as a stat! Maybe right below number of deaths caused by paper cut or stubbing ones toe?

View attachment 173593

Firearms OVERALL of ALL KINDS doesn't even amount to more than a blip on the chart. WHICH MAKES IT ALL THE MORE TRAGIC THAT:
A). The Schools still can't seem to prevent them!
B). That so much media hyper-attention is focused on the matter as if this was even in the top 1,000 issues that we should be worried about as a NATIONAL CONCERN.

CONCLUSIONS: Those that make such a deal about guns and gun crimes in the USA as a function of the NRA, availability or lack of gun laws CLEARLY do so mainly out of total ignorance of the facts combined with a dislike and fear of guns and an untold desire just to see them totally banned from the law-biding populous.

School shootings are not a problem where there is strong gun control.

Like I said, we already have massively strong gun control, so you are saying that school shootings are not a problem!

Or maybe you just want total gun confiscation, and banning. News blip: if you don't like the USA and our freedoms, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

 

[Brain357]

Yes criminals don’t seem to care if people are armed. In fact it seems to be an incentive for
criminals to be armed.

I see, most criminals will just ask politely for your money or your ass.

You have a point?

How do you connect concealed carry to violent crime? People vetted for that permit are not criminals, at least not on paper or data bank. What violent crime has one concealed carry person committed?

Many violent crimes.
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

What kind of crap is that?

It is documented cases of concealed carry owners committing violent crime obviously.

 

[Rustic]

Your ideas solve nothing, stupid people like you are all talk and no action... go back to your safe place

Actually they do. Since the Aussie gun ban in 1997 there have been no mass shootings.

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

 

[Brain357]

School shootings are not a problem where there is strong gun control.

Like I said, we already have massively strong gun control, so you are saying that school shootings are not a problem!

Or maybe you just want total gun confiscation, and banning. News blip: if you don't like the USA and our freedoms, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

 

[Rustic]

Like I said, we already have massively strong gun control, so you are saying that school shootings are not a problem!

Or maybe you just want total gun confiscation, and banning. News blip: if you don't like the USA and our freedoms, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

 

[Brain357]

Your ideas solve nothing, stupid people like you are all talk and no action... go back to your safe place

Actually they do. Since the Aussie gun ban in 1997 there have been no mass shootings.

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

 

[Brain357]

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

You have a link that criminals are progressives? Please share.

 

[Rustic]

Your ideas solve nothing, stupid people like you are all talk and no action... go back to your safe place

Actually they do. Since the Aussie gun ban in 1997 there have been no mass shootings.

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

Urban areas have the strictest gun control in this country, and the most violence... see the correlation. Lol

 

[bodecea]

School shootings are not a problem where there is strong gun control.

Like I said, we already have massively strong gun control, so you are saying that school shootings are not a problem!

Or maybe you just want total gun confiscation, and banning. News blip: if you don't like the USA and our freedoms, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

I see...the school shooting the other day was in a "strict gun control laws violent crime" area?

 

[Rustic]

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

You have a link that criminals are progressives? Please share.

Progressives make up the vast majority of the population in urban areas and that’s where the violent crime is… See the correlation?

 

[Brain357]

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

You have a link that criminals are progressives? Please share.

Progressives make up the vast majority of the population in urban areas and that’s where the violent crime is… See the correlation?

Link?

 

[Brain357]

Your ideas solve nothing, stupid people like you are all talk and no action... go back to your safe place

Actually they do. Since the Aussie gun ban in 1997 there have been no mass shootings.

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

Urban areas have the strictest gun control in this country, and the most violence... see the correlation. Lol

They have the people. And it’s easy to get guns, even kids do it.

 

[Auld Phart]

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

You have a link that criminals are progressives? Please share.

Progressives make up the vast majority of the population in urban areas and that’s where the violent crime is… See the correlation?

Why are you arguing with a parrot?

You can't change his mind, and you may have noticed he keeps repeating the same tired lines.

 

[Rustic]

Like I said, we already have massively strong gun control, so you are saying that school shootings are not a problem!

Or maybe you just want total gun confiscation, and banning. News blip: if you don't like the USA and our freedoms, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If we did it wouldn’t be easy for kids to get guns. Our gun control is obviously weak.

Criminals do not obey laws shit for brains

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

I see...the school shooting the other day was in a "strict gun control laws violent crime" area?

Yes, strict gun control makes for high violent areas... see map
The blue areas.

 

[Rustic]

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

You have a link that criminals are progressives? Please share.

Progressives make up the vast majority of the population in urban areas and that’s where the violent crime is… See the correlation?

Why are you arguing with a parrot?

You can't change his mind, and you may have noticed he keeps repeating the same tired lines.

I find it amusing...

 

[Rustic]

In rural America they are not a problem either, it’s only in progressive controlled with strict gun control laws violent crime is high... fact
There are much more dangerous things then a firearms in this country...
take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America

Yes criminals like areas with lots of people to steal from. Go figure.

Yes progressives are a violent bunch

You have a link that criminals are progressives? Please share.

Progressives make up the vast majority of the population in urban areas and that’s where the violent crime is… See the correlation?

Link?

 

[Rustic]

Your ideas solve nothing, stupid people like you are all talk and no action... go back to your safe place

Actually they do. Since the Aussie gun ban in 1997 there have been no mass shootings.

Gun control does not solve anything, criminal control is where the problem lies.

School shootings aren’t a problem in countries with strong gun control. Fact

Urban areas have the strictest gun control in this country, and the most violence... see the correlation. Lol

They have the people. And it’s easy to get guns, even kids do it.

Yes, people kill people not firearms. And criminals do not obey laws. So stricter frivolous gun laws make no sense and are pointless