Gays commit suicide more often... why?

They are mentally ill. Nothing they do fixes them. It isn't lack of acceptance. Elton John is certainly accepted. Acceptance gave him millions of dollars and he tried to commit suicide.

The stats tell the same story in places like the Netherlands, so yes, it's not 'lack of acceptance'; sociopaths aren't afected by that like other people are. They know they're sick, and their subculture is a nasty bigoted venal shit show. 'Old age' hits faggot culture around 30, and rejection by their own 'community' sets in.
 
Why would their conscious tell them that being attracted to and loving somebody of the same sex is wrong??

Rubbish. They aren't 'looking for love', they're just looking for perverted sex. It's a fetish. They might pair up occasionally, but usually just temporary and just partnering up for multiple sex parties.

Examples of a couple of 'married' groomers working over a 13 year old and killing him in the process. Their claim in court was 'but but he liked it!!!' They really thought that made them innocent of murder, such is how sick in the head they are.


The following is a facsimile of the Rogers, Ark., police affidavit of probable cause against the
men who would ultimately be convicted of murdering Jesse Dirkhising: Davis Don Carpenter
and Joshua Macave Brown:



IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF BENTON COUNTY, ARKANSAS
AFFIDAVIT OF PROBABLE CAUSE TO OBTAIN BAIL
STATE OF ARKANSAS PLAINTIFF
VS
DAVIS DON CARPENTER DEFENDANT
W/M, DOB: 08-02-61
&
JOSHUA MACAVE BROWN DEFENDANT
W/M, DOB: 6-7-77
FACTS CONSTITUTING PROBABLE CAUSE



Comes now Detective Sergeant Terry Woodside of the Rogers Police Department Criminal
Investigation Division, and under oath doth state:



After extensive investigation, on September 26, 1999, the Defendant, Joshua Macave Brown,
DOB: 6-7-77, was arrested on the charges of Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, and Rape, Class Y
Felony (6 COUNTS). Defendant Davis Don Carpenter, DOB: 8-2-61, was arrested on September
26th, 1999 at approximately 7:45 p.m., on the charges of Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, and
Rape, Class Y Felony (6 COUNTS).



The records of the Rogers Police Department reflect that on Sunday, September 26th, 1999, at
0453 hours, Patrolman Ian Smith and Patrolman Jason Curry responded to 1207 West Sunset
Drive to assist an ambulance crew of the Rogers Fire Department regarding a call for medical
assistance. Upon their arrival, Davis Don Carpenter, 38 years of age, and a resident of 1207 West
Sunset Drive contacted them. Carpenter seemed very upset and repeatedly said, “He’s not
breathing”. Carpenter let the officers into the apartment and to the northwest bedroom. Another
male subject, Joshua (Josh) Brown, 22 years of age, was standing in the hallway, completely
naked, holding a flashlight and a telephone. The officers observed a young, naked male subject,
later identified as Jesse Dirkhising (aka: Jesse Yates), thirteen years of age (DOB: 5-24-86), on
the floor in the middle of the room, next to a mattress. Dirkhising’s genitals and abdomen were
covered with what appeared to be feces. Dirkhising’s mouth was blue, he had a weak pulse, but
he did not appear to be breathing. Patrolman Smith also observed that Dirkhising had masking or
duct tape wrapped around his right hand. When Josh Brown was asked about the tape, he replied
that they were just playing a game. An empty prescription bottle was observed on the mattress.
In addition, Patrolman Smith observed some pills and a razor blade on a mirror at the front
entrance, which appeared to be controlled substances and drug paraphernalia.



Rogers Fire Department Paramedics transported Dirkhising to St. Mary’s Hospital emergency
room, where he was pronounced dead at 0532 hours.



During preliminary questioning at the scene, Josh Brown assaulted Corporal Rick Simmons, and
was placed under arrest. While being questioned by Detective Martha Armstrong after being
Mirandized, Josh Brown stated that he was Davis Carpenter’s lover. Brown also said that he
(Brown) and Dirkhising frequently tie each other up, although not for sexual purposes. Brown
stated that on this occasion he snuck up on Dirkhising, tied his hands behind his back, placed a
pair of underwear in Dirkhising’s mouth and secured them with a bandana and duct tape. He
placed a bandana over Dirkhising’s eyes and secured it in place with duct tape. He then placed a
tee shirt over Dirkhising’s head, and checked to ensure that Dirkhising’s nostrils were not
covered. He placed belts around Dirkhising’s knees and ankles to hold his legs together. Brown
then untied Dirkhising’s wrists and secured them to opposite sides of the mattress. He positioned
Dirkhising on his stomach, placing pillows under his stomach. Brown then proceeded to
penetrate Dirkhising’s anus with various items, including three (3) fingers of his hand, his penis,
a cucumber, a sausage, a banana and a douche bottle. Brown stated at one point he prepared and
administered an enema for the victim, using his own urine as the liquid. Brown then positioned a
cucumber so that it was slightly penetrating Dirkhising’s anus, and secured it with tape. He then
went to the kitchen, where he ate a sandwich before returning to the bedroom. Upon his return,
he found that Dirkhising was apparently not breathing. Brown pulled the tee shirt off
Dirkhising’s head, cut the tape and bandanas away, removed the underwear from Dirkhising’s
mouth and contacted Carpenter. Brown also guessed Dirkhising to be thirteen or fourteen years
old.



Carpenter told officers that Brown woke him up and told him there was a problem with
Dirkhising. Carpenter found Dirkhising lying on the bedroom floor with his hands bound with
tape. He cut the tape and attempted to administer CPR before calling 9-1-1.



Det. Jarod Mason interviewed Paula McVey, the grandmother of Jesse Dirkhising (aka: Jesse
Yates). Ms. McVey stated that Davis Carpenter was a friend of Jesse Dirkhising’s mother and
stepfather, who live in Prairie Grove. She stated that for the last two or three months, Dirkhising
had been coming from Prairie Grove to Rogers to stay with Carpenter on the weekends. She
related that she was under the impression that Dirkhising had been earning money during those
weekends by working for Carpenter at the hairstyling shop where Carpenter worked. She stated
that Carpenter had a younger male lover who lived with him.



A search warrant for 1207 West Sunset Drive, Davis Carpenter’s residence, was executed by
detectives of the Rogers Police Department. During the search of the residence, Detectives
recovered numerous small green pills, from the living room and bedroom, various bottles of
prescription medicine, including the controlled substance amitryptiline, a known heavy sedative
commonly used to treat depression. Also located in the living room, were a mirror with several
of the green pills, and a small quantity of off white colored powder suspected to be
methamphetaminc. Numerous items of evidence were recovered from the bedroom, including
two cucumbers, one of which was covered with what appeared to be petroleum jelly, the other
having what appeared to be fecal matter on it. Also located in the bedroom was a tube-shaped
sausage, as well as a crushed banana. A plastic disposable douche bottle with the applicator
secured in place with duct tape was found amongst numerous items used in bondage. The
bondage items included numerous belts, large quantities of duct tape and strapping tape,
handcuffs, nylon rope, what appeared to be a rubber jumprope, and electrical cord. Detectives
located a mass of items which included used duct tape, what appeared to be a shirt, a pair of
men’s brief underwear, and a bandana, which, according to a statement by Defendant Josh
Brown, were used to gag and blindfold the victim during the rape. Numerous containers of
petroleum jelly were found throughout the residence.



In the living room, detectives discovered a computer and related equipment that was still
running. When the monitor was turned on, a program entitled “Medical Drug Reference 4.0” was
running on the computer.



The search also revealed a piece of paper on which a note was written to “Baby.” (Investigation
has revealed that Carpenter refers to Brown as “Baby.”) In the upper right hand of the note are
listed three types of prescription pills.



The text of the note refers to making a male (“him”) take “those pills.” It then refers to
positioning pillows beneath the male in a certain way. A different portion of the same piece of
paper says to tell “him” not to fight or else for the next “14 hours” he will be sexually assaulted.
The search also revealed another note, addressed to an unnamed person, which refers to a piece
of meat being inserted in that person’s anus. The note also refers to “Davis” engaging in sexual
intercourse with “you blindfolded on pills.” There is also a note addressed to “Baby” that refers
to “duct tape in place.”
The search further revealed a hand-drawn diagram depicting a person on a bed.
There are notations that refer to pillows, “tape all the way around,” “face down,” the buttocks of
the person “raised app. 2 feet.” Another note was found in the kitchen area addressed to “baby”,
and states “could cause serious damage-back to 3” sticking out and duct tape in place.”
The search also revealed a five-page letter addressed “Hey Baby.” The letter is signed by
“Davie.” In the letter, “Davie” describes seeing “Baby’s” “little 10 year old blond whore” at her
bus stop in the morning. “Davie” graphically describes how he can envision “Baby” engaging in
various sexual acts with her.



The search also revealed handwritten texts on a legal pad. In those texts, the writer describes a
man making a “fine crushed white powder” from “the small oddly purple colored pill.” The
writer describes him cutting the pill in ¼ sections so that he would have “enough to do this again
in 4 hours or so, if he needed (or wanted!).” He then describes the man giving a nine year old girl
a glass of milk with the pill powder mixed in. The writer then writes of the man laughing out
loud “knowing in 20 minutes the pill dust he’d added would render her helpless and drunk…” He
then describes in detail the man having the girl first masturbate and then perform oral sex on
him.



Also found on the kitchen table was a receipt from the Price Cutter Food Warehouse dated
September 26, 1999, at ‘0307’ hours. Items purchased on the receipt included tape for $3.18,
“Eckrich” for $2.50, two cucumbers for $1.00 and “meat dept.” for $2.61. A package containing
one sausage was found in the refrigerator and was labeled “Eckrich.” The sausage found in the
package was consistent in appearance with the sausage found in the bedroom.
A detailed interview was conducted at the Rogers Police Department with defendant Josh Brown
on September 27th, 1999 by Detective Sergeant Hayes Minor. Brown told Sgt. Minor that he and
the victim had been sexually involved for approximately two months. Brown described the
sexual acts as “games” and “playing: with the victim. He said that the morning of the victim’s
death, he had performed anal sex on the victim for the first time. In sex acts up until this point,
Brown said his penis had never penetrated the victim’s anus. Brown told Sgt. Minor that on this
occasion he used his fingers, his penis, a cucumber, a sausage, a banana and a douche bottle to
anally penetrate the victim while the victim was immobile due to the bindings.
Brown was questioned about Carpenter’s involvement during the rape and told Sgt. Minor that
Carpenter stood in the doorway of the bedroom, naked, and watched Brown and the victim while
he (Carpenter) masturbated. Brown was also asked about the notes that were found in the
residence. When asked about the note found in the kitchen addressed to “Baby” and stating
“Could cause serious damage-back to 3” sticking out and duct tape in place”, Brown stated that
as he was using the cucumber to penetrate the victim’s anus, Carpenter stood in the doorway
trying to get his (Brown’s) attention without having to speak. When Brown walked to Carpenter,
Carpenter showed him the note indicating that he should not put the entire cucumber in the
victim’s anus as it may harm him. Brown stated he returned to the victim and duct taped the
cucumber in place as it penetrated the victim’s anus approximately one half inch.
Brown was also shown the diagram that depicts a person bound to a bed, much the same way
Brown described the victim. He stated that the drawing was completed by Carpenter on a much
earlier date. When asked about Carpenter’s knowledge of Brown’s and the victim’s sexual
activities, Brown stated that Carpenter had walked in on the two in the past. After that occasion,
Brown stated that he and Carpenter talked about Carpenter watching as the victim and Brown
participated in sexual acts.
Brown was also questioned about the receipt he found in the residence from the Price Cutter
Food Warehouse dated September 26th, 1999, at 0307 hours. Brown told Sgt. Minor that
Carpenter had gone to the store alone and purchased the items, some of which were used during
the rape of the victim.
On September 27th, 1999, an autopsy was conducted on the victim by the Arkansas State
Medical Examiner. Preliminary results of the autopsy indicate the victim died of “positional
asphyxia.”
A check of Davis Carpenter’s prior record shows no known prior convictions at this time. During
conversations held with Det. Sgt. Minor, Carpenter stated that he had lived in 26 different states,
and knew people in all 50 states.
Carpenter apparently has limited family in Springdale, Arkansas, but has lived out of state on
numerous occasions. Further investigation revealed that in the past two years, Carpenter and
Brown have lived in at least three different states, including Florida. A records check of Joshua
Brown reveals no known prior convictions. Joshua Brown also has no known ties to the
Northwest Arkansas area.
Based on the seriousness of the offense, the substantial likelihood of conviction, the nature of the
penalty that may be imposed, and the substantial risk of flight, the State joins me in requesting
that the Defendants, Davis Don Carpenter, DOB:08-02-61, and Joshua Macave Brown, DOB: 6-
7-77, be held without bond for the offenses of Capital Murder, Class Y Felony, Arkansas Code
Annotated 5-10-101; and Rape, Class Y Felony (6 COUNTS), Arkansas Code Annotated 5-14-
103.
Det. Sgt. Terry Woodside
Rogers Police Department
212 West Elm Street
Rogers, Arkansas 72756
STATE OF ARKANSAS
COUNTY OF BENTON
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 27th day of September, 1999
Kathryn McMath
NOTARY PUBLIC
 
Who cares about why they do it, unless there is a way we can encourage the liberal ones to do so more often.
 
Maybe loneliness?

In the gay world, being young and attractive is the top priority.

When a gay man becomes older, his prospects of being attractive to others declines markedly.

I once read about a male movie star's lover. After the movie star died, his lover said that there was no longer any reason for him to live. Being middle-aged, he may have felt that he could not attract another gay lover. Or maybe he missed his movie star companion so much that he could not continue without him,
 
me and my bro's! we don't look sad and depressed, do we?

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I haven't read all the info here but read the statistics, about how young gays are 3 times more likely to end hteir lives than straights.

I tend to think that site leans liberal but too soon to tell. If so, they will likely say that it is society's lack of acceptance of their "lifestyle" that makes them think of ending it all

I say it is because they are doing something their conscience tells them is wrong.. and going against your conscience is never somehting that ends well, obviously

I'd guess dealing with life is difficult enough without a***holes attacking you for being what you are.
 
Bet you would love a massage from a couple of bb's bros.
Guess it's the usual story of those that shout loudest publicly being the private swingers .

I wondered if the" x" at the end of your avatar was code for ," I'm waiting for you*

Our sweet little Micky with the tricky dicky.
Like I say all leftists are faggots. Lying faggots.
 

I haven't read all the info here but read the statistics, about how young gays are 3 times more likely to end hteir lives than straights.

I tend to think that site leans liberal but too soon to tell. If so, they will likely say that it is society's lack of acceptance of their "lifestyle" that makes them think of ending it all

I say it is because they are doing something their conscience tells them is wrong.. and going against your conscience is never somehting that ends well, obviously
Gays are not 3x more likely. That stat is for LGBTQIA+, which includes transsexuals, who suffer from a condition that used to be defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders as gender identity disorder and is now called gender dsyphoria (don't want to label people's disorders as disorders). They have always had very high rates of suicide. The terrible thing about this push to normalize this crap is that they don't get the treatment they need. Like all liberal solutions, they make the situation worse.
 
Rubbish. They aren't 'looking for love', they're just looking for perverted sex. It's a fetish. They might pair up occasionally, but usually just temporary and just partnering up for multiple sex parties
For you to assume to know what another person feels is straight up ignorance. But I guess that’s what you operate on.
 
I agree but that holds true for ANY behavior that troubles our conscience. My religious faith tells me that homosexuality is an abomination, but it also warns me that it is not my place, EVER, to set myself as judge over my neighbor. If I do, the Lord promises I will be judged by the same standard.

I'm an alcoholic in recovery, last drink was 11 years ago, but at that time, I actually attempted suicide. Had the means I chose been slightly different, I'd have succeeded. That night/morning was the single worst point in my life. I was drinking at a volume that, when stopped suddenly, totally, without any medical supervision and appropriate medicines, can easily lead to seizures and death. I was spared and I've thanked God every day since then.

I can only vaguely imagine the mental torment one would suffer if they truly believed they were born in the wrong body or were cut off from God because of their sexual desire being unlike the great majority of their peers.
No disrespect but maybe you could help initiate a transgenders anonymous organization.
What’s more, it’s pretty selfish to want to make the rest of the world bend to one’s anomalous condition ifthe world is not hurting a transgender in the process.
 
For you to assume to know what another person feels is straight up ignorance. But I guess that’s what you operate on.

No, I operate on studies that focus on what faggots themselves say about being faggots. It sucks for you shills and frauds that there are such things available, so you need all those strawmen and dumbass psychobabble gimmicks. It's your own ignorance that bothers you. You're just narcissists who like LARPing as 'Progressives N Stuff', patting yourselves on the back for being so 'enlightened n stuff'. It's just another pseudo-intellectual fad for fashion victims and useful idiots.
 
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Why? Because they aren't right in the head to begin with. A small percent of gays might be mentally sound but the majority of them are not, that's why they are gay.

It's like people talk about how trannies need mental health treatment to be happier trannies, they have issues because of transphobia and so on. No, they are messed up in the head. Who actually believes someone that thinks they are the opposite sex they were born as is the picture of mental hygiene?

For most gays and trannies being, most are either young and stupid that buy into them like a fashion trend, the others are older wanting a sexual perversity. No middle aged person ever suddenly becomes gay or a tranny. It either starts when they are teenagers, or much older.

I'd say 65% of gays have mental problems and 90% of trannies have mental problems. That's why they are gay and trannies, it's a symptom of their mental illness.
 
(don't want to label people's disorders as disorders)

And this is why pandering to their propaganda peddlers has done a lot more harm than good for the fetishists; nobody is doing any serious research on them, instead they make up fake 'science' in order to perpetuate the harm and criminal tendencies, peddling it as 'tolerance' and 'sympathy'. Pandering to them serves other peoples' own purposes, usually just another front in the culture war. And now that 'tolerance' has led to active grooming of little kids by freak shows and deviants; the last place these freaks want to keep their filthy fetishes is in the privacy of their bedrooms.
 
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