JakeStarkey
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Yes, they all endorsed it until they realized what a fuck it proved to be.
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The last 11 years have been filled with hard learning. The 2003 invasion of Iraq, the worst foreign policy decision in U.S. history, coincided with mission creep (“nation building”) in Afghanistan.
George Will A Republican rethinking of foreign policy New Hampshire Columns
He ends this rebuke of Bush 43 with this "Obama is right that there is much to rethink."
The Obama haters on the USMB would be well advised to learn how to think.
Is Rand Paul really gong to replace McCain and Graham as the GOP's new face of foreign and military policy that veers closer to the isolationist policy of his father?
Many events (U.S. military misadventures since 2001, the Syrian civil war, the rise of the Islamic State, the spinning centrifuges of Iran’s nuclear weapons program) and one senator (Rand Paul) have reopened a Republican debate that essentially closed when Dwight Eisenhower won the 1952 Republican presidential nomination. One reason he sought it was to block Ohio’s Sen. Robert Taft..
This is more indication that it was not a failure or mistake to abide by the terms of the 2008 Bush Maliki SOFA when Obama presided over the end of the war that truly was the worst foreign policy decision in U.S. history.
The unfinished business in iraq still confuses witless progressives...
Iraqi army soldiers gain full control of oil-rich BaijiIraqi army troops chant slogans against ISIL as they recruit volunteers to join the fight against the Takfiri terrorist group in northern Iraq. (File photo)
Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:17PM GMT
Iraqi troops battling the ISIL Takfiri militants have accomplished their mop-up operation in the strategic northern city of Baiji, which is home to the country’s largest oil refinery.
On Friday, Iraqi forces backed by volunteer forces established security and stability in the oil-rich city, located some 210 kilometers (130 miles) north of the capital, Baghdad, following its liberation from the ISIL terrorists days earlier.
I guess G Will forgot about Vietnam!
Yes, they all endorsed it until they realized what a fuck it proved to be.
STTA 10169177I guess G Will forgot about Vietnam!
Not really. Vietnam was deadlier in terms of loss of Anerican lives overall but it was not one president's decision to rapidly invade over an issue that had a peaceful means of resolving in progress at the time of the invasion
Well, that's a nutty post. But I have always believed the Diem family put a hit on Kennedy for not protecting the brothers from assassination.
The uber-lefty obama undermined the efforts and successes of the Bush-era in Iraq
Saddam was executed.In a conventional war, you win if the other side surrenders.
How do we know who won or lost what ?
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."The uber-lefty obama undermined the efforts and successes of the Bush-era in Iraq
How did Obama undermine the efforts? Did he sneak in and steal all the WMD that Bush said was hidden from the 2003 inspectors?
Bush is the prime operator for making Iraq happen
If only the inspectors had more time !!! Lol
You're a shill. Removing our military presence in the name of playing 1968 left the door open for the resurgence of anti-west islimism.The uber-lefty obama undermined the efforts and successes of the Bush-era in Iraq
How did Obama undermine the efforts? Did he sneak in and steal all the WMD that Bush said was hidden from the 2003 inspectors?
And the result of WW2 was the rise of the Soviet Union an the Cold War. THe result of that was the rise of Islamic terrorism
Who voted to authorize force in Iraq October 2002?
Posted: 12/31/1969 7:00 pm EST Updated: 05/25/2011 12:25 pm EDT
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Which U.S. Senators voted for the resolution that authorized the use of force in Iraq? 29 Democratic US Senators, and all but one (R-RI, Chafee) Republican. The full roll call on H.J.Res. 114, 107th Congress, A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq, is here. The vote count was YEAs 77, NAYs 23.
Below is a list of the Democrat Senators who vote YEA. I wish everyone voted NAY, but note that, in additional to Hillary, a number of very good people voted YEA at the time. Obama did not vote on the resolution, because he was a member of the Illinois State Senate, rather than the U.S. Senate, at the time. Congressman Jim McGovern, a leading critic of the Iraq war, recently discussed Obama's 2004 comments on the Iraq war in this Huffington Post blog, which includes this 2004 Obama quote "I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don't know." I think that was an honest answer.
Here are the Democratic Senators who voted YEA on October 2002.
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carnahan (D-MO), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Cleland (D-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Edwards (D-NC), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Miller (D-GA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Torricelli (D-NJ), Yea
looks like the V.P. agreed with GWB as well as Clinton, Reid, etc,, Kerry too.
Will has never understood Iraq....that's okay, he doesn't know much about baseball either. ABC threw him out because he's like Peggy Noonan wearing a bow tie...self-absorbed and boring. Few leftists will ever get over Iraq which is weird because none of them had the guts to go there, right or wrong. Same as our era dirtbags...they wanted Vietnam lost to prove everybody else wrong. It's what they were taught by fellow travelers in the public schools....if we ever intend this Nation to be anything but a sodomite sewer again, the schools must be closed, boarded up, every teacher and admin fired...have a national debate about what we want future children taught and by whom before those schools reopen the doors.
we are of the same generation, 58,000 americans died in viet nam for NOTHING. When will we learn that lesson?
For nothing? If you're a Viet Vet I feel sorry for you for saying that. If not, STFU. What could have been accomplished will never be known because we weren't allowed to chase Nathan home after Tet when we could have. I believe Thailand was saved. I believe the dominoes stopped falling thanks to us....I believe we learned that conscripting citizens wouldn't work anymore. I believe we got better at fighting asymmetrical warfare there from what we first learned fighting the japs in the Pacific. I believe we set the stage for the chinese and Viets to hate each other's guts for another century. I believe we groomed an officer corps that went on to win Desert Storm while the russians wathced their client state disassembled without a peep out of them. I believe that our time there influenced the Viets toward our culture...they're great gamblers and love to have their own businesses, Maybe we did win the Vietnam War.....like everything in the orient....things sometimes take a couple generations to stick.