Global Warming Predictions That HAUNT Liberals / Global Warming Nuts

[jc456]

Here is Hansens' statement to the Senate in 1988. Something is missing......oh yeah, what you claim.

http://climatechange.procon.org/sourcefiles/1988_Hansen_Senate_Testimony.pdf

I think it was a question, and the questions aren't in this link. So oops.

 

[mamooth]

Oh? You didn't say this?

So, when called out on your big lie, you double down on it. And no one is surprised.

I said "static pressure absolutely positively does not create heat."

You claimed I said "atmospheric pressure has no effect on temperature."

The two statements are entirely different. Frank is stupid enough not to understand that, but you're not. You're simply lying about me, loudly and proudly, and you don't care who knows it. Like most cultists, attacking the enemies of the cult is your only concern now, with truth being collateral damage in your war.

 

[jillian]

PREDICTION 1: June 1988 NASA's Jim Hansen says before Congress "That the West Side Highway in New York City will be underwater in 20-40 years."

REALITY: We're 23 years into this prediction and sea levels have risen 2.5" since then...only about 10 feet to go before the West Side Highway goes underwater. At the current pace we're about 1,200 years away.


PREDICTION 2: 12 October 2007 Al Gore said with apocalyptic certainty while accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, "The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff; 'It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now!" We all can point to thousands of media stories on this topic so Al has some company on this scientific propaganda.

REALITY: It's now 7 years later and what do we have? 76% bigger ice coverage and thickness than just two years ago, 35% BIGGER than 2007 when Gore spoke from the pulpit.


PREDICTION 3: Hurricanes numbers are increasing and getting stronger.

REALITY: The scary truth is Global and Atlantic basin hurricane activity and intensity has been plummeting for years and now at 50 year lows globally and 30 year lows in the Atlantic.


PREDICTION 4: Snow and frost will disappear. Same group as point 3 but there are hundreds of scientists who made this claim over the past 20 years.

REALITY: As soon as the 30-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) cycle started it's cold phase in 2007 we've seen a wholesale change in the severity of cold/snowy Winters the past 7 years. Cold Pacific Ocean - cold snowy planet with 4 of the past 7 winters the snowiest on record based on NOAA/NASA measurements that started in the late 1960s.


PREDICTION 6: Global temperatures will be +0.8C to +1.8C above average by 2014 made by 74 IPCC UN Climate Models in 2005 - just 9 years ago and they were completely and utterly wrong and not one predicted the continued 17 years pause in global temperatures.

REALITY: They all get F and time to go back to the drawing board to figure out why! Last year July, all 90 IPCC climate models were completely wrong as the global temperature remained flat for 16 straight years - not one predicted the pause with the current temp below the 100% guarantee it won't be this temp.


PREDICTION 7: Tornadoes are getting more frequent, greater numbers and much stronger.

REALITY: According to the severe storms forecast center, the actual number of violent monster F3 tornadoes has actually been decreasing.

LINK: 10 Predictions vs Reality and the Winter 2014-2015 Hype - Blog - weathertrends360

nobody is haunted, troll. but thanks for the link from the rightwingnut blogosphere.

science deniers are funny. and by funny I mean really stupid.

 

[easyt65]

science deniers are funny. and by funny I mean really stupid.

WHAT SCIENCE? From NOA to NASA, every bit of the 'science' Global Warmists have based their 'cult' on has been debunked, as proven. In 2008 these nut jobs declared NYC would be under water in 2015 due to the ice melting....Ummmm...WRONG.

Jill, let's do a basic high school experiment:

Fill a glass a glass completely to the rim with ice....then fill the glass up with water - all the way to the rim. As the ice melts, does the glass over-flow? No, NO IT DOESN'T!

NO! That's basic common sense to begin with, but it has also been proven in high school classes all over America...which means THERE ARE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ALL OVER THE US THAT ARE SMARTER THAN GLBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh? You didn't say this?

So, when called out on your big lie, you double down on it. And no one is surprised.

I said "static pressure absolutely positively does not create heat."

You claimed I said "atmospheric pressure has no effect on temperature."

The two statements are entirely different. Frank is stupid enough not to understand that, but you're not. You're simply lying about me, loudly and proudly, and you don't care who knows it. Like most cultists, attacking the enemies of the cult is your only concern now, with truth being collateral damage in your war.

Are heat and temperature unrelated concepts? Does Venus have Static atmospheric pressure?

 

[mamooth]

WHAT SCIENCE? From NOA to NASA, every bit of the 'science' Global Warmists have based their 'cult' on has been debunked, as proven. In 2008 these nut jobs declared NYC would be under water in 2015 due to the ice melting...

No, they didn't. You're repeating a big ol' lie. You didn't know it was a lie, of course, as you never question any of the lies that your masters feed you.

Everyone outside of your cult knows full well you're repeating lies, about that supposed prediction and about every climate prediction. For over 50 years, the climate predictions have been excellent, which is why climate science has such credibility. You can keep repeating all your standard cult mantras, but most everyone on the planet knows you're jabbering nonsense, hence nobody pays attention to you. So, learn to enjoy the irrelevance you're spent so many years working to obtain. The world has moved on without you.

Jill, let's do a basic high school experiment:

Fill a glass a glass completely to the rim with ice....then fill the glass up with water - all the way to the rim. As the ice melts, does the glass over-flow? No, NO IT DOESN'T!

NO! That's basic common sense to begin with, but it has also been proven in high school classes all over America...which means THERE ARE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ALL OVER THE US THAT ARE SMARTER THAN GLBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS!

Wow. You actually fail to understand that many ice sheets and glaciers rest on land, or that water expands as it warms. An average second grader can grasp such things, but you can't. That explains why you got sucked into the denier scam. Most deniers are rather slow, which makes them easy prey for cults.

 

[easyt65]

No, they didn't. You're repeating a big ol' lie. You didn't know it was a lie, of course, as you never question any of the lies that your masters feed you.

I stopped reading after this, claiming no one said back in 2008 Manhattan would be under water, because it proved you have no idea what you are talking about...

FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

 

[mamooth]

Are heat and temperature unrelated concepts?

Uh oh. Are you babbling about "excess heat" again?

Does Venus have Static atmospheric pressure?

I have no interest in your chickenshit games. If you have a point to make, then locate your balls and just state it clearly and directly.

 

[mamooth]

I stopped reading after this, claiming no one said back in 2008 Manhattan would be under water, because it proved you have no idea what you are talking about...

FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

That you prefer to get your "science" from the hysteria of Bob Woodruff and the rest of the conservative media crowd at the very conservative ABC, that's your problem. I go with actual scientists, and no climate scientists said the crazy things that ABC reported.

 

[easyt65]

That you prefer to get your "science" from the hysteria of Bob Woodruff and the rest of the conservative media crowd at the very conservative ABC, that's your problem. I go with actual scientists, and no climate scientists said the crazy things that ABC reported.

You said no one said that - I proved you wrong.
No, LIBERALS spew crap like this based on NO SCIENCE to back it up... THAT is the point!. (And when did ABC become 'Conservative'? When they get caught saying stupid shite like this?)

 

[mamooth]

You said no one said that - I proved you wrong.

No, I never said or implied "no one said that".

Given my words are right up there for anyone to see, it's not very smart of you to lie about my words like that. Your credibility is destroyed, so my work here is done.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Are heat and temperature unrelated concepts?

Uh oh. Are you babbling about "excess heat again"?

Does Venus have Static atmospheric pressure?

I have no interest in your chickenshit games. If you have a point to make, then locate your balls and just state it clearly and directly.

Were you unaware that "Excess heat" was the bedrock upon which AR5 is based?

 

[jc456]

Given your level of credibility, a link is in order. In context.

Anyone who thinks AGW is real, should have zero credibility...in a sane nation.

Anyone that ignores what nearly the totality of the scientists involved in the study of atmosphere and climate state, is an ignorant ass. Especially when they think the know much more than these scientists with just a GED to show for education.

Virtually every Scientific Society, every Academy of Science , and every major University in the world had policy statements that state that AGW is real and a clear and present danger.

Virtually every Scientific Society, every Academy of Science , and every major University in the world had policy statements that state that AGW is real and a clear and present danger

prove it. Post up those statements.

 

[jc456]

WHAT SCIENCE? From NOA to NASA, every bit of the 'science' Global Warmists have based their 'cult' on has been debunked, as proven. In 2008 these nut jobs declared NYC would be under water in 2015 due to the ice melting...

No, they didn't. You're repeating a big ol' lie. You didn't know it was a lie, of course, as you never question any of the lies that your masters feed you.

Everyone outside of your cult knows full well you're repeating lies, about that supposed prediction and about every climate prediction. For over 50 years, the climate predictions have been excellent, which is why climate science has such credibility. You can keep repeating all your standard cult mantras, but most everyone on the planet knows you're jabbering nonsense, hence nobody pays attention to you. So, learn to enjoy the irrelevance you're spent so many years working to obtain. The world has moved on without you.

Jill, let's do a basic high school experiment:

Fill a glass a glass completely to the rim with ice....then fill the glass up with water - all the way to the rim. As the ice melts, does the glass over-flow? No, NO IT DOESN'T!

NO! That's basic common sense to begin with, but it has also been proven in high school classes all over America...which means THERE ARE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ALL OVER THE US THAT ARE SMARTER THAN GLBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS!

Wow. You actually fail to understand that many ice sheets and glaciers rest on land, or that water expands as it warms. An average second grader can grasp such things, but you can't. That explains why you got sucked into the denier scam. Most deniers are rather slow, which makes them easy prey for cults.

hey tooth, can you post this nonsense some more? What is this like post 100 for this garbage? dude/dudette, you need to let it go, you're not going to change anyone's mind in here. especially with the same stale material over and over. Is it your ploy to try and wear us down by repeating the montra over and over and over again?

Dude/ dudette, I've asked you I can't even count now to provide one link, one that proves your stupid claim. And in two years, all I get is this same crappola over and over which proves only that you don't have a clue.

 

[Billy_Bob]

PREDICTION 1: June 1988 NASA's Jim Hansen says before Congress "That the West Side Highway in New York City will be underwater in 20-40 years."

REALITY: We're 23 years into this prediction and sea levels have risen 2.5" since then...only about 10 feet to go before the West Side Highway goes underwater. At the current pace we're about 1,200 years away.

Reality! Since you gave no link, going to call this a lie until you back it up with a link.


PREDICTION 2: 12 October 2007 Al Gore said with apocalyptic certainty while accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, "The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff; 'It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now!" We all can point to thousands of media stories on this topic so Al has some company on this scientific propaganda.

REALITY: It's now 7 years later and what do we have? 76% bigger ice coverage and thickness than just two years ago, 35% BIGGER than 2007 when Gore spoke from the pulpit.

Reality! Al Gore is a businessman, ex-politician, and a journalist by training. He should not have tried his hand at ice prediction. No more than you should be trying your hand at half-lies. The summer lows for the ice are very much lower than they were in 1979 when we first started getting accurate numbers from the satellites.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.area.arctic.png


PREDICTION 3: Hurricanes numbers are increasing and getting stronger.

REALITY: The scary truth is Global and Atlantic basin hurricane activity and intensity has been plummeting for years and now at 50 year lows globally and 30 year lows in the Atlantic.

Reality! Again, working with half-lies and outright lies. There is much variability in hurricane strength and numbers year to year. However, you have given numbers for the Atlantic, and ignored the record numbers of hurricanes in the Pacific. And the record intensity for some of those hurricanes. And the numbers will continue to vary, and every year that the are low, you will point this out, and ignore the years that they are very high. That is how liars work.


PREDICTION 4: Snow and frost will disappear. Same group as point 3 but there are hundreds of scientists who made this claim over the past 20 years.

REALITY: As soon as the 30-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) cycle started it's cold phase in 2007 we've seen a wholesale change in the severity of cold/snowy Winters the past 7 years. Cold Pacific Ocean - cold snowy planet with 4 of the past 7 winters the snowiest on record based on NOAA/NASA measurements that started in the late 1960s.

Reality. Outright lie, dumb fuck. One scientist made this prediction for England, not the whole world. And the average date for the first snowfall in the mountains has been getting later every decade for several decades now, worldwide. And the average date for the snow melt has been earlier in the spring every decade for several decades now.

Climate Change 2014 – Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability: Part A: Global and Sectoral Aspects: Volume 1, Global and Sectoral Aspects


PREDICTION 6: Global temperatures will be +0.8C to +1.8C above average by 2014 made by 74 IPCC UN Climate Models in 2005 - just 9 years ago and they were completely and utterly wrong and not one predicted the continued 17 years pause in global temperatures.

REALITY: They all get F and time to go back to the drawing board to figure out why! Last year July, all 90 IPCC climate models were completely wrong as the global temperature remained flat for 16 straight years - not one predicted the pause with the current temp below the 100% guarantee it won't be this temp.

Reality! Looks like 2015 is going to come in above +1 C. How can you be so stupid as to ignore what is happening right now?
Warming set to breach 1C threshold - BBC News



PREDICTION 7: Tornadoes are getting more frequent, greater numbers and much stronger.

REALITY: According to the severe storms forecast center, the actual number of violent monster F3 tornadoes has actually been decreasing.

Reality! OK, the number of F3 tornadoes has been diminishing. But the scale is F1, F2, F3, F4, and F5. F5 being the strongest. So why the specified F3? Maybe because the other numbers don't agree with your statement? Nice little half lie.

LINK: 10 Predictions vs Reality and the Winter 2014-2015 Hype - Blog - weathertrends360

"easyt65, post: 12925855, member: 55400"]PREDICTION 1: June 1988 NASA's Jim Hansen says before Congress "That the West Side Highway in New York City will be underwater in 20-40 years."

REALITY: We're 23 years into this prediction and sea levels have risen 2.5" since then...only about 10 feet to go before the West Side Highway goes underwater. At the current pace we're about 1,200 years away.

Reality! Since you gave no link, going to call this a lie until you back it up with a link.


PREDICTION 2: 12 October 2007 Al Gore said with apocalyptic certainty while accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, "The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff; 'It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now!" We all can point to thousands of media stories on this topic so Al has some company on this scientific propaganda.

REALITY: It's now 7 years later and what do we have? 76% bigger ice coverage and thickness than just two years ago, 35% BIGGER than 2007 when Gore spoke from the pulpit.

Reality! Al Gore is a businessman, ex-politician, and a journalist by training. He should not have tried his hand at ice prediction. No more than you should be trying your hand at half-lies. The summer lows for the ice are very much lower than they were in 1979 when we first started getting accurate numbers from the satellites.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.area.arctic.png


PREDICTION 3: Hurricanes numbers are increasing and getting stronger.

REALITY: The scary truth is Global and Atlantic basin hurricane activity and intensity has been plummeting for years and now at 50 year lows globally and 30 year lows in the Atlantic.

Reality! Again, working with half-lies and outright lies. There is much variability in hurricane strength and numbers year to year. However, you have given numbers for the Atlantic, and ignored the record numbers of hurricanes in the Pacific. And the record intensity for some of those hurricanes. And the numbers will continue to vary, and every year that the are low, you will point this out, and ignore the years that they are very high. That is how liars work.


PREDICTION 4: Snow and frost will disappear. Same group as point 3 but there are hundreds of scientists who made this claim over the past 20 years.

REALITY: As soon as the 30-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) cycle started it's cold phase in 2007 we've seen a wholesale change in the severity of cold/snowy Winters the past 7 years. Cold Pacific Ocean - cold snowy planet with 4 of the past 7 winters the snowiest on record based on NOAA/NASA measurements that started in the late 1960s.

Reality. Outright lie, dumb fuck. One scientist made this prediction for England, not the whole world. And the average date for the first snowfall in the mountains has been getting later every decade for several decades now, worldwide. And the average date for the snow melt has been earlier in the spring every decade for several decades now.

Climate Change 2014 – Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability: Part A: Global and Sectoral Aspects: Volume 1, Global and Sectoral Aspects


PREDICTION 6: Global temperatures will be +0.8C to +1.8C above average by 2014 made by 74 IPCC UN Climate Models in 2005 - just 9 years ago and they were completely and utterly wrong and not one predicted the continued 17 years pause in global temperatures.

REALITY: They all get F and time to go back to the drawing board to figure out why! Last year July, all 90 IPCC climate models were completely wrong as the global temperature remained flat for 16 straight years - not one predicted the pause with the current temp below the 100% guarantee it won't be this temp.

Reality! Looks like 2015 is going to come in above +1 C. How can you be so stupid as to ignore what is happening right now?
Warming set to breach 1C threshold - BBC News



PREDICTION 7: Tornadoes are getting more frequent, greater numbers and much stronger.

REALITY: According to the severe storms forecast center, the actual number of violent monster F3 tornadoes has actually been decreasing.

Reality! OK, the number of F3 tornadoes has been diminishing. But the scale is F1, F2, F3, F4, and F5. F5 being the strongest. So why the specified F3? Maybe because the other numbers don't agree with your statement? Nice little half lie.

LINK: 10 Predictions vs Reality and the Winter 2014-2015 Hype - Blog - weathertrends360

Too funny:

Mantooth and old fuck trot out thier best deception skills, Made up temperatures, made up dire death consequences and not a shred of empirical evidence (that hasn't been bastardized by modeling and outright data manipulations) to point to..

But not unexpected from the classic left wit, failure to think drones..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Mamooth says atmospheric pressure has no effect on temperature, even on Venus

Just take your beatings like a man, Frank, if you're capable of it. Which everyone doubts, given your past behavior. When your stupid claims get debunked, simply slink away in disgrace. Don't follow me to another thread and sulk out some stupid lie.

Do you stand by your staggering, absurd claim that atmospheric pressure has no effect on temperature?

Not only did he never say that, he never claimed that the moon is hollow, either.

Mammooth actually said that atmospheric pressure has no effect on temperature

Man-tooth is an idiot of the highest order. on a planet that is 90 times more dense in its atmosphere and circulations of those molecules are whipped by pressure differentials, heat is caused. Considering Venus gets no sunlight to its surface, therefore there is no "green house effect", its rather funny to watch them wiggle and worm around atmospheric physics and known laws. Anyone with half a brain understands friction causes the heat on Venus.

 

[mamooth]

Man-tooth is an idiot of the highest order.

Maybe I should go easier on the loons. They seem flustered.

on a planet that is 90 times more dense in its atmosphere and circulations of those molecules are whipped by pressure differentials, heat is caused.

That's a very minor source of heat, just as wind friction is a very minor source of heat on earth. The sun makes most of heat directly. And the sun also drives the wind, so in the end, all the heat comes from the sun.

Considering Venus gets no sunlight to its surface,

Totally wrong, like every claim you make. Some sunlight does reach the surface. The "searing black calm" theory was debunked back around 1975.

NASA - The Planet Venus
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The atmosphere traps the small amount of energy from the sun that does reach the surface
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therefore there is no "green house effect", its rather funny to watch them wiggle and worm around atmospheric physics and known laws. Anyone with half a brain understands friction causes the heat on Venus.

But since sunlight does reach the surface, there is a greenhouse effect, and so you're just a sputtering cult nutter.

 

[Old Rocks]

science deniers are funny. and by funny I mean really stupid.

WHAT SCIENCE? From NOA to NASA, every bit of the 'science' Global Warmists have based their 'cult' on has been debunked, as proven. In 2008 these nut jobs declared NYC would be under water in 2015 due to the ice melting....Ummmm...WRONG.

Jill, let's do a basic high school experiment:

Fill a glass a glass completely to the rim with ice....then fill the glass up with water - all the way to the rim. As the ice melts, does the glass over-flow? No, NO IT DOESN'T!

NO! That's basic common sense to begin with, but it has also been proven in high school classes all over America...which means THERE ARE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ALL OVER THE US THAT ARE SMARTER THAN GLBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS!

God Damn. Are you truly that retarded? Look, stupid ass, the ice in Greenland and Antarctica is thousands of feet above sea level over much of both land masses. Same for the Alpine Glaciers. Damn, the more they come, the stupider they are.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, they didn't. You're repeating a big ol' lie. You didn't know it was a lie, of course, as you never question any of the lies that your masters feed you.

I stopped reading after this, claiming no one said back in 2008 Manhattan would be under water, because it proved you have no idea what you are talking about...

FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015

Look, dumb fuck, the people making this claim were not scientists. Woodruf is a journalist, not a scientist.

 

[Old Rocks]

That you prefer to get your "science" from the hysteria of Bob Woodruff and the rest of the conservative media crowd at the very conservative ABC, that's your problem. I go with actual scientists, and no climate scientists said the crazy things that ABC reported.

You said no one said that - I proved you wrong.
No, LIBERALS spew crap like this based on NO SCIENCE to back it up... THAT is the point!. (And when did ABC become 'Conservative'? When they get caught saying stupid shite like this?)

No, what you proved is that you are a willfully ignorant stupe that will resort to any lie to prove a bogus point.