Resnic
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I disagree, of course.
As you note, the Bible says that sex outside of marriage is a sin. Obviously, that limits sex. But it is acceptable for married couples to have sex purely for pleasure. What might be the difference between sex purely for pleasure inside and outside of marriage? Of course, when the Bible was written, there were no effective birth control methods, but now there are several. Did God not know that would come about?
Why would godless and hedonistic people pay any attention to God's wishes and commandments? Aside from that, your comment about sluts is just circular. And it's entirely possible for people to feel that sex can and should be enjoyed freely but have strong morals and values on other topics. Many devout Christians have committed murder. Morality is a complex subject, not controlled by a single knob.
At the time, most of the planet's human population were not Christians. Why did he kill only the people (including the innocent) in Sodom and Gomorrah? Why didn't he kill everyone on Earth but the faithful? Recent research has found that Sodom and Gomorrah were actually struck by a meteor and destroyed by "fire from the sky". The story was simply created to take advantage of the opportunity just as Noah's flood was inspired by the Mediterranean overflowing at what would become the Bosporus Straits into the basin that became the Black Sea.
That would seem to be a design failure, wouldn't it? Are selfishness and depravity acceptable among the married?
You realize that's a strong argument for evolution.
Many sins are not driven by desire but by anger and fear
What about the large numbers of people on Earth, raised in other religions and everyone before the rise of Judaism, who had never heard of your god's commandments about sex and marriage? Was ignorance a valid excuse?
It is not that difficult to keep yourself in check if you actually have some reason to do so. The strongest human motivation is the avoidance of pain/death. If you think having sex with a willing partner will earn you a punch in the nose, you will not have that much trouble keeping your pants on. I find it interesting that you take this solely from the male perspective. How much willpower does it take for women to not go straddle every dude with a bulge? Does the required willpower set the magnitude of the sin?
I smoked for many years. Like many smokers, I tried to quit dozens of times. I knew all along that all that was required was sufficient motivation but I didn't know how to create it. Sixteen years ago I was diagnosed with a non-Hodgkins lymphoma in my throat. The doc told me that it wasn't from smoking; that they didn't know what actually caused it. But, particularly being in my throat, it was good enough for me. I quit that moment and haven't had a single cigarette since. Unlike sex, the craving lasted about a year before vanishing. I am in my 70s now and I still crave sex. The two are not similar. Smoking is a chemical addiction. Craving sex is built into your DNA for the simple reason that genetic variants that don't crave sex go extinct. For the rest of this planet's life forms, the more effort you put into having sex, the better your chances of reproductive success.
Well you wasted a lot of time there because you ignored my primary message and thought and circumvented it to spin things your way in order to lecture me.
Like saying smoking and sex aren't the same thing while spinning me some yarn about you quitting smoking which was irrelevant. I didn't say sex and smoking was the same thing, I said they require willpower to resist the urge, that's all I said. Everything else you invented was just so you could speak to me like you're a highschool kid proud of himself for wowing a bunch of middle schoolers with a pedestrian interpretation of catcher in the rye to get a cheap sense of self satisfaction.
Reply if you wish but I won't read it, youve shown me you're incapable of engagement of conversation. Maybe it will be different next time we cross paths in another topic