Goodbye Hydroxychloroquine. Hello disinfectant and sunlight

[Norman]

Here's a burning question:

Who's the bigger fool, Trump for saying it, or you for believing it?

Who are you responding to? Trump is an irresponsible moron. The fools are the ones trying to cover for him.

Not responding to any person in particular.

But in my opinion, the fools are the ones who took him seriously in this context.

You, for example.

You claim not to take this man seriously, but as soon as he says something stupid, you're like Sauron's eye on the one ring. Selective hearing, as it were.

Either you take him seriously all of the time or none of the time.

I don't take him seriously. Idiot Trump supporters do. They are the mouth breathers that will drink bleach or shove Lysol up their asses because their garment-less emperor pondered about it in one of his off the cuff ramblings.

Nope, we even accurately heard what he said, which was NOT injecting anything to your body.

You liberals with your TDS on the other hand, bleach up to ass if CNN tells so.

 

[dannyboys]

Here's a burning question:

Who's the bigger fool, Trump for saying it, or you for believing it?

Who are you responding to? Trump is an irresponsible moron. The fools are the ones trying to cover for him.

Not responding to any person in particular.

But in my opinion, the fools are the ones who took him seriously in this context.

You, for example.

You claim not to take this man seriously, but as soon as he says something stupid, you're like Sauron's eye on the one ring. Selective hearing, as it were.

Either you take him seriously all of the time or none of the time.

I don't take him seriously. Idiot Trump supporters do. They are the mouth breathers that will drink bleach or shove Lysol up their asses because their garment-less emperor pondered about it in one of his off the cuff ramblings.

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[Seawytch]

Here's a burning question:

Who's the bigger fool, Trump for saying it, or you for believing it?

Who are you responding to? Trump is an irresponsible moron. The fools are the ones trying to cover for him.

Not responding to any person in particular.

But in my opinion, the fools are the ones who took him seriously in this context.

You, for example.

You claim not to take this man seriously, but as soon as he says something stupid, you're like Sauron's eye on the one ring. Selective hearing, as it were.

Either you take him seriously all of the time or none of the time.

I don't take him seriously. Idiot Trump supporters do. They are the mouth breathers that will drink bleach or shove Lysol up their asses because their garment-less emperor pondered about it in one of his off the cuff ramblings.

Nope, we even accurately heard what he said, which was NOT injecting anything to your body.

You liberals with your TDS on the other hand, bleach up to ass if CNN tells so.

We all watched the video.

“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”

 

[healthmyths]

And I don't mind a Prez that isn't afraid to ask stupid questions.,. I've been in enough science/tech meetings with stupid questions -- including a few of my own.. And it's PART of having honest, open inquiry.. And SOMETIMES leads to breakthroughs...

And here y'all are going all NIGHT on the political angle.. Like politicians never say stupid things. It's the TRANSPARENT ones ASKING questions that have "leadership" ability...

Now he claims he was just being sarcastic.

Could have been.. I do not GET the reaction to this.. WHAT was suggesting people "inject"?? The discussion was about COvid sensitivity to UV... It's a TRUE game changer for cleaning LARGE open areas effectively without exposing dozens of maintenance workers... Any RATIONAL person believe that Trump was motivating people to go buy a 3 ft UV fiber optic illuminator and EAT IT??

This is just an insane way to BLOW OFF the most important part of this story...

"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting."

Yes ultraviolet light can kill the virus if the exposure is long enough and the light is intense enough but so will chlorine bleach. It certainly could have a use as disinfectant but certainly not as a treatment. You can not disinfect the lungs. UV light damages cells. If somehow you could expose the lungs to high levels of UV, it would most probably kill the patient long before Covid 19 did.

The real damage is not that someone with covid 19 would somehow expose their lungs to UV. The damage comes from pulling researchers off promising treatments to explore a Trump brain fort.

See the full video and transcript of Trump suggesting disinfectant might be injected as a coronavirus cure

Ingesting bleach or other disinfectant is not only incredibly dangerous, but it is not an effective treatment or cure for COVID-19.

www.businessinsider.com

So he publicly was thinking on his feet and asked a dumb question.. Happens in science/tech meetings all the fucking time -- with people who should KNOW the answers.. Sometimes even "sarcastically",... And ya know what???? Some times those dumb questions turn on lightbulbs in peoples heads... Everyone here has their hair on fire because Trump DARED to be nakedly transparent in a public space... The fact that he's ENGAGED is a lot more attractive then the do-nothing ankle biters making shit up... AND the American people are seeing that contrast in leadership laid bare...

I'd worry more about the blazing ruins of party leadership on the OTHER side right now given how little they need to contribute to the Covid solutions...

Nothing wrong with brainstorming new ideas, just not in a news conference. When a president speaks it should be clear and not subject to interpretation. The public needs to hear real information, not hunches, feelings, and guesses.

Trumps biggest problem with the media is their interpretation of what he says is not what he meant. When Trump said, "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that." The most simple interpretation is he's asking if a disinfection can be injected into the lungs. What he means, I have no idea.

Of course you don't have an idea and that is the type of person that would drink bleach...right?
Tell me something... where were you when this president made these wild ass statements?
Where were you when he said it was OK for businesses to go bankrupt...with his help.
Where were you when he said he'd prefer 1,400 companies go bankrupt that pay over $100 Billion a year in taxes and layoff 450,000 people?
Or a president that preferred higher gas prices? Or utilities' cost to skyrocket.
REALLY that is the kind of President?
And then the worst case of narcissism and purely dumb ass comments that NO ONE in the MSM and supposedly smart people like you seem to be offended was made by Obama on his nomination....
“the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

"this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal ..."

The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But...

obamamessiah.blogspot.com

The Omniscient Obama... the ...God...
Newsweek editor Evan Thomas brought adulation over President Obama’s Cairo speech to a whole new level on Friday, declaring on MSNBC: "I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God."

Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Newsweek editor Evan Thomas brought adulation over President Obama’s Cairo speech to a whole new level on Friday, declaring on MSNBC: "I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God." Thomas, appearing on Hardball with Chris Matthews, was reacting...

www.newsbusters.org

Really a God?? Where you when the above and below statements were made???

 

[eagle1462010]

MEANWHILE -- I'm researching and developing 2 new UV based products that will help clean public spaces and save THOUSANDS of lives and change the way some buildings and public transit options get designed for lowering exposure to infectious diseases... I'm gonna be a bit TOO ENGAGED to watch this social anthropology experiment in manufactured outrage. But it's been fun and frightening to watch how society has degraded.

The FAR UV light is a game changer in all of this...........can be used with people present....and can be permanently installed and used without threat to hurting people.

Wasn't even aware of it til this nonsense happened. Which all came from a bunch of lunatics from the left telling everyone to drink bleach. LOL

 

[healthmyths]

Here's a burning question:

Who's the bigger fool, Trump for saying it, or you for believing it?

Who are you responding to? Trump is an irresponsible moron. The fools are the ones trying to cover for him.

Not responding to any person in particular.

But in my opinion, the fools are the ones who took him seriously in this context.

You, for example.

You claim not to take this man seriously, but as soon as he says something stupid, you're like Sauron's eye on the one ring. Selective hearing, as it were.

Either you take him seriously all of the time or none of the time.

I don't take him seriously. Idiot Trump supporters do. They are the mouth breathers that will drink bleach or shove Lysol up their asses because their garment-less emperor pondered about it in one of his off the cuff ramblings.

Nope, we even accurately heard what he said, which was NOT injecting anything to your body.

You liberals with your TDS on the other hand, bleach up to ass if CNN tells so.

We all watched the video.

“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”

ONLY dumb shits would take these words "And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection"
Trump's exact words DUMMY! "something like that"
Did HE say inject bleach? Inject lysol? Inject Isopropyl alcohol?
Well dummies like you evidently hanging on every word of Trump... MISSED that nuance...i.e. Trump's assumption that most Americans are smart enough NOT to do what dummies like you would do!

 

[eagle1462010]

IT's worse when public guessing becomes generally irresponsible "public ignorance"... Like when the journalists who for a large measure are not skilled at how ANYTHING really works, take the #dead divided by the #reported and CALL IT -- a death rate.. That's irresponsible and dangerous and potentially FAR MORE DANGEROUS than "guessing in public".... Because for infectious epidemics it's #dead/#infected.. And right now the SCIENCE IS -- the #infected is anywhere from 2 to 50 times the #reported...

And bottom line. THATS THE MOST IMPORTANT # for this ENTIRE medical/political REACTION to Covid-19 and WE DONT KNOW IT YET... We're "guessing in public"....

The people have no faith in the Media or the gov't anymore. The people don't believe the Politicians.........and that has been as long as we haven't trusted used car salesmen..........lol

With no trust in any news the people turn to Social media and lunacy prevails.........Only those that research it can find a path through the BS that is spouted daily. and even then you are not sure it's the real truth.

The Media is a useless pile of political hacks now, and nothing more.

 

[eagle1462010]

Funny, one of the companies that are working on "healight" mentioned by Trump, published on Twitter a potential corona virus treatment. Soon after they took president's side, their Twitter account was suspended. Company name is Aytu BioScience.

Even when proven wrong, and caught lying, left simply can't let anything go and take a loss. Of course, they don't have to, but they're just extending their nightmares.


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EVERYONE knocking themselves out over this phony outrage NEEDS to read you post !!!!

Million thanks for finding that.. It's NOT a product yet -- but MAYBE could be...

And how many heads are GONNA EXPLODE if TRUMP was right again???? This is what I was saying about science/tech and "stupid questions".. If it promotes brain storming -- even in a negative way -- it sometimes leads to solutions...

And FUCK TWITTER for trying to CENSOR this information.. They are despicable tiny brained dictators...

Youtube took the video down for it.............I was showing it and now it can't be played.

Imagine that............Bias on Youtube and twitter........

 

[eddiew]

Keep believing this nit wit trump

 

[eagle1462010]

Keep believing this nit wit trump

Every day your side goes with he said drink bleach you dig the hole deeper into the lie........the only one that said bleach was the reporter from the Clinton News Network. Also the people saying he said shove a flashlight up your butt around here.

While he made a gaf.......oh well............comes to LIGHT that since 2016 Columbia University and a guy from Canada have been researching this very thing...........With a single spectrum of light from UV.............It is also used with Bladder Cancer to id cancer so none is missed........and it is also used to clean the blood stream..........TELL ME when you see people with their veins outside their body.

The DUMB QUESTION is the one you never ask..........Even though Trump misdirected and made it a gaf..............it actually WAS A GOOD QUESTION........

Seems the Columbia University is doing this very thing. If you have a problem I suggest you go there and PROTEST WITH TDS........and hug Chinese people there to prove you are not Xenophobic.............and then go shake hands with Cuomo who sent POSITIVE COVID PATIENTS BACK TO NURSING HOMES.........OOPS

2700 Body bags and counting there from the GREAT ONE who didn't even know they were sending them back

Let me see...........A stupid question that didn't kill anyone and showed me new tech.

OR.......A Dumbfuck who didn't know they were sending POSITIVE PATIENTS into Nursing homes..........KILLING PROBABLY OVER 3000 NOW.

Cuomo didn’t know coronavirus patients are being sent back to nursing homes

New York’s health commissioner on Monday defended a directive that requires nursing homes to readmit residents who’ve tested positive for the coronavirus — as Gov. Andrew Cuomo re…

nypost.com

 

[JimBowie1958]

The FAR UV light is a game changer in all of this...........can be used with people present....and can be permanently installed and used without threat to hurting people.
Wasn't even aware of it til this nonsense happened. Which all came from a bunch of lunatics from the left telling everyone to drink bleach. LOL

But in Libtard speech that equates to 'Drink Bleach, mother f#ckers!'

 

[Mindful]

 

[DrLove]

Some room temperature knuckle dragger had the idea to post the thousands of people who die every year from smoking and/or smoking related illness.

Here is the difference you idiot.

IF you are so stupid enough as to smoke, you know the dangers and accept them. It is YOU who decides to smoke.

There is conscience decision to contract COVID-19.

You Smoke. You Die. Your Choice.

You smoke around your house, especially with children in that house, you are deciding for them the consequences of YOU chose to do. Second hand smoke kills and it is YOU doing the killing.

COVID-19 crosses age, gender, religious, ethnic and social boundaries. No one is making the decision to DIE of COVID-19.

By the end of next week more people will have died of COVID-19 than died in the Viet Nam War.

Smokers DIE knowing the risks.

God you people have the IQ of dried up dog turd sitting on Mississippi Sidewalk at High Noon July.

You sir are correct!

The Vietnam Conflict Extract Data File of the Defense Casualty Analysis System (DCAS) Extract Files contains records of 58,220 U.S. military fatal casualties of the Vietnam War. These records were transferred into the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration in 2008.

Trying to figure out whether to call this Donald's Katrina or Donald's Vietnam. Either fits, but Vietnam is more accurate.

Dream on

Deny all you must Mac, but there IS no question that the lost month of February, continued dithering on federalizing testing, PPE, vents etc combined with horrible mixed messaging on a reopening strategy, blaming the media and governors while taking "no responsibility" and failing to fully engage the Defense Production Act cost us thousands of lives.

We all worried about how this president would perform in a national emergency. Now we know. Your Donnie isn't a leader. Sad

 

[DrLove]

there was NO "drano or lysol" mentioned except by the mental midget heel nippers in this thread...

But Trump asked about disinfectants being injected to clean the system. You've seen the clip by now, I'm sure. So yeah, there are going to be jokes about Drano etc., but you can stop pretending there is no reason for the hilarity.

Yeah, the subject of the comment is irrelevant to smear machines, or any other facts.

If you can dupe stooges with lies that is all that matters to Libtard Big Lie buttheads.

Yes ultraviolet light can kill the virus if the exposure is long enough and the light is intense enough but so will chlorine bleach. It certainly could have a use as disinfectant but certainly not as a treatment. You can not disinfect the lungs. UV light damages cells. If somehow you could expose the lungs to high levels of UV, it would most probably kill the patient long before Covid 19 did.

Bryan continued by noting that DHS also tested if certain types of disinfectant could kill the coronavirus.

“We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster.”

Bryan added, “We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.”

Immediately following these remarks, Trump said:

So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.

A few moments later, ABC News reporter Jon Karl asked Bryan, “The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?”

“No, I’m here to talk about the finds that we had in the study,” Bryan responded. “We don’t do that within that lab at our labs.”

Trump then clarified his remarks: “It wouldn’t be through injections, you’re talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big affect if it’s on a stationary object.”

Trump later raised the possibility of whether UV rays could kill the coronavirus if it was on a person’s skin, in particular if it were on their hands.

“If they’re outside, right, and their hands are exposed to the sun, will that kill it as though it were a piece of metal or something else?” Trump asked.

“I don’t want to say it will at the same rate because it’s a non-porous surface, but what we do know is that we looked at the worst case scenario and the virus lives longer on non-porous surfaces,” Bryan responded. “So porous surfaces, it doesn’t live quite as long, so in theory what you said is correct.”

Left-wing activist Chris D. Jackson wrote that Trump had “urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant.”

Why did you not highlight the part of Trump's statement that actually spoke to the argument? THAT is what people are laughing about. You can spin it all you want, but he asked if they had looked into injecting disinfectant yet. He was NOT talking about the UV thing at that point. He was clear about that.

Trump was asking questions about on-going research. How in the world did that get morphed into him recommending injecting anything?

HE didn't recommend it. There are some pretty dumb people out there who would hear those comments and think hey, that's a great idea. And drink more poison, like the fish tank couple. But I have discovered in the past day or so that there is actually a guy out there touting cure by bleach--for everything from autism to now Covid 19. I don't know how the FDA is allowing him to get away with it, but he even admitted publicly that he sent a letter to the President, advising him of this cure. I'm not saying Trump knew anything about this guy, but there are people out there who already believe this shit. Trump's comments about this? Stupid talk for stupid people.

And Trump's comments will only feed those beliefs. This is why presidents should not make comments about things they know nothing about. Trump lacks the knowledge which means he will use the wrong words and phrases to express his ideas. He will be misinterpreted and create confusion among both the public and his administration which forces him to have additional news conferences to try explain what he meant. Along the way, either Trump or his defenders will make questionable statements which will create more controversy for his administration to deal with. A far better path is for the president to speak only about what truly understands and leave the medical science to experts he has hired.

Hey... do you think President Trump just makes these things up?
For example here is a "latest study" regarding Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin
Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients


Posted on April 9, 2020
by covexit
The new study, of which the abstract was released today, was performed at IHU Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, France. A cohort of 1061 COVID-19 patients, treated for at least 3 days with the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) combination and a follow-up of at least 9 days was investigated.
Key findings are:
•No cardiac toxicity was observed.
•A good clinical outcome and virological cure was obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%).
A poor outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%); 10 were transferred to intensive care units,
5 patients died (0.47%) (74-95 years old) and 31 required 10 days of hospitalization or more.

The authors conclude that:

“The HCQ-AZ combination, when started immediately after diagnosis, is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19, with a mortality rate of 0.5%, in elderly patients. It avoids worsening and clears virus persistence and contagiosity in most cases.”

Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients |

www.paulcraigroberts.org

Professor Diddle is a know-nothing hack.

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.

apnews.com

The Brazil study is seriously flawed.. And everyone KNOWS it... The 6200 physicians in Europe were mostly all adhering to the protocol of 400mg.. The BRAZIL study used a RANGE of doses ALL HIGHER than anything recommended from the Euro experience and THREEE TIMES as high (at the peak dosage) than what is given to Lupus or RArthritis patients.. They used 450 to 600mg...

FROM THE LINK --

Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a study testing chloroquine, an older drug similar to hydroxychloroquine, after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested.

"GIVEN THE HIGHER DOSE" --- ANY US cardiologist could tell you that doses like THAT require an initial baseline EKG and constant monitoring.. And that same monitoring is prescribed for ANY cardiac compromised individuals EVEN on the 400 mg... They PROVED NOTHING but the standard guidelines on prescribing the drug that ALREADY exist...

My link isn't about the Brazil study. What was wrong with the VA study?

 

[Kilroy2]

The New York Daily News reported the New York Poison Control Centre received 30 calls about Lysol, bleach and other household cleaners between 9pm on Thursday and 3pm on Friday – compared to 13 calls about the same products taken during the same 18-hour period last year.

Morons be morons.. Don't use the god given noodle on your shoulders to DEFENSIVELY read news or "journalism" cum tabloid bird cage liner.. Let's THINK TOGETHER HERE...

So 17 more people called compared to last year in the same period.. Maybe just a little bit over DOUBLED.. Is this statistic VALID to confirm a causation with the Trump farts? Probably not. But I don't know and neither do you... WHY -- you stupidly ask?????

Because they DID NOT report the increase from the BEGINNINGS of the Covid panic.. The stores have been OUT of bleach, lysol, and medical alcohol for WEEKS.... Shelves have been picked bare by hoarders for over a MONTH in my area.. SO -- COULD IT BE that folks commanded to STAYING AT HOME have been reflexively USING THIS PRODUCTS in TREMENDOUSLY higher volume since say March????

WE DONT KNOW -- because the reporting on this SUCKS wads... And to KNOW -- you'd have to do more than compare ONE 18 hour period in a day to the same ONE 18 hour period a year ago...

BUT -- keep on flinging the poo with your brain in Neutral -- I'm FULLY entertained by the HEROIC EFFORTS you're making to save people during this crisis...

MEANWHILE -- I'm researching and developing 2 new UV based products that will help clean public spaces and save THOUSANDS of lives and change the way some buildings and public transit options get designed for lowering exposure to infectious diseases... I'm gonna be a bit TOO ENGAGED to watch this social anthropology experiment in manufactured outrage. But it's been fun and frightening to watch how society has degraded.

You seem to be the one focusing on the calls. Its just a comment and there was more you could have critiqued but you seem to focus on this disinfectant.

You claim to be researching but you potty mouth gives you away. Still UV light used for disinfecting surface is well know and nothing new. Some guy reported this back in 1878 . You are doing nothing new but good luck but like you say (will help clean public spaces) I see some problems that need to be overcome.

drumming up business already

Still for the application that you want to us this for has problems but hey if it keeps you busy.

 

[OldLady]

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LOL

 

[DrLove]

At Thursday’s coronavirus press briefing,

Trump’s response was to say that he doesn’t listen to his economists in the first place — and that he believes he knows at least as much about the matter as they do.

He then says "
“I know a lot about economists and the answer is they have no idea,” said Trump. “I think I have as good of an idea as anybody.”

So he knows at least as much about the matter, as economist who actually have no idea "about the matter" so he also really has no idea about the matter and admits it.

That really should be his new campaign slogan as people will understand that.

Of course you can't show he actually said that......

That what he was told to hear, not what actually Trump said.

Trump said "disinfectant", they all heard "bleach".

Uhmmm, which "disinfectant" would you suggest injecting?

It's Not Fake News: Trump Did Actually Suggest That Injecting Bleach Could Be a Cure for COVID-19

The president added that the procedure is something "you're going to have to use medical doctors with."

reason.com

Did you watch the video, or just read the headline?

What's interesting, headline said bleach, and video they provided has no mention of it.

Funny, they "debunked" their own headline with the video provided.

Bleach IS the preeminent disinfectant. What disinfected would YOU recommend injecting? Formaldehyde, peracetic acid. hydrogen peroxide, maybe 151 rum??

 

[OldLady]

When a president speaks it should be clear and not subject to interpretation.

That has been the problem with the President's communication since the start. He has NO problem being clear when he's tweeting insults against someone who criticized him, so I am beginning to wonder if this vague and hazy rambling style is purposeful, so his fan base can "interpret" for him ad nauseum.

 

[OldLady]

there was NO "drano or lysol" mentioned except by the mental midget heel nippers in this thread...

But Trump asked about disinfectants being injected to clean the system. You've seen the clip by now, I'm sure. So yeah, there are going to be jokes about Drano etc., but you can stop pretending there is no reason for the hilarity.

Yeah, the subject of the comment is irrelevant to smear machines, or any other facts.

If you can dupe stooges with lies that is all that matters to Libtard Big Lie buttheads.

Yes ultraviolet light can kill the virus if the exposure is long enough and the light is intense enough but so will chlorine bleach. It certainly could have a use as disinfectant but certainly not as a treatment. You can not disinfect the lungs. UV light damages cells. If somehow you could expose the lungs to high levels of UV, it would most probably kill the patient long before Covid 19 did.

Bryan continued by noting that DHS also tested if certain types of disinfectant could kill the coronavirus.

“We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster.”

Bryan added, “We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.”

Immediately following these remarks, Trump said:

So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.

A few moments later, ABC News reporter Jon Karl asked Bryan, “The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?”

“No, I’m here to talk about the finds that we had in the study,” Bryan responded. “We don’t do that within that lab at our labs.”

Trump then clarified his remarks: “It wouldn’t be through injections, you’re talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big affect if it’s on a stationary object.”

Trump later raised the possibility of whether UV rays could kill the coronavirus if it was on a person’s skin, in particular if it were on their hands.

“If they’re outside, right, and their hands are exposed to the sun, will that kill it as though it were a piece of metal or something else?” Trump asked.

“I don’t want to say it will at the same rate because it’s a non-porous surface, but what we do know is that we looked at the worst case scenario and the virus lives longer on non-porous surfaces,” Bryan responded. “So porous surfaces, it doesn’t live quite as long, so in theory what you said is correct.”

Left-wing activist Chris D. Jackson wrote that Trump had “urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant.”

Why did you not highlight the part of Trump's statement that actually spoke to the argument? THAT is what people are laughing about. You can spin it all you want, but he asked if they had looked into injecting disinfectant yet. He was NOT talking about the UV thing at that point. He was clear about that.

Trump was asking questions about on-going research. How in the world did that get morphed into him recommending injecting anything?

HE didn't recommend it. There are some pretty dumb people out there who would hear those comments and think hey, that's a great idea. And drink more poison, like the fish tank couple. But I have discovered in the past day or so that there is actually a guy out there touting cure by bleach--for everything from autism to now Covid 19. I don't know how the FDA is allowing him to get away with it, but he even admitted publicly that he sent a letter to the President, advising him of this cure. I'm not saying Trump knew anything about this guy, but there are people out there who already believe this shit. Trump's comments about this? Stupid talk for stupid people.

And Trump's comments will only feed those beliefs. This is why presidents should not make comments about things they know nothing about. Trump lacks the knowledge which means he will use the wrong words and phrases to express his ideas. He will be misinterpreted and create confusion among both the public and his administration which forces him to have additional news conferences to try explain what he meant. Along the way, either Trump or his defenders will make questionable statements which will create more controversy for his administration to deal with. A far better path is for the president to speak only about what truly understands and leave the medical science to experts he has hired.

Hey... do you think President Trump just makes these things up?
For example here is a "latest study" regarding Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin
Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients


Posted on April 9, 2020
by covexit
The new study, of which the abstract was released today, was performed at IHU Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, France. A cohort of 1061 COVID-19 patients, treated for at least 3 days with the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) combination and a follow-up of at least 9 days was investigated.
Key findings are:
•No cardiac toxicity was observed.
•A good clinical outcome and virological cure was obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%).
A poor outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%); 10 were transferred to intensive care units,
5 patients died (0.47%) (74-95 years old) and 31 required 10 days of hospitalization or more.

The authors conclude that:

“The HCQ-AZ combination, when started immediately after diagnosis, is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19, with a mortality rate of 0.5%, in elderly patients. It avoids worsening and clears virus persistence and contagiosity in most cases.”

Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients |

www.paulcraigroberts.org

Professor Diddle is a know-nothing hack.

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.

apnews.com

The Brazil study is seriously flawed.. And everyone KNOWS it... The 6200 physicians in Europe were mostly all adhering to the protocol of 400mg.. The BRAZIL study used a RANGE of doses ALL HIGHER than anything recommended from the Euro experience and THREEE TIMES as high (at the peak dosage) than what is given to Lupus or RArthritis patients.. They used 450 to 600mg...

FROM THE LINK --

Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a study testing chloroquine, an older drug similar to hydroxychloroquine, after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested.

"GIVEN THE HIGHER DOSE" --- ANY US cardiologist could tell you that doses like THAT require an initial baseline EKG and constant monitoring.. And that same monitoring is prescribed for ANY cardiac compromised individuals EVEN on the 400 mg... They PROVED NOTHING but the standard guidelines on prescribing the drug that ALREADY exist...

My link isn't about the Brazil study. What was wrong with the VA study?

Where is that link, Dr. Love? This thread has gotten really, really long, but I'm interested.

 

[DrLove]

there was NO "drano or lysol" mentioned except by the mental midget heel nippers in this thread...

But Trump asked about disinfectants being injected to clean the system. You've seen the clip by now, I'm sure. So yeah, there are going to be jokes about Drano etc., but you can stop pretending there is no reason for the hilarity.

Yeah, the subject of the comment is irrelevant to smear machines, or any other facts.

If you can dupe stooges with lies that is all that matters to Libtard Big Lie buttheads.

Yes ultraviolet light can kill the virus if the exposure is long enough and the light is intense enough but so will chlorine bleach. It certainly could have a use as disinfectant but certainly not as a treatment. You can not disinfect the lungs. UV light damages cells. If somehow you could expose the lungs to high levels of UV, it would most probably kill the patient long before Covid 19 did.

Bryan continued by noting that DHS also tested if certain types of disinfectant could kill the coronavirus.

“We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster.”

Bryan added, “We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.”

Immediately following these remarks, Trump said:

So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.

A few moments later, ABC News reporter Jon Karl asked Bryan, “The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?”

“No, I’m here to talk about the finds that we had in the study,” Bryan responded. “We don’t do that within that lab at our labs.”

Trump then clarified his remarks: “It wouldn’t be through injections, you’re talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big affect if it’s on a stationary object.”

Trump later raised the possibility of whether UV rays could kill the coronavirus if it was on a person’s skin, in particular if it were on their hands.

“If they’re outside, right, and their hands are exposed to the sun, will that kill it as though it were a piece of metal or something else?” Trump asked.

“I don’t want to say it will at the same rate because it’s a non-porous surface, but what we do know is that we looked at the worst case scenario and the virus lives longer on non-porous surfaces,” Bryan responded. “So porous surfaces, it doesn’t live quite as long, so in theory what you said is correct.”

Left-wing activist Chris D. Jackson wrote that Trump had “urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant.”

Why did you not highlight the part of Trump's statement that actually spoke to the argument? THAT is what people are laughing about. You can spin it all you want, but he asked if they had looked into injecting disinfectant yet. He was NOT talking about the UV thing at that point. He was clear about that.

Trump was asking questions about on-going research. How in the world did that get morphed into him recommending injecting anything?

HE didn't recommend it. There are some pretty dumb people out there who would hear those comments and think hey, that's a great idea. And drink more poison, like the fish tank couple. But I have discovered in the past day or so that there is actually a guy out there touting cure by bleach--for everything from autism to now Covid 19. I don't know how the FDA is allowing him to get away with it, but he even admitted publicly that he sent a letter to the President, advising him of this cure. I'm not saying Trump knew anything about this guy, but there are people out there who already believe this shit. Trump's comments about this? Stupid talk for stupid people.

And Trump's comments will only feed those beliefs. This is why presidents should not make comments about things they know nothing about. Trump lacks the knowledge which means he will use the wrong words and phrases to express his ideas. He will be misinterpreted and create confusion among both the public and his administration which forces him to have additional news conferences to try explain what he meant. Along the way, either Trump or his defenders will make questionable statements which will create more controversy for his administration to deal with. A far better path is for the president to speak only about what truly understands and leave the medical science to experts he has hired.

Hey... do you think President Trump just makes these things up?
For example here is a "latest study" regarding Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin
Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients


Posted on April 9, 2020
by covexit
The new study, of which the abstract was released today, was performed at IHU Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, France. A cohort of 1061 COVID-19 patients, treated for at least 3 days with the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) combination and a follow-up of at least 9 days was investigated.
Key findings are:
•No cardiac toxicity was observed.
•A good clinical outcome and virological cure was obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%).
A poor outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%); 10 were transferred to intensive care units,
5 patients died (0.47%) (74-95 years old) and 31 required 10 days of hospitalization or more.

The authors conclude that:

“The HCQ-AZ combination, when started immediately after diagnosis, is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19, with a mortality rate of 0.5%, in elderly patients. It avoids worsening and clears virus persistence and contagiosity in most cases.”

Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients |

www.paulcraigroberts.org

Professor Diddle is a know-nothing hack.

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.

apnews.com

The Brazil study is seriously flawed.. And everyone KNOWS it... The 6200 physicians in Europe were mostly all adhering to the protocol of 400mg.. The BRAZIL study used a RANGE of doses ALL HIGHER than anything recommended from the Euro experience and THREEE TIMES as high (at the peak dosage) than what is given to Lupus or RArthritis patients.. They used 450 to 600mg...

FROM THE LINK --

Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a study testing chloroquine, an older drug similar to hydroxychloroquine, after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested.

"GIVEN THE HIGHER DOSE" --- ANY US cardiologist could tell you that doses like THAT require an initial baseline EKG and constant monitoring.. And that same monitoring is prescribed for ANY cardiac compromised individuals EVEN on the 400 mg... They PROVED NOTHING but the standard guidelines on prescribing the drug that ALREADY exist...

My link isn't about the Brazil study. What was wrong with the VA study?

Where is that link, Dr. Love? This thread has gotten really, really long, but I'm interested.

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.

apnews.com