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This could be the miracle drug we've been looking for, and you want to give up on it so soon?There's a REASON Fox News, Dr Quack Oz, Dr Quack Phil and Dr Quack Trump himself have stopped talking about hydrochloroquine OL. Yes, more research is needed but it's dangerous and unproven. And obviously those who got the treatment earlier may have recovered without it.
The cult45 freaks are in serious denial over this.Here's a burning question:
Who's the bigger fool, Trump for saying it, or you for believing it?
Who are you responding to? Trump is an irresponsible moron. The fools are the ones trying to cover for him.
Not responding to any person in particular.
But in my opinion, the fools are the ones who took him seriously in this context.
You, for example.
You claim not to take this man seriously, but as soon as he says something stupid, you're like Sauron's eye on the one ring. Selective hearing, as it were.
Either you take him seriously all of the time or none of the time.
I don't take him seriously. Idiot Trump supporters do. They are the mouth breathers that will drink bleach or shove Lysol up their asses because their garment-less emperor pondered about it in one of his off the cuff ramblings.
Nope, we even accurately heard what he said, which was NOT injecting anything to your body.
You liberals with your TDS on the other hand, bleach up to ass if CNN tells so.
We all watched the video.
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
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Trump is not making anything up.
The problems seems to be that the left wingers are blinded by their hate.
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LOLOLPlease show where Iodine kills coronavirus...So? He said disinfectant and Lysol is a disinfectant.He never said Lysol, you did, and you are advertising it as an injection, so that means you and the media will be responsible for any missuse and expenses Lysol spent to denounce these internet sarcasm / satires.Poor baby.Anyone who drinks bleach wins the Darwin Award and will not be missed...........You should have taken better care of your teeth, con.You need to try to one liner like Right winger........he can give you some boners.....lolLOLNice try.........but you see .....I don't care what you think.......so that makes this all easy.Aww, poor. baby.And by the Media running with it they made it worse.............Maybe there are two Eagles....
No, Eagle. They are not responsible. Of course, Trump didn't say they should inject disinfectant, but we have people out there who do shit like that. You saw this article, right? Revealed: leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus 'cure' wrote to Trump this weekOOPs here you are.......Cherry picking the words, leaving out the ones we're talking about, is dishonest. I'd expect it of Easy, but not of you.It was the reporter who said inject bleach and isoproply alcohol.And the TDS sheep go BAAA BAAAAnd now the Reporter PERFORMS THE NARRATIVE...........LOL
Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing | The White House
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room 5:48 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Later this evening, we expect the House to pass the Paycheck Protectwww.whitehouse.gov
ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: Let me explain — if you look at the coronavirus as a chain with many links, what we’ve done through our study is we’ve identified some of the weak links in that chain, that the virus — the transmission of the virus depends upon. We identified that heat and humidity is a weakness in that chain. We’ve identified that sunlight, solar light, UV rays is a weakness in that chain. That doesn’t take away the other activities — the guidance from the White House, the guidance from the CDC and others on the actions and steps that people need to take to protect themselves.
This is just another — another tool in our tool belt, right? Another — another weapon in the fight that we can add to it and, in the summer, we know that summer-like conditions are going to create an environment where the transmission can be decreased. And that’s an opportunity for us to get ahead.
Q But I — just, can I ask about — the President mentioned the idea of cleaners, like bleach and isopropyl alcohol you mentioned. There’s no scenario that that could be injected into a person, is there? I mean —
ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: No, I’m here to talk about the findings that we had in the study. We won’t do that within that lab and our lab. So —
THE PRESIDENT: It wouldn’t be through injection. We’re talking about through almost a cleaning, sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work. But it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.
Now it has morphed to the NARRATIVE of TRUMP SAYS DRINK BLEACH.
I think these people have already been snorting it..........BRAIN DAMAGE.
I didn't cherry pick.....over this thread I have shown exactly what he said every time.
This was LATER ON...where they engaged again.........and IN FACT THE REPORTER DID SAY IT.........Not TRUMP.
He clarified that he didn't mean INJECTION.....now we can play word games all day with the gaf.............but HE NEVER SAID INJECT BLEACH......like is coming from the Media now.
They are responsible if an Idiot drinks Bleach.........NOT TRUMP......because they are going postal with it.
There are some nutty folks out there. I think the concerted effort by the disinfectant manufacturers and the media has probably driven home the point that these nutters shouldn't try this at home. Trump implied it was an idea worth looking into, he suggested it, even, for the doctors. If you're stupid enough to drink bleach to cure what ails ya, what makes you think they wouldn't take that concept from Trump and run with it?
The rest of it is campaign season yak. And yeah, some pretty funny jokes. Gotta have a sense of humor, there, eagle.
Had this been Obama.......MSM wouldn't have run with it and you know it. CNN, MSM are all DNC mouth pieces................and you KNOW IT TOO.
On here .....I knew it was coming ......so do you..........they are doing look .......TRUMP SAYS DRINK BLEACH...........No he didn't.
And in reality ..........it was the Reporter saying INJECT BLEACH.........they spun that to Trump said that.......
I'm screwing with their fun here................And I did a pretty good job of it.
LMAO
Obama said people should keep their tires properly inflated and you idiots had a cow.
Impeached Trump suggests we explore injecting disinfectant as a potential treatment for COVID-19, and now you idiots are doing cartwheels trying to defend that absolute moronic comment of his.
Your side is saying he said drink bleach and shove flashlights up people's asses...........well that sounds like a personal problem to me..............in places like San Fran maybe......were morons accept it.
but anyways.........One comment....the air in tires......wasn't when people are dying and losing their jobs and businesses and the other is about the LIFE AND DEATH OF OUR COUNTRY.
So............that makes the Lamestream media SOS's.............they suck.........it isn't a game when people are dying and losing their homes.
Down the street from me.........I'm already seeing the House for sale signs going up...............starting to remind me 2008 and what happened to neighbors.................
THIS ISN'T A GAME..............for this country.
Aww, poor, baby.
You just wondered how Obama would have been treated had he said something this retarded and I reminded you how you rightards attacked Obama for offering such solid advice as keeping tires properly inflated.
If you had a brain, you wouldn't have bothered to protect Impeached Trump from his bizarre commentary on injecting disinfectant to combat coronavirus.
He's a little busy with a flash light at the moment though.
Heard you were out of room on your trophy case for those awards.
-checkmate!
By the way- you need to stop injecting saline in your chest, it's a disinfectant and we don't want you to become a hypocrite.
Iodine is disinfectant too.
Have is said it kills corona virus?
By the way, can you show us where Lysol does it.
My point, which you couldn't get, is that Lysol is not only disinfectant around. When president said word "disinfectant" he referred to some medical grade, used in medicine, not something used in your kitchen.
But nice try, moron.
Dumbfuck, they weren't talking about Iodine, so who knows why the fuck you'd even mention it?
They were talking about bleach and isopropyl alcohol specifically.
"By the way, can you show us where Lysol does it."
Exactly! Look at how Trump walked out of the next press conference. He got his ass kicked the day before, and it was of his own making;What cure has Biden come up with?What did we fall for?
Biden doesn't play a quack doctor on TeeVee. That's your team.
and why do you think all his aides are suggesting he shut his lying stupid yapper?The stupidity of the left is amazing. Nobody but a progressive could listen to the ideas Trump was putting to the Experts he was talking to hear injecting cleansers. Maybe that's why stupid people don't live as long as intelligent people.
These are only the folks that were dumb enough to go out and get tested.The cult45 freaks are in serious denial over this.Here's a burning question:
Who's the bigger fool, Trump for saying it, or you for believing it?
Who are you responding to? Trump is an irresponsible moron. The fools are the ones trying to cover for him.
Not responding to any person in particular.
But in my opinion, the fools are the ones who took him seriously in this context.
You, for example.
You claim not to take this man seriously, but as soon as he says something stupid, you're like Sauron's eye on the one ring. Selective hearing, as it were.
Either you take him seriously all of the time or none of the time.
I don't take him seriously. Idiot Trump supporters do. They are the mouth breathers that will drink bleach or shove Lysol up their asses because their garment-less emperor pondered about it in one of his off the cuff ramblings.
Nope, we even accurately heard what he said, which was NOT injecting anything to your body.
You liberals with your TDS on the other hand, bleach up to ass if CNN tells so.
We all watched the video.
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that,”
What happened on Thursday was a micro-play of how Trump has handled his job since Day One.
If anyone doesn't think Bryan and Birx weren't channeling their inner Rex Tillerson/James Mattis/John Kelly/John Bolton/Scaramucci, they're kidding themselves.
Everything I have read about Trump from people who worked with him say the same things:
1. He has the attention span of a gerbil
2. He won't listen or take advice from the experts
3. He makes shit up as he goes along and then
4. Changes the story about what happened.
And the fucking Trump-suckers give him a free pass. Every single time.
And now, here we are. Leading the world in COVID-19 cases and all because of items 1-4 listed above.
COVID Live Update: 261,475,525 Cases and 5,215,099 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
Any republican here think Trump might devote a minute or 2 of his valuable time to tell those relatives of the 1000's dead how sorry he is? Maybe without saying how much he's loved?
But you never listen to them ? Yeah right.. You wouldn't miss anything Trump says if your life depended on it. Again if people are so dam stupid that they wait around for government to tell them what to do, then they are some of the most ignorant people on the planet.Trump says this
And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
well he does say it. I do not know if he is confusing disinfectant used to sterilize equipment and assuming that it can be used to sterilize inside the human body. Definitely a little information is dangerous in Trumps hands.
Still he says inside and talks about lungs.
Still disinfectant has a specific meaning. As does UV lights used to disinfect. So he is using 5th grade logic to suggest a course of action that medical people and researchers should look at
The immediate problem is this
UV Industry Associations Discourage the Use of UV Light on the Human Body to Disinfect Against the Coronavirus
Maryland emergency hotline gets 100 calls and New York poison control center records soaring numbers of people calling about ingesting bleach after President Trump touted it as a potential 'cure'
The New York Daily News reported the New York Poison Control Centre received 30 calls about Lysol, bleach and other household cleaners between 9pm on Thursday and 3pm on Friday – compared to 13 calls about the same products taken during the same 18-hour period last year.
Lose lips sink ships.
So the white house and trump are scaling back on his briefings. Still If there is a need then professional people should give the briefing. Even Pence should speak as he seems to be measured in his responses. But I do not know, I never listen to them.
Donald J. Trump(@realDonaldTrump)
What is the purpose of having White House News Conferences when the Lamestream Media asks nothing but hostile questions, & then refuses to report the truth or facts accurately. They get record ratings, & the American people get nothing but Fake News. Not worth the time & effort!
Well it may be the person who is hogging all the air time.
Finally Trump is giving up speaking but unfortunately there is Tweeter and we know he can't be silent for long.
Exactly! Look at how Trump walked out of the next press conference. He got his ass kicked the day before, and it was of his own making;What cure has Biden come up with?What did we fall for?
Biden doesn't play a quack doctor on TeeVee. That's your team.
Of course he wasn't, but look at who it is that is listening to his every word in hopes to exploit it for their evilness being spread.He said "disinfectant", because it kills the virus so quickly.
UV light IS a disinfectant (for the 4th time in this thread).. So are the other things. I seriously DOUBT the prez was talking about inhaling lysol, clorox or isopropyl alcohol....
Yeah, the subject of the comment is irrelevant to smear machines, or any other facts.But Trump asked about disinfectants being injected to clean the system. You've seen the clip by now, I'm sure. So yeah, there are going to be jokes about Drano etc., but you can stop pretending there is no reason for the hilarity.there was NO "drano or lysol" mentioned except by the mental midget heel nippers in this thread...
If you can dupe stooges with lies that is all that matters to Libtard Big Lie buttheads.Bryan continued by noting that DHS also tested if certain types of disinfectant could kill the coronavirus.Yes ultraviolet light can kill the virus if the exposure is long enough and the light is intense enough but so will chlorine bleach. It certainly could have a use as disinfectant but certainly not as a treatment. You can not disinfect the lungs. UV light damages cells. If somehow you could expose the lungs to high levels of UV, it would most probably kill the patient long before Covid 19 did.
“We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster.”
Bryan added, “We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.”
Immediately following these remarks, Trump said:
A few moments later, ABC News reporter Jon Karl asked Bryan, “The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?”So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
“No, I’m here to talk about the finds that we had in the study,” Bryan responded. “We don’t do that within that lab at our labs.”
Trump then clarified his remarks: “It wouldn’t be through injections, you’re talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big affect if it’s on a stationary object.”
Trump later raised the possibility of whether UV rays could kill the coronavirus if it was on a person’s skin, in particular if it were on their hands.
“If they’re outside, right, and their hands are exposed to the sun, will that kill it as though it were a piece of metal or something else?” Trump asked.
“I don’t want to say it will at the same rate because it’s a non-porous surface, but what we do know is that we looked at the worst case scenario and the virus lives longer on non-porous surfaces,” Bryan responded. “So porous surfaces, it doesn’t live quite as long, so in theory what you said is correct.”
Left-wing activist Chris D. Jackson wrote that Trump had “urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant.”
Why did you not highlight the part of Trump's statement that actually spoke to the argument? THAT is what people are laughing about. You can spin it all you want, but he asked if they had looked into injecting disinfectant yet. He was NOT talking about the UV thing at that point. He was clear about that.
Trump was asking questions about on-going research. How in the world did that get morphed into him recommending injecting anything?
HE didn't recommend it. There are some pretty dumb people out there who would hear those comments and think hey, that's a great idea. And drink more poison, like the fish tank couple. But I have discovered in the past day or so that there is actually a guy out there touting cure by bleach--for everything from autism to now Covid 19. I don't know how the FDA is allowing him to get away with it, but he even admitted publicly that he sent a letter to the President, advising him of this cure. I'm not saying Trump knew anything about this guy, but there are people out there who already believe this shit. Trump's comments about this? Stupid talk for stupid people.
And Trump's comments will only feed those beliefs. This is why presidents should not make comments about things they know nothing about. Trump lacks the knowledge which means he will use the wrong words and phrases to express his ideas. He will be misinterpreted and create confusion among both the public and his administration which forces him to have additional news conferences to try explain what he meant. Along the way, either Trump or his defenders will make questionable statements which will create more controversy for his administration to deal with. A far better path is for the president to speak only about what truly understands and leave the medical science to experts he has hired.
Hey... do you think President Trump just makes these things up?
For example here is a "latest study" regarding Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin
Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients
Posted on April 9, 2020
by covexit
The new study, of which the abstract was released today, was performed at IHU Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, France. A cohort of 1061 COVID-19 patients, treated for at least 3 days with the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) combination and a follow-up of at least 9 days was investigated.
Key findings are:
•No cardiac toxicity was observed.
•A good clinical outcome and virological cure was obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%).
A poor outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%); 10 were transferred to intensive care units,
5 patients died (0.47%) (74-95 years old) and 31 required 10 days of hospitalization or more.
The authors conclude that:
“The HCQ-AZ combination, when started immediately after diagnosis, is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19, with a mortality rate of 0.5%, in elderly patients. It avoids worsening and clears virus persistence and contagiosity in most cases.”
Professor Diddle is a know-nothing hack.
More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study
A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.apnews.com
The Brazil study is seriously flawed.. And everyone KNOWS it... The 6200 physicians in Europe were mostly all adhering to the protocol of 400mg.. The BRAZIL study used a RANGE of doses ALL HIGHER than anything recommended from the Euro experience and THREEE TIMES as high (at the peak dosage) than what is given to Lupus or RArthritis patients.. They used 450 to 600mg...
FROM THE LINK --
Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a study testing chloroquine, an older drug similar to hydroxychloroquine, after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested.
"GIVEN THE HIGHER DOSE" --- ANY US cardiologist could tell you that doses like THAT require an initial baseline EKG and constant monitoring.. And that same monitoring is prescribed for ANY cardiac compromised individuals EVEN on the 400 mg... They PROVED NOTHING but the standard guidelines on prescribing the drug that ALREADY exist...
My link isn't about the Brazil study. What was wrong with the VA study?
Where is that link, Dr. Love? This thread has gotten really, really long, but I'm interested.
More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study
A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals.
What was wrong with the Virginia study is that included only 368 patients, and it was a record review. That at least explains why there was no control group. The group had either recovered or died and they did not take into account when in the disease process the regimen was started. The FDA relaxed it's regulations against prescribing hydroxychloroquine for treatment of Covid 19 in compassionate use situations--a last ditch effort. Is that what happened here? The findings from studies so far are very positive if the treatment is begun at the very beginning. That finding isn't the last word, either. There is much to do, and the results of many more studies to consider.
I know you're a true blue-er, Dr. Love, but you're pushing this Virginia finding and saying it "proves" hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin don't work because it makes the President look bad. That's not a good reason. Wait for the science. They're not finished, yet.
the VA study had a control group. patients not getting hcq.
the french study did not have a control group.
Former FDA leaders decry emergency authorization of malaria drugs for coronavirusThis could be the miracle drug we've been looking for, and you want to give up on it so soon?There's a REASON Fox News, Dr Quack Oz, Dr Quack Phil and Dr Quack Trump himself have stopped talking about hydrochloroquine OL. Yes, more research is needed but it's dangerous and unproven. And obviously those who got the treatment earlier may have recovered without it.
Trump's miracle drug? LoL - You people are precious!
DERP
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Jesus saves ,,,Trump killsAny republican here think Trump might devote a minute or 2 of his valuable time to tell those relatives of the 1000's dead how sorry he is? Maybe without saying how much he's loved?
You should dedicate your time to telling president Trump how thankful you are that he saved 2 million Americans.
What he means is that he is no different than any other American that is desperate for the medical field to explore all avenues of possibilities in order to find a cure or treatment. Trump is no scientist or doctor, and he isn't ashamed to ask questions just like any other American out there, and that is just great. Go Trump.Nothing wrong with brainstorming new ideas, just not in a news conference. When a president speaks it should be clear and not subject to interpretation. The public needs to hear real information, not hunches, feelings, and guesses."So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting."And I don't mind a Prez that isn't afraid to ask stupid questions.,. I've been in enough science/tech meetings with stupid questions -- including a few of my own.. And it's PART of having honest, open inquiry.. And SOMETIMES leads to breakthroughs...
And here y'all are going all NIGHT on the political angle.. Like politicians never say stupid things. It's the TRANSPARENT ones ASKING questions that have "leadership" ability...
Now he claims he was just being sarcastic.
Could have been.. I do not GET the reaction to this.. WHAT was suggesting people "inject"?? The discussion was about COvid sensitivity to UV... It's a TRUE game changer for cleaning LARGE open areas effectively without exposing dozens of maintenance workers... Any RATIONAL person believe that Trump was motivating people to go buy a 3 ft UV fiber optic illuminator and EAT IT??
This is just an insane way to BLOW OFF the most important part of this story...
Yes ultraviolet light can kill the virus if the exposure is long enough and the light is intense enough but so will chlorine bleach. It certainly could have a use as disinfectant but certainly not as a treatment. You can not disinfect the lungs. UV light damages cells. If somehow you could expose the lungs to high levels of UV, it would most probably kill the patient long before Covid 19 did.
The real damage is not that someone with covid 19 would somehow expose their lungs to UV. The damage comes from pulling researchers off promising treatments to explore a Trump brain fort.
See the full video and transcript of Trump suggesting disinfectant might be injected as a coronavirus cure
Ingesting bleach or other disinfectant is not only incredibly dangerous, but it is not an effective treatment or cure for COVID-19.www.businessinsider.com
So he publicly was thinking on his feet and asked a dumb question.. Happens in science/tech meetings all the fucking time -- with people who should KNOW the answers.. Sometimes even "sarcastically",... And ya know what???? Some times those dumb questions turn on lightbulbs in peoples heads... Everyone here has their hair on fire because Trump DARED to be nakedly transparent in a public space... The fact that he's ENGAGED is a lot more attractive then the do-nothing ankle biters making shit up... AND the American people are seeing that contrast in leadership laid bare...
I'd worry more about the blazing ruins of party leadership on the OTHER side right now given how little they need to contribute to the Covid solutions...
Trumps biggest problem with the media is their interpretation of what he says is not what he meant. When Trump said, "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that." The most simple interpretation is he's asking if a disinfection can be injected into the lungs. What he means, I have no idea.
