Goodbye Hydroxychloroquine. Hello disinfectant and sunlight

[OldLady]

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday. It's the largest look so far of the drug. Your response talking about "poo", certainly factors in on the uselessness of your post.

Not true.. Over 1/2 the physicians in Spain responded to a survey of 6200 Euro physicians and gave HCQuine the highest rating out of 12 possible drug therapies.. And 368 patients is WAAAY to small and the time frame WAAAY to short to draw ANY final conclusions on as has been explained in this thread and with links...

Not true, or just not conclusive?
In fact, the society that publishes the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, in which the French study appeared on March 20, denounced the study on April 3, saying it “does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.”

Furthermore, two subsequent studies conducted in China and France showed nearly opposite results. The French study used hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat 11 patients with severe COVID-19 infections and found “no evidence of rapid antiviral clearance or clinical benefit.” One patient died, two were transferred to intensive care units and one was pulled from the study due to serious complications.

Dr. David Boulware of the University of Minnesota Medical School’s Division of Infectious Diseases and International Medicine is currently running three clinical trials into the drug’s effect on COVID-19.

The first, which launched March 17 and claims to be the first clinical hydroxychloroquine trial into COVID-19 in the U.S., examines prophylactic effects of hydroxychloroquine in exposed patients without symptoms. The second studies the drug’s treatment effects in symptomatic patients, and the third studies prophylaxis in high-risk healthcare workers. You are the typical Trump toad always scrambling to grab that next handful of spaghetti to throw up against the wall.

We can all find studies by this time that back up our prejudices. When it is all done, they may find it has uses in treatment. Trump jumped the gun with his enthusiasm, but we don't know yet. There ARE studies out there showing it has had positive results IN SOME SITUATIONS. Just like the AIDS epidemic, there was a lot of trial and error finding what worked. But now it has become a chronic condition that can be survived. Do not throw out the baby with the bathwater just because you don't like Trump. That's not sensible.

 

[eagle1462010]

It was a dang question............and guess what.......................both have been freaking used in Medical and one is being pushed to go into the lungs to use light to kill the virus.

Desperately holding onto the narrative that your side is using now..........including the media.....

and as they push it..........HYPE IT.......then some dumb ass drinks bleach.

LOOK WHAT TRUMP DID.............YOU PEOPLE ARE PATHETIC.

 

[OldLady]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

UV LIGHT IS A DANG DISINFECTANT............

They use robots now to sterilize ICU rooms for quarantine patients.............the higher bands are used for rooms and no one can enter.............

They are also used in planes...........quick way to sanitize the plane.........

The new tech.....2016.....is a different bandwidth.

Oh don't you start too.

 

[BWK]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

 

[BWK]

It was a dang question............and guess what.......................both have been freaking used in Medical and one is being pushed to go into the lungs to use light to kill the virus.

Desperately holding onto the narrative that your side is using now..........including the media.....

and as they push it..........HYPE IT.......then some dumb ass drinks bleach.

LOOK WHAT TRUMP DID.............YOU PEOPLE ARE PATHETIC.

"Look what Trump did?" Yea, he called it sarcasm. None of what he said exists now. Lol! And you clowns are still pedaling his bs three days later. Can you fucking believe it?

 

[Leo123]

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday. It's the largest look so far of the drug. Your response talking about "poo", certainly factors in on the uselessness of your post.

Not true.. Over 1/2 the physicians in Spain responded to a survey of 6200 Euro physicians and gave HCQuine the highest rating out of 12 possible drug therapies.. And 368 patients is WAAAY to small and the time frame WAAAY to short to draw ANY final conclusions on as has been explained in this thread and with links...

Not true, or just not conclusive?
In fact, the society that publishes the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, in which the French study appeared on March 20, denounced the study on April 3, saying it “does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety.”

Furthermore, two subsequent studies conducted in China and France showed nearly opposite results. The French study used hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat 11 patients with severe COVID-19 infections and found “no evidence of rapid antiviral clearance or clinical benefit.” One patient died, two were transferred to intensive care units and one was pulled from the study due to serious complications.

Dr. David Boulware of the University of Minnesota Medical School’s Division of Infectious Diseases and International Medicine is currently running three clinical trials into the drug’s effect on COVID-19.

The first, which launched March 17 and claims to be the first clinical hydroxychloroquine trial into COVID-19 in the U.S., examines prophylactic effects of hydroxychloroquine in exposed patients without symptoms. The second studies the drug’s treatment effects in symptomatic patients, and the third studies prophylaxis in high-risk healthcare workers. You are the typical Trump toad always scrambling to grab that next handful of spaghetti to throw up against the wall.

We can all find studies by this time that back up our prejudices. When it is all done, they may find it has uses in treatment. Trump jumped the gun with his enthusiasm, but we don't know yet. There ARE studies out there showing it has had positive results IN SOME SITUATIONS. Just like the AIDS epidemic, there was a lot of trial and error finding what worked. But now it has become a chronic condition that can be survived. Do not throw out the baby with the bathwater just because you don't like Trump. That's not sensible.

Apparently enthusiasm is something the TDSers (not you OL) on this board cannot tolerate. They must throw empty accusations and spread their spiteful, crappy, hatred around like a puppy with diarrhea.

 

[eagle1462010]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

UV LIGHT IS A DANG DISINFECTANT............

They use robots now to sterilize ICU rooms for quarantine patients.............the higher bands are used for rooms and no one can enter.............

They are also used in planes...........quick way to sanitize the plane.........

The new tech.....2016.....is a different bandwidth.

Oh don't you start too.

IT WAS A QUESTION.

Wasn't the right time or place but during a Pandemic this Mediia BS is just that......BS.

My Point on UV light being a disinfectant is SPOT ON.

Trump commented on them both..........light and possible surface use .........Asked CAN IT BE DONE.

Well YES IT CAN...........and it sure as hell doesn't mean drinking Bleach..........Later the Reporter used that in a question and the MEDIA RAN WITH IT.

1. Trump didn't say drink bleach.......

2. Trump asked if it COULD BE DONE...........YES IT CAN.....it is possible.

3. The MEDIA HYPE is for politics........at a time when our country is FUCKED..........This will not end well if we don't open the hell back up...........Maybe this is what they want...........I don't freaking no.

I'm OVER THIS NONSENSE.......as I watch my country getting hammered by a dang virus.

 

[OldLady]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

I'm not buying that Trump was being sarcastic. No one is buying it, actually. Not even his supporters. So it's not really a relevant point. Trump was lying, trying to squirm out of a really unfortunate exchange on television. I'm glad he's grounded. We'll see how long he can stand not being the center of attention.

 

[BWK]

Trump is not making anything up.
The problems seems to be that the left wingers are blinded by their hate.
UV blood treatment

Blood irradiation therapy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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UV treatments were common in 30's 40's and 50's as a method of killing bacteria and viruses in the human body. The development of antibiotics and antivirals made the treatment superfluous plus there was no scientific studies that found it effective. However, there are other reasons mainstream medical science does not use this treatment and has not subjected to rigorous testing. First of all, not only are artificial ultraviolet techniques ineffective and likely deadly for treating an infected person, scientists say, some of them can be extremely dangerous used at home for disinfecting. According to Dr. Bob Lahita, chairman of medicine at St. Joseph University Hospital, the only proven effective us of UV as a treatment has been with psoriasis. UV light is dangerous to humans and is known to cause skin cancer. By the time the virus has taken hold inside your body, no amount of UV light on your skin is going to make a difference. Introducing ultraviolet radiation in the lungs is just too absurd to discuss.

REALLY? Then explain this...

UV bacteria-killing robot cleans hospital rooms far better than humans

Hospital-acquired infections are needlessly running rampant; perhaps modern cleaning techniques are not powerful enough. But there is hope - UV bacteria-killing robots.

interestingengineering.com

There are hazards to chronic exposure to UV.. Depends on the WAVELENGTHS used... When the dentist is filling cavities or gluing crowns, they hand you a pair of UV glasses. Assemblers on some of product lines use precautions when using UV to cure epoxies and other "UV engineered" materials.

The opportunities to EXPAND this use that I'm NOW looking into since that press conference verified that COVID CAN be killed with UV would be products that clean large open spaces when people are not present.. And the ideas for cleaning "nooks and crannies"without a lot of human exposure would be CONTAINED within some means of public transport that HAVEN'T used this technology ...

We have to be careful tho... Because just like OVER using antibiotics or not taking them as prescribed -- we can create super bugs that BECOME UV resistant.. So you cannot do a HALF ASS job of employing it to save THOUSANDS of lives during even a "normal" flu season...

That says bacteria. Corana is a virus.

You're so focused on making shit up about the presentation at that press conference that you MISSED the big news that UV IS an effective "disinfectant" for Covid on surfaces??? Or did all you morons NEVER WATCH that presentation.. And YES MANY of the flu viruses are destroyed by UV..

You do realize that those surfaces were not inside the body like Drumpf was suggesting right?

I'm not focused on Trump farts like you're drawn to them.. The stuff I absorb from those press conferences are ALL the news I need to get on COVID..


However -- if you missed it in this thread -- there is a public stock company RIGHT NOW investigating using UV INSIDE THE BODY to knock out Covid 19... And Twitter and Google are TRYING to supress any mention of it. THAT gets my attention also when those primadonnas believe they are the POLITICAL gatekeepers of science/tech knowledge.. Are you CONCERNED about THAT?

So "stupid questions" are a valid way of brain storming even in the higher altitudes of science and learning... Pardon me if a Trump fart like that barely moves me to hate him more...

Hah! Mystery solved. Breitbart got to the bottom of it:

YouTube and Twitter Censor Pharma Company Researching UV Light Treatment for Chinese Virus

Twitter and YouTube have censored AYTU BioScience, a publicly-traded Colorado-based pharmaceutical company, after it promoted ultraviolet (UV) light developed in conjunction with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center as a potential treatment for the Chinese virus. Twitter later reversed its censorship...

www.breitbart.com

Twitter later reversed its censorship, saying the company’s account was “mistakenly” caught in a spam filter.

AYTU is publicly traded on the NASDAQ index. In its research on UV light treatment for the coronavirus, it is working with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, a major hospital in Los Angeles. The hospital was founded in 1902 and employs over 2,000 physicians.

More information about the “Healight” UV Light treatment being researched by AYTU and Cedars-Sinai can be found on the latter’s website.

Imagine YOU having to quote Breitbart... Much respect for the hurt you suffered doing that...

Yeah........youtube killed the video..........twitter killed the video.................imagine that......

And this research started in 2016...........now you have to go to sites that saved the video and articles to get the information..............

Tells you who owns youtube, google, and twitter.

No, it got caught in a spam filter and Twitter reposted it. I put the article up a few pages back.

That was a different site.................the main video was killed on youtube and twitter.........THEY KILLED IT.

I posted them the other day...........and POOF they were gone...

Not before other sites copied them.........LOL ..........OOPS.

Another TDSer not reading thru the thread.. YOU MORON.. You just destroyed your whole phony meme here -- because CLEARLY the context was NOT bleach, or lysol or isopropyl alcohol -- it was UV LIGHT...

And for about 8 pages here we've discussing a company that just announced their intentions to test a UV light disinfectant system to be administered thru a scope into the trachea... But as clueless as you are -- you SKIPPED all that and PROVED -- his comments were about using UV light -- not those other things you imbeciles have been memeing about..

Do you even KNOW the difference??? I doubt it...

Idiot....

Bryan: We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.​

​

Impeached Trump: ' Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me. ​

BWK just BLEW you CLEAR out of tthe water.. Because you just short quoted 2 things that happened about 5 minutes apart... Trump CLEARLY is referring to UV light, not bleach, alcohol, lysol...

You two dim bulbs deserve each other... And the DISHONESTY in selective quoting is fixed by just watching what BWK just posted here..,,.,. NOT A WORD about other disinfectants. Trump STARTS and ENDS by discussing UV light,...

Goodbye Hydroxychloroquine. Hello disinfectant and sunlight

Hmmm, does this make Obama complicit in this or is he just some kind of profetic guru or something ?? What did he know, and when did he know it ?? Here's the good news, Obama wasn't talking about injecting disinfectants.

www.usmessageboard.com

Speaking of dim bulbs, it was last Friday when Trump called all this shit sarcasm. And here you are pedaling UV lights, disinfectants, and who knows what all, calling Trump a liar, and you don't even know it. This is funny as shit. You want to know what a dim bulb looks like, just read the last Trump supporters posts from the last three days about shit he doesn't support. Lol!

 

[beagle9]

Disinfectant means BLEEEAAACH, CLOROX or AMMONIA.
We know what are disinfectant are... but you gullibles don’t. trying to twist his words defending this dumb ignorant Trump.

There are only three disinfectants?

Odd. The EPA lists 392 different catalog numbers for disinfectants suitable for use against COVID-19.

But...you say there are only three.

Oh, bother! Who to believe, who to believe?!

Suitable in what way?


Just to be clear because it seems to be a necessity these days. From your link:

These products are for use on surfaces, NOT humans.

Yes, I read that. It changes Charmin's claim in no way at all.

Like I said, I'm just clarifying that these products are not meant to be used internally.

Okay. Would you agree that Charmin's claim that there are only three disinfectants is indeed false?

It's okay. You can admit it. You won't burst into flames. I promise.

It doesn’t matter what and how many disinfectant I mentioned. Disinfectant is disinfectant. Since you mentioned and you know so much about disinfectant.
Tell me which one are suitable disinfectant to you can inject to human. I’ll wait. You cannot be this stupid.

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It's not what disinfectant, but that the word disinfect means to cleanse or make clean. The body has always been a proving ground for a number of treatments and trials that attempt to rid the bloodstream of infections/bacterial or viral. Get over it, and abandon this ridiculous narrative y'all keep running with in order to attack Trump. No one is this stupid.

Except for one thing, Trump was talking about injecting a disinfectant into the body to "cleanse or make clean."

By the way, why are Trump supporters still talking about supporting Trumps statements on disinfectants and UV lights, when he said all of that talk was sarcasm? Why are you all calling Trump a liar? The more you talk about his sarcasms, the more you accuse him of not telling the truth. Lol!

No, he was saying that it would be nice if there was something being developed that could be injected into the body, and could work to kill the virus just like a disinfectant does outside of the body. I agree with him that it would be nice.... Coumadin is a blood medicine that also was developed for helping people with certain conditions, and hey if we have developed medicines that radically work inside of the body, then the sky is the limit, but we should also pray about it as well when doing research, because God can help us through our strange times if we ask him, and if we have faith in him. He is working with us and not against us, and we thank him for that.

 

[Leo123]

It was a dang question............and guess what.......................both have been freaking used in Medical and one is being pushed to go into the lungs to use light to kill the virus.

Desperately holding onto the narrative that your side is using now..........including the media.....

and as they push it..........HYPE IT.......then some dumb ass drinks bleach.

LOOK WHAT TRUMP DID.............YOU PEOPLE ARE PATHETIC.

"Look what Trump did?" Yea, he called it sarcasm. None of what he said exists now. Lol! And you clowns are still pedaling his bs three days later. Can you fucking believe it?

Oh gee...Trump was 'sarcastic' triggered much? And what he said DOES exist now. Prove your claims and, BTW, I am still waiting for your support of any quote from Trump that proves what you claim. It's been a few days now. Yet here you are peddling the same old bullshit. Now you have pivoted to Trump being 'sarcastic'......What a complete dufus you are.

 

[eagle1462010]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

I'm not buying that Trump was being sarcastic. No one is buying it, actually. Not even his supporters. So it's not really a relevant point. Trump was lying, trying to squirm out of a really unfortunate exchange on television. I'm glad he's grounded. We'll see how long he can stand not being the center of attention.

He wasn't..............they are playing politic on that side...........

The Media is doing a disservice to this nation right now...............this isn't the time for this BS

 

[beagle9]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

I'm not buying that Trump was being sarcastic. No one is buying it, actually. Not even his supporters. So it's not really a relevant point. Trump was lying, trying to squirm out of a really unfortunate exchange on television. I'm glad he's grounded. We'll see how long he can stand not being the center of attention.

Trump shouldn't have given into the attacks by the left where as he may have come up with a sarcastic response for them, but it best he stand proud like always, and stand his ground in the midst of their attacks.

 

[BWK]

Disinfectant means BLEEEAAACH, CLOROX or AMMONIA.
We know what are disinfectant are... but you gullibles don’t. trying to twist his words defending this dumb ignorant Trump.

There are only three disinfectants?

Odd. The EPA lists 392 different catalog numbers for disinfectants suitable for use against COVID-19.

But...you say there are only three.

Oh, bother! Who to believe, who to believe?!

Suitable in what way?


Just to be clear because it seems to be a necessity these days. From your link:

These products are for use on surfaces, NOT humans.

Yes, I read that. It changes Charmin's claim in no way at all.

Like I said, I'm just clarifying that these products are not meant to be used internally.

Okay. Would you agree that Charmin's claim that there are only three disinfectants is indeed false?

It's okay. You can admit it. You won't burst into flames. I promise.

It doesn’t matter what and how many disinfectant I mentioned. Disinfectant is disinfectant. Since you mentioned and you know so much about disinfectant.
Tell me which one are suitable disinfectant to you can inject to human. I’ll wait. You cannot be this stupid.

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It's not what disinfectant, but that the word disinfect means to cleanse or make clean. The body has always been a proving ground for a number of treatments and trials that attempt to rid the bloodstream of infections/bacterial or viral. Get over it, and abandon this ridiculous narrative y'all keep running with in order to attack Trump. No one is this stupid.

Except for one thing, Trump was talking about injecting a disinfectant into the body to "cleanse or make clean."

By the way, why are Trump supporters still talking about supporting Trumps statements on disinfectants and UV lights, when he said all of that talk was sarcasm? Why are you all calling Trump a liar? The more you talk about his sarcasms, the more you accuse him of not telling the truth. Lol!

No, he was saying that it would be nice if there was something being developed that could be injected into the body, and could work to kill the virus just like a disinfectant does outside of the body. I agree with him that it would be nice.... Coumadin is a blood medicine that also was developed for helping people with certain conditions, and hey if we have developed medicines that radically work inside of the body, then the sky is the limit, but we should also pray about it as well when doing research, because God can help us through our strange times if we ask him, and if we have faith in him. He is working with us and not against us, and we thank him for that.

Right now, Trump is working against us. "Sarcasm?" Seriously? 50,000 dead people and he uses sarcasm? We have to do better than this. He wastes time at the cost of human life on sarcasm. Please God, help us find someone who can really help us.

 

[Leo123]

Trump is not making anything up.
The problems seems to be that the left wingers are blinded by their hate.
UV blood treatment

Blood irradiation therapy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

View attachment 328361

UV treatments were common in 30's 40's and 50's as a method of killing bacteria and viruses in the human body. The development of antibiotics and antivirals made the treatment superfluous plus there was no scientific studies that found it effective. However, there are other reasons mainstream medical science does not use this treatment and has not subjected to rigorous testing. First of all, not only are artificial ultraviolet techniques ineffective and likely deadly for treating an infected person, scientists say, some of them can be extremely dangerous used at home for disinfecting. According to Dr. Bob Lahita, chairman of medicine at St. Joseph University Hospital, the only proven effective us of UV as a treatment has been with psoriasis. UV light is dangerous to humans and is known to cause skin cancer. By the time the virus has taken hold inside your body, no amount of UV light on your skin is going to make a difference. Introducing ultraviolet radiation in the lungs is just too absurd to discuss.

REALLY? Then explain this...

UV bacteria-killing robot cleans hospital rooms far better than humans

Hospital-acquired infections are needlessly running rampant; perhaps modern cleaning techniques are not powerful enough. But there is hope - UV bacteria-killing robots.

interestingengineering.com

There are hazards to chronic exposure to UV.. Depends on the WAVELENGTHS used... When the dentist is filling cavities or gluing crowns, they hand you a pair of UV glasses. Assemblers on some of product lines use precautions when using UV to cure epoxies and other "UV engineered" materials.

The opportunities to EXPAND this use that I'm NOW looking into since that press conference verified that COVID CAN be killed with UV would be products that clean large open spaces when people are not present.. And the ideas for cleaning "nooks and crannies"without a lot of human exposure would be CONTAINED within some means of public transport that HAVEN'T used this technology ...

We have to be careful tho... Because just like OVER using antibiotics or not taking them as prescribed -- we can create super bugs that BECOME UV resistant.. So you cannot do a HALF ASS job of employing it to save THOUSANDS of lives during even a "normal" flu season...

That says bacteria. Corana is a virus.

You're so focused on making shit up about the presentation at that press conference that you MISSED the big news that UV IS an effective "disinfectant" for Covid on surfaces??? Or did all you morons NEVER WATCH that presentation.. And YES MANY of the flu viruses are destroyed by UV..

You do realize that those surfaces were not inside the body like Drumpf was suggesting right?

I'm not focused on Trump farts like you're drawn to them.. The stuff I absorb from those press conferences are ALL the news I need to get on COVID..


However -- if you missed it in this thread -- there is a public stock company RIGHT NOW investigating using UV INSIDE THE BODY to knock out Covid 19... And Twitter and Google are TRYING to supress any mention of it. THAT gets my attention also when those primadonnas believe they are the POLITICAL gatekeepers of science/tech knowledge.. Are you CONCERNED about THAT?

So "stupid questions" are a valid way of brain storming even in the higher altitudes of science and learning... Pardon me if a Trump fart like that barely moves me to hate him more...

Hah! Mystery solved. Breitbart got to the bottom of it:

YouTube and Twitter Censor Pharma Company Researching UV Light Treatment for Chinese Virus

Twitter and YouTube have censored AYTU BioScience, a publicly-traded Colorado-based pharmaceutical company, after it promoted ultraviolet (UV) light developed in conjunction with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center as a potential treatment for the Chinese virus. Twitter later reversed its censorship...

www.breitbart.com

Twitter later reversed its censorship, saying the company’s account was “mistakenly” caught in a spam filter.

AYTU is publicly traded on the NASDAQ index. In its research on UV light treatment for the coronavirus, it is working with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, a major hospital in Los Angeles. The hospital was founded in 1902 and employs over 2,000 physicians.

More information about the “Healight” UV Light treatment being researched by AYTU and Cedars-Sinai can be found on the latter’s website.

Imagine YOU having to quote Breitbart... Much respect for the hurt you suffered doing that...

Yeah........youtube killed the video..........twitter killed the video.................imagine that......

And this research started in 2016...........now you have to go to sites that saved the video and articles to get the information..............

Tells you who owns youtube, google, and twitter.

No, it got caught in a spam filter and Twitter reposted it. I put the article up a few pages back.

That was a different site.................the main video was killed on youtube and twitter.........THEY KILLED IT.

I posted them the other day...........and POOF they were gone...

Not before other sites copied them.........LOL ..........OOPS.

Another TDSer not reading thru the thread.. YOU MORON.. You just destroyed your whole phony meme here -- because CLEARLY the context was NOT bleach, or lysol or isopropyl alcohol -- it was UV LIGHT...

And for about 8 pages here we've discussing a company that just announced their intentions to test a UV light disinfectant system to be administered thru a scope into the trachea... But as clueless as you are -- you SKIPPED all that and PROVED -- his comments were about using UV light -- not those other things you imbeciles have been memeing about..

Do you even KNOW the difference??? I doubt it...

Idiot....

Bryan: We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.​

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Impeached Trump: ' Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me. ​

BWK just BLEW you CLEAR out of tthe water.. Because you just short quoted 2 things that happened about 5 minutes apart... Trump CLEARLY is referring to UV light, not bleach, alcohol, lysol...

You two dim bulbs deserve each other... And the DISHONESTY in selective quoting is fixed by just watching what BWK just posted here..,,.,. NOT A WORD about other disinfectants. Trump STARTS and ENDS by discussing UV light,...

Goodbye Hydroxychloroquine. Hello disinfectant and sunlight

Hmmm, does this make Obama complicit in this or is he just some kind of profetic guru or something ?? What did he know, and when did he know it ?? Here's the good news, Obama wasn't talking about injecting disinfectants.

www.usmessageboard.com

Speaking of dim bulbs, it was last Friday when Trump called all this shit sarcasm. And here you are pedaling UV lights, disinfectants, and who knows what all, calling Trump a liar, and you don't even know it. This is funny as shit. You want to know what a dim bulb looks like, just read the last Trump supporters posts from the last three days about shit he doesn't support. Lol!

If you ask me, you're the dim bulb. Making stupid statements like "Trump called all this shit".....What 'shit' dufus? All you do is come on here and blather and insult people. You don't know what Trump supports because you only get your information from other TDSers and the TDS MSM. I proved you wrong many times and you can't admit it. I posted the transcription of the press conference a couple of times and highlighted the phrases Trump said that CONTRADICT everything you claim. You ignored it and started throwing insults. Are you a juvenile or something?

 

[MisterBeale]

Governors Report Influx Of Calls About Disinfectant After Trump Treatment Suggestion

Scary...

Probably a bunch of far leftist crank callers so that they could make a story. . . . .


You do know that when the NY mayor made a snitch line to rat out your neighbor, that a bunch of righties swamped it with crank tweets and photo bombs to give him a piece of their mind.

Everyone knows now, both on the left AND the right, that this "epidemic" is a STATE staged crises, and thus, to keep it going, folks need to toe the line.

Folks on the right need to resist, folks on the left need to act scared and fan the flames if they want more government control, tyranny, and socialization.

Things are starting to get awfully transparent at this point.

Of course there will be people grab on to this idea. After all the president did. There are millions of people out there that are seriously lacking in common sense. That's why the president should not be standing in front of the nation and make suggestions and comments about stuff he knows nothing about. Now people in the CDC, local, and state governments will have to issue statements telling people not spend their days sitting under an ultraviolet lamp or drinking bleach. Trump has just created another distraction the nation does not need.

All that time and resources wasted trying to keep people from injecting Bleach instead of focusing on finding a cure. Drumpf is a fucking jackass.

No 'cure' is needed.

You have an immune system.

This has less than .5 fatality. Don't worry about it. Open up the economy and let the creator carry home who it will, let nature take it's course.

We need to stop trying to play god.

This has the same lethality as the annual flu.

Trying to control the universe and play good is what is known as Lucifarianism.

Yep, the immune system is the best defense. This seems to be more and more evident as reports come in about vast numbers of people showing that they already had the virus and got over it. Even in CA they are saying the virus may have peaked way back in December. Meanwhile the left is Pooh Poohing 'herd immunity.' Logically, if one puts oneself in a bubble, the immune system will be more vulnerable and every virus will become 'novel.' This whole shut down is ludicrous. Fauci and the rest of those idiot 'medical experts' should be given their waking papers.

Hasn't really been proven one way or another that there is any immunity even if you've already contracted the virus.

It's a virus and viruses create immunity if one doesn't get gravely ill. If that were not so, there would be no reason to get yearly flu shots which introduce as watered down version of a virus. Also, people who have had this Covid-19 are giving blood because it can be given to cure those afflicted. Read up before posting such crap please.

Well. . . that is not necessarily so.

Some viruses are different. Like HIV, HPV, the viruses that cause cold sores etc. Once you are infected, they stay in your system, and only present when your body becomes unbalanced, like if your Ph balance is off, or you are stressed, etc.

. . . but this is a Coronavirus, e.g. A COLD, a respiratory infection. Most common colds are rhinoviruses.

There is no reason to believe it acts any different than any other seasonal cold. It is just a bit worse of a respiratory infection. Once you have built up an immunity, boom, you should be done with it until it mutates and comes around next year. Neither SARS or MERS are permanent conditions either. Those are also respiratory infections are also corona viruses.

Otherwise, every animal in the animal kingdom would be extinct from their corona-viruses that these came from.

I swear. . . the problem with the authoritarian left? They only believe what their "experts" tell them to think. NO CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.

Actually it's quite different than the common cold. You know those funny looking crowns on the virus. They make it easy for the virus to attach itself to cells in the lungs. In fact it's adhesion ability is up to a hundred times greater than other coronaviruses. This is important because in order to replicate, it has to attach to cells and break into them. It replicate rapidly and spreads throughout the lungs. Another difference is age makes little difference in cold infections where this coronavirus seems to bypass the young. Another difference is the common cold will usually settles in the upper respiratory system where this cornavirus takes aim at lungs. And there is another important different. Unlike Covid 19, the common cold rarely results in a hospital stay and death is very rare.

If you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know that this one rarely results in hospital stays as well.

And like other more common corona-viruses, this one rarely results in death as well.

This doctor has run the studies;



As has Dr. Fauci;
". . .This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS. . ."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?fbclid=IwAR2dEJYOp3V-jFePwYLT7oJZZDSTzfFkT6blOkGEtMGHYHo6aWFrh3dIqoc

Why do you keep lying? Is it because you are ignorant, or because you do not know better?

 

[OldLady]

Trump didn't say drink bleach.......

No, he asked if they can inject disinfectant, or some other way....
He already talked about UV light. Then he switched to talking about disinfectants, which Bryan had also talked about--rubbing alcohol and bleach. It was not the reporter's fault that Trump asked that and suggested they look into it. The reporter was just the first of MANY not in the media but concerned about the idiots in the population to toll the warning bell about that concept.
Do not be this guy:

 

[flacaltenn]

Not true, or just not conclusive?

I have no idea what you just pulled out of the internet dumpster... It was NOT "a French study".. It was a metastudy (look it up genius) compiled by a company that specializes in getting physicians quick and timely and valuable information on fast moving health crises...

It's been posted in THIS thread at LEAST 3 times.. But it bored you.... So I'll post it AGAIN and you'll be too busy googling retorts to READ it...

Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) Thread

You sound paranoid people are critical of Trump for nefarious reasons. Like, educated doctors who criticize him and his drug comments or opinions are only trying to hurt him. None of them really cares about patients and Doctor stuff. Doctors, who disagree with Trump are just evil? I don't...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[BWK]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

I'm not buying that Trump was being sarcastic. No one is buying it, actually. Not even his supporters. So it's not really a relevant point. Trump was lying, trying to squirm out of a really unfortunate exchange on television. I'm glad he's grounded. We'll see how long he can stand not being the center of attention.

He wasn't..............they are playing politic on that side...........

The Media is doing a disservice to this nation right now...............this isn't the time for this BS

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

I'm not buying that Trump was being sarcastic. No one is buying it, actually. Not even his supporters. So it's not really a relevant point. Trump was lying, trying to squirm out of a really unfortunate exchange on television. I'm glad he's grounded. We'll see how long he can stand not being the center of attention.

No, neither am I. But look at the cowards and low lifes that they are. They know he got caught lying, said nothing about it, then go and cover for him even more by talking up, what he referred to as sarcasm. These folks have zero self respect, dignity, decency, honesty. And this is exactly why we are in this mess. It's a continuous barrage of cover ups for Trump while they argue on the sidelines on his behalf. It's really a sick thing to watch every day, but it's exactly what they do.

 

[OldLady]

Do you know what UV light is? Did you read the 25 or 30 posts about Ayla, the publicly traded company that also makes Covid Test Kits -- designing and testing a system that "delivers disinfecting UV LIGHT INTO THE BODY -- to destroy COVID 19??? If not -- how did you MISS THAT when you're posting 12 or 15 posts an hour here???

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INJECTING DISINFECTANT!!! NOT FUCKING UV LIGHT. You have been trying to change to subject to UV light now for two days and it's still not the point.
You are either being willfully blind to defend your secret hero, or there is something drastically wrong with your ability to follow the flow of a normal conversation. Bryan had just spent ten minutes meticulously talking about what kills the virus. He talked about disinfectants, specifically rubbing alcohol and bleach. Trump immediately raised the topic of first, UV light, and THEN asked if there was a way to inject disinfectant? If they'd looked into it? He suggested they should. He even asked Dr. Birx if any research had been done on it.

Now quit with the UV light thing. No one at home has any way to inject sunshine that I know of, so I think that was a safe topic to discuss. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DISINFECTANT.

What kills me here with these toads, is the fact that they are hell bent on supporting Trumps sarcasm as a real thing. Trump already back pedaled like the coward he is by telling us it was sarcasm, and his cultist Sheep still haven't figured out Trump is not supporting his own crazy talk from Thursday. Yet, his Sheep are still supporting Trumps non-existent ideas. Can you believe that shit?

I'm not buying that Trump was being sarcastic. No one is buying it, actually. Not even his supporters. So it's not really a relevant point. Trump was lying, trying to squirm out of a really unfortunate exchange on television. I'm glad he's grounded. We'll see how long he can stand not being the center of attention.

He wasn't..............they are playing politic on that side...........

The Media is doing a disservice to this nation right now...............this isn't the time for this BS

The Media reporting Trump's words is not "their fault." It's their job.