GOP lawmaker asks doctor whether COVID vaccines have a tracking device

[Dusty]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

 

[Dusty]

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

source

Key facts about Americans and guns

Six-in-ten U.S. adults say gun violence is a very big problem in the country today, up 9 percentage points from spring 2022.

www.pewresearch.org

Do you have a source for your claim that it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot than ever using a gun to protect anything at all?

Don't have to go any farther then your own words CUT AND PASTE FROM YOUR OWN WORDS ""I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot."" If you can't understand your own words , what can I say/ By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

I understand my own words. I also understand that missing my target and hitting a dirt embankment or hitting foliage is not the same thing as "shooting something I don't want to shoot".

I did ask for a source for your claim "you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.".

"Oh, and just FYI, I have been shooting since I was 7 or 8 years old. I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot. I was trained as a kid in the basics of gun safety. And it stuck." Post 214- If you miss something you shoot at, the bullet is going where you don't want it to go. So you are hitting something you are not aiming at. You can't hide from your own words. By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

Yes, my bullet did not hit where I wanted. But what you said was "...it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot...". Even though I missed my target, I do not care that I shot an embankment or some foliage. There is a difference between not hitting what I wanted to hit and hitting something I did not want to hit.

Since you have ignored my request for a source for your claim, I can only guess that you are saying my request that you provide backup for your claim is being ignored because I am not someone who counts?

What a bullshitter Nope what I said Is you are

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

Ok lets look at the numbers, you seem to like them, there is a massive decrease in the number of households that have guns and there is a massive increase in the sales of guns in this country. The increase amount are going to the people who tried to bring down our country to force in a piece of shit dictator. People who should be the last people in the world to be able to own guns in this country, right now the best law that could be written is that groups that are a enemy and threat to this country shouldn't be able to buy guns, the biggest threat and enemy of this country now is the right wing, they have no qualms about destoying our country and democracy to stay in power. Their new name is Hate Nazi's

There is also a decrease in murders involving firearms.

Means nothing , there is a decrease in all crime groups even including white collar crime.

Means nothing? The problem most people have with guns is that they are used to murder people. A drop in the murder rates involving guns means a lot.

It means nothing other than all crimes are reducing in numbers.Says nothing about any crime specifically. Was that your point ace.

My point is that the violent crime rates have dropped. If you want to call that irrelevant, that is up to you.

Never

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

source

Key facts about Americans and guns

Six-in-ten U.S. adults say gun violence is a very big problem in the country today, up 9 percentage points from spring 2022.

www.pewresearch.org

Do you have a source for your claim that it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot than ever using a gun to protect anything at all?

Don't have to go any farther then your own words CUT AND PASTE FROM YOUR OWN WORDS ""I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot."" If you can't understand your own words , what can I say/ By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

I understand my own words. I also understand that missing my target and hitting a dirt embankment or hitting foliage is not the same thing as "shooting something I don't want to shoot".

I did ask for a source for your claim "you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.".

"Oh, and just FYI, I have been shooting since I was 7 or 8 years old. I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot. I was trained as a kid in the basics of gun safety. And it stuck." Post 214- If you miss something you shoot at, the bullet is going where you don't want it to go. So you are hitting something you are not aiming at. You can't hide from your own words. By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

Yes, my bullet did not hit where I wanted. But what you said was "...it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot...". Even though I missed my target, I do not care that I shot an embankment or some foliage. There is a difference between not hitting what I wanted to hit and hitting something I did not want to hit.

Since you have ignored my request for a source for your claim, I can only guess that you are saying my request that you provide backup for your claim is being ignored because I am not someone who counts?

said that did i , I said it means nothing specific since all crime rates for every crime has decreased.

And still no source for your claim.

About 40% of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun, and 22% of individuals (about 72 million people) report owning a gun, according to surveys from Pew and Harvard and Northeastern. This figure has declined over time, down from 51% of gun-owning households in 1978. Gun purchases, however, have hit historic highs in recent years and during the COVID-19 pandemic.


Americans also own a disproportionate share of the world’s firearms: The U.S. has just 4% of the world’s population but owns about 40% of civilian-owned guns globally, according to a 2018 report from the Switzerland-based Small Arms Survey. How Many Gun Owners Are In The United States?

The gun numbers: just 3% of American adults own a collective 133m firearms​

Facts show owning more than 40 guns is actually fairly common in the United States, and violence falls most heavily on the country’s poorest neighborhoods The gun numbers: just 3% of American adults own a collective 133m firearms

Despite mass shootings, number of households owning guns is on the decline

Half of all guns are concentrated among 3 percent of Americans

www.cbsnews.com

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YOU AREN"T EVEN CLOSE TO KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YUK YUK! So much more effective waiting to source things .

How many homes in North Korea have guns?

You may resume eating dirt

So if I even knew, it still wouldn't mean shit. You are trying to compare America to North Korea. You must be kidding.

Look kid if you take away all of the guns then America is North Korea. One of the reasons for the second amendment is so that Americans can rise up against an oppressive government. If their are no guns then anyone can come into your house for any reason or anytime. Which is what North Korea has. So the truth is if you want guns banned you should move your lazy ass to North Korea NOW.

So you got the balls

CIAO

How do you spell stupid. I never said once about banning anything ace. Here's the problem ace, the people that are storing up all the guns and Amo are this countries biggest threat and enemy, we saw them in action trying to bring down our democracy and government and killing people at the capital. This countries stupid if we let this countries biggest threat and enemy buy or own guns. That is the group I would never let have a gun . They lost their voice and privileges in this country when they tried to destroy it.

As far as I know, the people who perpetrated the attack on 1/6 are going to be prosecuted. A felony conviction means they can't legally own a firearm.

There have been 400 people arrested in connection with the events on 1/6. If there were any firearms involved, they were few and far between. Do you think taking guns away from 400 people will change things?

It’s a start!

Towards what?

We take guns and voting rights away from ALL felons, not just the ones who used them to commit their crimes.

In the case of 1/6, these were violent people who should of ALL people, lose their guns.

Wonder if Proud Boys, 3-Percenters & Oath Keepers are still allowed in the club if they can’t pack 24/7/365?

Oh I agree that all of those convicted of a felony from 1/6 events should lose their right to own guns. But you called it a "good start". If it is just a start, who else loses their 2nd amendment rights?

That one is simple , we are stupid to let this countries biggest threat and enemy to have any gun at all. So that then includes the 70% of the right that supported or suports the attempt to bring down our government. by destroying our democracy. If anything there guns should be taken away because they are two stupid to be able to have them.

I understand how the 400+ will be prosecuted and their guns removed if convicted.

But the 70% that you say supported them? How will you prosecute them and remove their guns?

Told you that already I would destroy and bring down their hate party , quite simple actually. erase them out of American politics . Real conservatives are a strong group and will be able to put together a voice and party that reflects conservative values , all this group supports is hate driven lies now, get rid of the hate party , very doable. As far as guns are concerned , maximize looking into people who want to buy guns or get a license to carry. Find out if they are aligned in anyway with right wing hate groups around the country.

It seems that right now, you consider the republican party a hate group. Are you going to prosecute every republican?

You say it is doable. You want to prosecute or persecute people for their political beliefs, despite the fact they have committed no crime?

Good God where in the hell did I say prosicuting all hate party members is doable.. Go away or make sense. and yes the Republican party is made up of a majority of hate driven traitors to my country. They are a clear cut threat and enemy of our Democracy and country, No one can support the destruction of our democracy to force in a piece of shit for a dictator and get away with it.

Trump qualified as a candidate, according to all the rules in place at the time. He was elected in a fair election by the majority of electoral votes.

I didn't like Trump at all. When he was elected I said it was going to hell in a hand basket. But unless someone commits a felony, and is convicted, their 2nd amendment rights remain intact.

The fact is that bill gates wants everyone vaccinated to wear a microchip to identify who they are and when they were vaccinated and with what and include a batch number. This is fact

 

[DrLove]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

 

[WinterBorn]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

Yeah, when he first put forth the idea that them asking your name when they give you the vaccine is proof they are tracking you, I asked if he had EVER had any medical procedure in which they did not ask his name. But Dusty refuses to answer questions. He asks them, but doesn't answer them.

 

[DrLove]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

Yeah, when he first put forth the idea that them asking your name when they give you the vaccine is proof they are tracking you, I asked if he had EVER had any medical procedure in which they did not ask his name. But Dusty refuses to answer questions. He asks them, but doesn't answer them.

Don’t spend too much effort with that one.

 

[jbander]

The insanity is that the right thinks we should continue to arm and not take away weapons from this countries biggest threat and enemy. They are just nuts. Letting them have guns , Makes no sense to anyone who has the capacity to think. NO patriot in this country supports us putting guns into the hands of this countries enemy's/

And who determines whether someone is nuts or not? Do you judge them by who they vote for? Are they nuts because they like guns and/or hunting?

Anyone who supports Trump is this countries biggest threat and enemy. How many times do I have to tell you this.

Nah.
I am far left and dislike Trump, but he has not killed tens of thousands of innocent people by starting a war or anything.
He is fairly average as far as presidents go.

Comedy, what do yo think was going to happen if the election was stopped by Trump and his followers, once the pile of shit realized he had that power to do that. Are you that naive. It was a attempted over throw of our democracy and government and there was going to be one person in charge. Your average president.

 

[jbander]

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

source

Key facts about Americans and guns

Six-in-ten U.S. adults say gun violence is a very big problem in the country today, up 9 percentage points from spring 2022.

www.pewresearch.org

Do you have a source for your claim that it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot than ever using a gun to protect anything at all?

Don't have to go any farther then your own words CUT AND PASTE FROM YOUR OWN WORDS ""I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot."" If you can't understand your own words , what can I say/ By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

I understand my own words. I also understand that missing my target and hitting a dirt embankment or hitting foliage is not the same thing as "shooting something I don't want to shoot".

I did ask for a source for your claim "you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.".

"Oh, and just FYI, I have been shooting since I was 7 or 8 years old. I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot. I was trained as a kid in the basics of gun safety. And it stuck." Post 214- If you miss something you shoot at, the bullet is going where you don't want it to go. So you are hitting something you are not aiming at. You can't hide from your own words. By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

Yes, my bullet did not hit where I wanted. But what you said was "...it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot...". Even though I missed my target, I do not care that I shot an embankment or some foliage. There is a difference between not hitting what I wanted to hit and hitting something I did not want to hit.

Since you have ignored my request for a source for your claim, I can only guess that you are saying my request that you provide backup for your claim is being ignored because I am not someone who counts?

What a bullshitter Nope what I said Is you are

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

Ok lets look at the numbers, you seem to like them, there is a massive decrease in the number of households that have guns and there is a massive increase in the sales of guns in this country. The increase amount are going to the people who tried to bring down our country to force in a piece of shit dictator. People who should be the last people in the world to be able to own guns in this country, right now the best law that could be written is that groups that are a enemy and threat to this country shouldn't be able to buy guns, the biggest threat and enemy of this country now is the right wing, they have no qualms about destoying our country and democracy to stay in power. Their new name is Hate Nazi's

There is also a decrease in murders involving firearms.

Means nothing , there is a decrease in all crime groups even including white collar crime.

Means nothing? The problem most people have with guns is that they are used to murder people. A drop in the murder rates involving guns means a lot.

It means nothing other than all crimes are reducing in numbers.Says nothing about any crime specifically. Was that your point ace.

My point is that the violent crime rates have dropped. If you want to call that irrelevant, that is up to you.

Never

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

Light saber? Nah.

I own 21 guns. Some new and sweet, and some old and handed down from my grandfather.

I have a Springfield M1911 that I have customized a bit. I have several Rugers that perform like champs. And various other firearms I enjoy.

Here is a bit of information you may find valuable , you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.

That is a fair point which is backed up by statistics. However, I trust WinterBorn with guns the same as I would any other who enjoys responsible hunting, home protection and guns in general. He's a hunter and a hobbyist as opposed to a fetishist. There are OTHERS in this forum who I would not in my right mind sell a gun to.

Not many of those out there but I can except that.

On the contrary, I know more responsible gun owners than I do irresponsible ones. The reason it seems different is that the responsible gun owners do not make the news. 30% of adult Americans say they own a gun. There are about 274 million adults in the US. Several research polls show 30% of American adults own at least one gun. That means over 82 million Americans own a gun.

source

Key facts about Americans and guns

Six-in-ten U.S. adults say gun violence is a very big problem in the country today, up 9 percentage points from spring 2022.

www.pewresearch.org

Do you have a source for your claim that it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot than ever using a gun to protect anything at all?

Don't have to go any farther then your own words CUT AND PASTE FROM YOUR OWN WORDS ""I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot."" If you can't understand your own words , what can I say/ By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

I understand my own words. I also understand that missing my target and hitting a dirt embankment or hitting foliage is not the same thing as "shooting something I don't want to shoot".

I did ask for a source for your claim "you are way more likely to shoot something you don't want to shoot then ever ever using your guns to protect anything at all.".

"Oh, and just FYI, I have been shooting since I was 7 or 8 years old. I have missed what I was aiming at many times. But I have not shot anything I did not want to shoot. I was trained as a kid in the basics of gun safety. And it stuck." Post 214- If you miss something you shoot at, the bullet is going where you don't want it to go. So you are hitting something you are not aiming at. You can't hide from your own words. By the way if anyone who counts want's me to backup anything I say just ask.

Yes, my bullet did not hit where I wanted. But what you said was "...it is more likely that I will shoot something I don't want to shoot...". Even though I missed my target, I do not care that I shot an embankment or some foliage. There is a difference between not hitting what I wanted to hit and hitting something I did not want to hit.

Since you have ignored my request for a source for your claim, I can only guess that you are saying my request that you provide backup for your claim is being ignored because I am not someone who counts?

said that did i , I said it means nothing specific since all crime rates for every crime has decreased.

And still no source for your claim.

About 40% of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun, and 22% of individuals (about 72 million people) report owning a gun, according to surveys from Pew and Harvard and Northeastern. This figure has declined over time, down from 51% of gun-owning households in 1978. Gun purchases, however, have hit historic highs in recent years and during the COVID-19 pandemic.


Americans also own a disproportionate share of the world’s firearms: The U.S. has just 4% of the world’s population but owns about 40% of civilian-owned guns globally, according to a 2018 report from the Switzerland-based Small Arms Survey. How Many Gun Owners Are In The United States?

The gun numbers: just 3% of American adults own a collective 133m firearms​

Facts show owning more than 40 guns is actually fairly common in the United States, and violence falls most heavily on the country’s poorest neighborhoods The gun numbers: just 3% of American adults own a collective 133m firearms

Despite mass shootings, number of households owning guns is on the decline

Half of all guns are concentrated among 3 percent of Americans

www.cbsnews.com

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YOU AREN"T EVEN CLOSE TO KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YUK YUK! So much more effective waiting to source things .

How many homes in North Korea have guns?

You may resume eating dirt

So if I even knew, it still wouldn't mean shit. You are trying to compare America to North Korea. You must be kidding.

Look kid if you take away all of the guns then America is North Korea. One of the reasons for the second amendment is so that Americans can rise up against an oppressive government. If their are no guns then anyone can come into your house for any reason or anytime. Which is what North Korea has. So the truth is if you want guns banned you should move your lazy ass to North Korea NOW.

So you got the balls

CIAO

How do you spell stupid. I never said once about banning anything ace. Here's the problem ace, the people that are storing up all the guns and Amo are this countries biggest threat and enemy, we saw them in action trying to bring down our democracy and government and killing people at the capital. This countries stupid if we let this countries biggest threat and enemy buy or own guns. That is the group I would never let have a gun . They lost their voice and privileges in this country when they tried to destroy it.

As far as I know, the people who perpetrated the attack on 1/6 are going to be prosecuted. A felony conviction means they can't legally own a firearm.

There have been 400 people arrested in connection with the events on 1/6. If there were any firearms involved, they were few and far between. Do you think taking guns away from 400 people will change things?

It’s a start!

Towards what?

We take guns and voting rights away from ALL felons, not just the ones who used them to commit their crimes.

In the case of 1/6, these were violent people who should of ALL people, lose their guns.

Wonder if Proud Boys, 3-Percenters & Oath Keepers are still allowed in the club if they can’t pack 24/7/365?

Oh I agree that all of those convicted of a felony from 1/6 events should lose their right to own guns. But you called it a "good start". If it is just a start, who else loses their 2nd amendment rights?

That one is simple , we are stupid to let this countries biggest threat and enemy to have any gun at all. So that then includes the 70% of the right that supported or suports the attempt to bring down our government. by destroying our democracy. If anything there guns should be taken away because they are two stupid to be able to have them.

I understand how the 400+ will be prosecuted and their guns removed if convicted.

But the 70% that you say supported them? How will you prosecute them and remove their guns?

Told you that already I would destroy and bring down their hate party , quite simple actually. erase them out of American politics . Real conservatives are a strong group and will be able to put together a voice and party that reflects conservative values , all this group supports is hate driven lies now, get rid of the hate party , very doable. As far as guns are concerned , maximize looking into people who want to buy guns or get a license to carry. Find out if they are aligned in anyway with right wing hate groups around the country.

It seems that right now, you consider the republican party a hate group. Are you going to prosecute every republican?

You say it is doable. You want to prosecute or persecute people for their political beliefs, despite the fact they have committed no crime?

Good God where in the hell did I say prosicuting all hate party members is doable.. Go away or make sense. and yes the Republican party is made up of a majority of hate driven traitors to my country. They are a clear cut threat and enemy of our Democracy and country, No one can support the destruction of our democracy to force in a piece of shit for a dictator and get away with it.

Trump qualified as a candidate, according to all the rules in place at the time. He was elected in a fair election by the majority of electoral votes.

I didn't like Trump at all. When he was elected I said it was going to hell in a hand basket. But unless someone commits a felony, and is convicted, their 2nd amendment rights remain intact.

The fact is that bill gates wants everyone vaccinated to wear a microchip to identify who they are and when they were vaccinated and with what and include a batch number. This is fact

The chip isn't injected hot rod , it stays with the syringe, God people are idiots.

 

[jbander]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

Goofy!

 

[whitehall]

Vaccinations are tracking devices because your name is on a state/federal list. It's ironic that (mostly) democrats whine about a simple photo I.D. required to vote while they created a gigantic data bank of vaccination I.D.'s required to travel.

 

[jbander]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

From the land of make believe.

 

[jbander]

Vaccinations are tracking devices because your name is on a state/federal list. It's ironic that (mostly) democrats whine about a simple photo I.D. required to vote while they created a gigantic data bank of vaccination I.D.'s required to travel.

Goofball the vaccination is not the tracking devise. If you have insurance you are on a list already, how in the hell could they insure anyone if that wasn't the case. Your vaccination data bank is comedy. Total LA LA land. The Travel requirement is not because of the US, it's because of any country you want to go to. They put the restrictions on , as I hope we are doing. Your ideas are wacko!

 

[Dusty]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

And you believe your tv

 

[DrLove]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

And you believe your tv

No Dr Dusty - I’m a fan of SCIENCE

 

[Dusty]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

And you believe your tv

No Dr Dusty - I’m a fan of SCIENCE

Does science require that old people be denied hospital care and forced into nursing homes when they have a highly contagious and most often fatal disease to older people and the result is that nearly everyone in the nursing home dies

Is that science kid or just democraps like you in motion.

You will never even know

 

[Dusty]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

And you believe your tv

No Dr Dusty - I’m a fan of SCIENCE

Does science require that old people be denied hospital care and forced into nursing homes when they have a highly contagious and most often fatal disease to older people and the result is that nearly everyone in the nursing home dies

Is that science kid or just democraps like you in motion.

Thanks for not rebutting which proves that you know that this all happened as I described.

You may disagree now which will not bring the old people who were denied hospital care back to life. I would rather be a wombat than be you

 

[whitehall]

Vaccinations are tracking devices because your name is on a state/federal list. It's ironic that (mostly) democrats whine about a simple photo I.D. required to vote while they created a gigantic data bank of vaccination I.D.'s required to travel.

Goofball the vaccination is not the tracking devise. If you have insurance you are on a list already, how in the hell could they insure anyone if that wasn't the case. Your vaccination data bank is comedy. Total LA LA land. The Travel requirement is not because of the US, it's because of any country you want to go to. They put the restrictions on , as I hope we are doing. Your ideas are wacko!

Device is the correct spelling. The point is about the left's incredible ability to spin every word spoken by (only) republican politicians and turn it into a freaking current event while the freaking Country is going down the tubes under a doddering old man who can't figure out what day it is most of the time.

 

[WTF19]

Bet that lawmaker has a smart phone he keeps with him at all times too.

According to the article the official and the doctor were in on it together. The question was asked to dispel misinformation that had been around for a while.

I hope you are right, but the crazies who believe such a thing aren't going to dismiss their silly fears just because of anything the doctor might have said.

just like your stupid fears of someone who doesn;t want to inject an unknown drug in their bodies....you really are warped

 

[DrLove]

It is easy to make small tracking devices.
Putting them in to a vaccination shot would also be very easy.
The part that is hard and makes it silly is that it would not only be expensive, but you could at most track maybe a dozen people. Trying to track hundreds of people would cost billions for all the communications equipment and computers you would need.
And there is no point.
All you have to do in order to track people now is find out what they cellphone MAC address is.

as of now you couldn't secretly inject a tracking device that really track anything in a person. The big Hate Nazi routine was about a tracking chip for injections that does exist but it goes with the syringe and is not injected into the person, it tracks the injection numbers and were it was from by scanning a device over the top of all the empty syringes and you can get some small amount of information but absolutely nothing about the person who was injected. Thats the same dumb fuks that think the election was stolen.

With nano technology you can make transmitters really, really small.
The problems would be limited range and battery life.
If you had receivers all over the place, you can get past the range problem, but then can't track many people.
It is possible to use body heat as an energy source, so batteries may not be necessary.
But I doubt something like a thermocouple could be made small enough for injection and still work.

No need for a nano transmitter just a chemical or nuclear tag. That said there is no need for either of these as the vaccine itself is the tag and everyone gives their name when they get the vaccine. See the purpose is not tracking but infection and everyone injected is infected. Or does the government always tell the truth?

You a special kind of Kray-Kray Dr Dusty. Next time you need ANYTHING from a clinic or hospital, tell them you’re John (Jane?) Doe and see how that works out for ya.

And you believe your tv

No Dr Dusty - I’m a fan of SCIENCE

Does science require that old people be denied hospital care and forced into nursing homes when they have a highly contagious and most often fatal disease to older people and the result is that nearly everyone in the nursing home dies

Is that science kid or just democraps like you in motion.

Thanks for not rebutting which proves that you know that this all happened as I described.

You may disagree now which will not bring the old people who were denied hospital care back to life. I would rather be a wombat than be you

You hopeless dude (but entertaining!)

 

[WTF19]

Wow lol.

Yet another conspiracy theory for Trumpsters to latch onto.

similar to you scum demonRATS russian collusion?....grow up you retard

 

[WTF19]

There is something VERY wrong with these people!

An Orange County Republican lawmaker was laughed at by a doctor after he asked whether the COVID-19 vaccine had a tracking device in it.​

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“In the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Supervisor Don Wagner asked the county’s health care agency director, Clayton Chau.​

​

Chau laughed before responding to Wagner, saying, “I’m sorry. I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”​

​

The question came at an Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting where the prospect of "vaccine passports" was being discussed.​

Orange County official asks doctor about vaccine tracking device to debunk conspiracy theory

An Orange County Republican seeking to quell fears about taking COVID-19 vaccines referenced a conspiracy theory in asking a doctor if there was a tracking device in the vaccine during a public mee…

thehill.com

Actually every vaccine is tracked which is why you register before getting jabbed. See if they know who you are then you are being tracked at least in the database.

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Yes, they track the batches of valuable vaccines and have a database of those who have received the shot. They also track the flu vaccine for the same reasons. The idea that they would create some huge pandemic, just to get tracking devices injected into people who are carrying a trackable, remote surveillance technology with them 24/7 is laughable.

Again every human being that has had the vaccine is being tracked. See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected, and now every person who was injected is being tracked. The different batches of the vaccine are just that DIFFERENT and now we have the largest human drug trial in the history of Earth.

So if you were injected they are tracking you now, no need for a microchip in you, and when you die the cause will be tracked into the database. Enjoy

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are you intentionally trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory?

LOL the fact is that every person who gets the vaccine gives their name which is entered into multiple databases for tracking purposes. No conspiracy at all as this is happening

and where is my--doctor -patient -privacy-- if its going to multiple data banks...retard
CONSPIRACY....DUH