GOP lawmaker asks doctor whether COVID vaccines have a tracking device

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What's stupid about the question? It gets the doc on the record.

BTW, my niece's husband works for Pfizer and he confirmed it to my brother.
 
There is something VERY wrong with these people! :heehee:

An Orange County Republican lawmaker was laughed at by a doctor after he asked whether the COVID-19 vaccine had a tracking device in it.​
“In the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Supervisor Don Wagner asked the county’s health care agency director, Clayton Chau.​
Chau laughed before responding to Wagner, saying, “I’m sorry. I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”​
The question came at an Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting where the prospect of "vaccine passports" was being discussed.​



Actually every vaccine is tracked which is why you register before getting jabbed. See if they know who you are then you are being tracked at least in the database.

Next


Yes, they track the batches of valuable vaccines and have a database of those who have received the shot. They also track the flu vaccine for the same reasons. The idea that they would create some huge pandemic, just to get tracking devices injected into people who are carrying a trackable, remote surveillance technology with them 24/7 is laughable.

Again every human being that has had the vaccine is being tracked. See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected, and now every person who was injected is being tracked. The different batches of the vaccine are just that DIFFERENT and now we have the largest human drug trial in the history of Earth.

So if you were injected they are tracking you now, no need for a microchip in you, and when you die the cause will be tracked into the database. Enjoy

Next


:cuckoo:

are you intentionally trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory?

LOL the fact is that every person who gets the vaccine gives their name which is entered into multiple databases for tracking purposes. No conspiracy at all as this is happening


See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected,

Conspiracy


Pure tin foil no? :)

I had covid, it is not dangerous unless a doctor forces the disease into lung tissue with forced ventilation. The 99.6 percent of people who got covid and were not ventilated are still alive


I see you have a medical degree as well as being dangerously aware of our world. lol

If you had covid-19, which is a big "if", you obviously had a mild case. This idea that every covid case is the exact same is laughably ignorant.

Thank you. Are you aware what at least 300,000 deaths are caused by doctors every year in the USA?

Iatrogenic (of a disease or symptoms) induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician. Chambers English Dictionary. One of the basic principles in treatment stated by Hippocrates is “First do no harm”. Stories of medical remedies causing more harm than good have been recorded from time immemorial.

So are you enjoying being tracked like a lab rat


And thinking that 300K deaths from medical accidents or malpractice is evidence that medicine has been causing more harm than good is ridiculous. In the US we have 883.7 million doctor visits per year. 84.9% of our population has at least one doctor visit per year (for kids it is 95%). Are they all being tracked?

300,000 more Americans would be alive every year if they were not mistreated by doctors. Do the math, I have been misdiagnosed several times, and if I allowed the treatments I would certainly be either dead or disabled. As it is few doctors can even try to follow me.

Real whether you agree or not


First of all, I doubt any doctors have tried to follow you. Your delusions of grandeur notwithstanding, they probably don't know you exist.

Second of all, for your claims to have any real meaning you need to compare the 300k deaths from medical accidents to the number of people still alive only because of medical treatment. Then let me know whether modern medicine is worth it.

Actually if my doctors tried to follow me on a 100 mile bike ride we would see who is healthy and who is sick, LOL could you follow me? I mean you had you vaccine that makes you healthier than me right


LMAO!! Oh, so "following you" means on a bike ride?

And then "tracking you" must mean when they are out of sight and have to rely on signs? LMAO!!

The vaccine does not mean I am healthier. It simply means I have a lower chance of getting covid-19, and if I do get it it will be a milder illness.

Can you keep up with me pop? or would you pass out in your mask? It's ok you rationalize away as you see fit


You seem to think you know things about me. Sounds like the same whackjob ignorance as your other claims.

I'm not a big fan of long distance biking. But if you would like to try to follow me on a long trail, give it your best shot.

Actually I said that nothing about you matters to me. Nothing you can ever do to alter this


And you think you matter to me? lol Not even a little bit.

But, unlike you, I will engage and will answer questions relevant to a discussion.

So you believe that you determine what is relevant?

Why is this true?

So you wanna do the jog with the 100lb pack? We could also do 1 arm pushups with a 100lb pack as well. This should be easy for you since you are vaccinated

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LOL hiking is a fancy word for WALKING. So your speed is walking speed, why not run?


Funny, you like to ask questions but refuse to answer them. And you expect answers?

Also funny that you now want to change the subject to exercise or fitness? lol Just another troll on the forums spouting nonsense.
 
There is something VERY wrong with these people! :heehee:

An Orange County Republican lawmaker was laughed at by a doctor after he asked whether the COVID-19 vaccine had a tracking device in it.​
“In the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Supervisor Don Wagner asked the county’s health care agency director, Clayton Chau.​
Chau laughed before responding to Wagner, saying, “I’m sorry. I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”​
The question came at an Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting where the prospect of "vaccine passports" was being discussed.​



Actually every vaccine is tracked which is why you register before getting jabbed. See if they know who you are then you are being tracked at least in the database.

Next


Yes, they track the batches of valuable vaccines and have a database of those who have received the shot. They also track the flu vaccine for the same reasons. The idea that they would create some huge pandemic, just to get tracking devices injected into people who are carrying a trackable, remote surveillance technology with them 24/7 is laughable.

Again every human being that has had the vaccine is being tracked. See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected, and now every person who was injected is being tracked. The different batches of the vaccine are just that DIFFERENT and now we have the largest human drug trial in the history of Earth.

So if you were injected they are tracking you now, no need for a microchip in you, and when you die the cause will be tracked into the database. Enjoy

Next


:cuckoo:

are you intentionally trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory?

LOL the fact is that every person who gets the vaccine gives their name which is entered into multiple databases for tracking purposes. No conspiracy at all as this is happening


See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected,

Conspiracy


Pure tin foil no? :)

I had covid, it is not dangerous unless a doctor forces the disease into lung tissue with forced ventilation. The 99.6 percent of people who got covid and were not ventilated are still alive


I see you have a medical degree as well as being dangerously aware of our world. lol

If you had covid-19, which is a big "if", you obviously had a mild case. This idea that every covid case is the exact same is laughably ignorant.

Thank you. Are you aware what at least 300,000 deaths are caused by doctors every year in the USA?

Iatrogenic (of a disease or symptoms) induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician. Chambers English Dictionary. One of the basic principles in treatment stated by Hippocrates is “First do no harm”. Stories of medical remedies causing more harm than good have been recorded from time immemorial.

So are you enjoying being tracked like a lab rat


And thinking that 300K deaths from medical accidents or malpractice is evidence that medicine has been causing more harm than good is ridiculous. In the US we have 883.7 million doctor visits per year. 84.9% of our population has at least one doctor visit per year (for kids it is 95%). Are they all being tracked?

300,000 more Americans would be alive every year if they were not mistreated by doctors. Do the math, I have been misdiagnosed several times, and if I allowed the treatments I would certainly be either dead or disabled. As it is few doctors can even try to follow me.

Real whether you agree or not


First of all, I doubt any doctors have tried to follow you. Your delusions of grandeur notwithstanding, they probably don't know you exist.

Second of all, for your claims to have any real meaning you need to compare the 300k deaths from medical accidents to the number of people still alive only because of medical treatment. Then let me know whether modern medicine is worth it.

Actually if my doctors tried to follow me on a 100 mile bike ride we would see who is healthy and who is sick, LOL could you follow me? I mean you had you vaccine that makes you healthier than me right


LMAO!! Oh, so "following you" means on a bike ride?

And then "tracking you" must mean when they are out of sight and have to rely on signs? LMAO!!

The vaccine does not mean I am healthier. It simply means I have a lower chance of getting covid-19, and if I do get it it will be a milder illness.

Can you keep up with me pop? or would you pass out in your mask? It's ok you rationalize away as you see fit


You seem to think you know things about me. Sounds like the same whackjob ignorance as your other claims.

I'm not a big fan of long distance biking. But if you would like to try to follow me on a long trail, give it your best shot.

Actually I said that nothing about you matters to me. Nothing you can ever do to alter this


And you think you matter to me? lol Not even a little bit.

But, unlike you, I will engage and will answer questions relevant to a discussion.

So you believe that you determine what is relevant?

Why is this true?

So you wanna do the jog with the 100lb pack? We could also do 1 arm pushups with a 100lb pack as well. This should be easy for you since you are vaccinated

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LOL hiking is a fancy word for WALKING. So your speed is walking speed, why not run?


Funny, you like to ask questions but refuse to answer them. And you expect answers?

Also funny that you now want to change the subject to exercise or fitness? lol Just another troll on the forums spouting nonsense.

Again I do not care if you answer or not.

However it would be interesting to see a person who can not sit up properly hike 100 miles wearing a 100lb pack
 
There is something VERY wrong with these people! :heehee:

An Orange County Republican lawmaker was laughed at by a doctor after he asked whether the COVID-19 vaccine had a tracking device in it.​
“In the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Supervisor Don Wagner asked the county’s health care agency director, Clayton Chau.​
Chau laughed before responding to Wagner, saying, “I’m sorry. I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”​
The question came at an Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting where the prospect of "vaccine passports" was being discussed.​



Actually every vaccine is tracked which is why you register before getting jabbed. See if they know who you are then you are being tracked at least in the database.

Next


Yes, they track the batches of valuable vaccines and have a database of those who have received the shot. They also track the flu vaccine for the same reasons. The idea that they would create some huge pandemic, just to get tracking devices injected into people who are carrying a trackable, remote surveillance technology with them 24/7 is laughable.

Again every human being that has had the vaccine is being tracked. See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected, and now every person who was injected is being tracked. The different batches of the vaccine are just that DIFFERENT and now we have the largest human drug trial in the history of Earth.

So if you were injected they are tracking you now, no need for a microchip in you, and when you die the cause will be tracked into the database. Enjoy

Next


:cuckoo:

are you intentionally trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory?

LOL the fact is that every person who gets the vaccine gives their name which is entered into multiple databases for tracking purposes. No conspiracy at all as this is happening


See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected,

Conspiracy


Pure tin foil no? :)

I had covid, it is not dangerous unless a doctor forces the disease into lung tissue with forced ventilation. The 99.6 percent of people who got covid and were not ventilated are still alive


I see you have a medical degree as well as being dangerously aware of our world. lol

If you had covid-19, which is a big "if", you obviously had a mild case. This idea that every covid case is the exact same is laughably ignorant.

Thank you. Are you aware what at least 300,000 deaths are caused by doctors every year in the USA?

Iatrogenic (of a disease or symptoms) induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician. Chambers English Dictionary. One of the basic principles in treatment stated by Hippocrates is “First do no harm”. Stories of medical remedies causing more harm than good have been recorded from time immemorial.

So are you enjoying being tracked like a lab rat


And thinking that 300K deaths from medical accidents or malpractice is evidence that medicine has been causing more harm than good is ridiculous. In the US we have 883.7 million doctor visits per year. 84.9% of our population has at least one doctor visit per year (for kids it is 95%). Are they all being tracked?

300,000 more Americans would be alive every year if they were not mistreated by doctors. Do the math, I have been misdiagnosed several times, and if I allowed the treatments I would certainly be either dead or disabled. As it is few doctors can even try to follow me.

Real whether you agree or not


First of all, I doubt any doctors have tried to follow you. Your delusions of grandeur notwithstanding, they probably don't know you exist.

Second of all, for your claims to have any real meaning you need to compare the 300k deaths from medical accidents to the number of people still alive only because of medical treatment. Then let me know whether modern medicine is worth it.

Actually if my doctors tried to follow me on a 100 mile bike ride we would see who is healthy and who is sick, LOL could you follow me? I mean you had you vaccine that makes you healthier than me right


LMAO!! Oh, so "following you" means on a bike ride?

And then "tracking you" must mean when they are out of sight and have to rely on signs? LMAO!!

The vaccine does not mean I am healthier. It simply means I have a lower chance of getting covid-19, and if I do get it it will be a milder illness.

Can you keep up with me pop? or would you pass out in your mask? It's ok you rationalize away as you see fit


You seem to think you know things about me. Sounds like the same whackjob ignorance as your other claims.

I'm not a big fan of long distance biking. But if you would like to try to follow me on a long trail, give it your best shot.

Actually I said that nothing about you matters to me. Nothing you can ever do to alter this


And you think you matter to me? lol Not even a little bit.

But, unlike you, I will engage and will answer questions relevant to a discussion.

So you believe that you determine what is relevant?

Why is this true?

So you wanna do the jog with the 100lb pack? We could also do 1 arm pushups with a 100lb pack as well. This should be easy for you since you are vaccinated

maxresdefault.jpg



LOL hiking is a fancy word for WALKING. So your speed is walking speed, why not run?


Funny, you like to ask questions but refuse to answer them. And you expect answers?

Also funny that you now want to change the subject to exercise or fitness? lol Just another troll on the forums spouting nonsense.

Again I do not care if you answer or not.


I don't really care if you answer either. But refusing to do so adds weight to the idea that you are either troll or a conspiracy nut. I'll let you choose.
 
There is something VERY wrong with these people! :heehee:

An Orange County Republican lawmaker was laughed at by a doctor after he asked whether the COVID-19 vaccine had a tracking device in it.​
“In the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Supervisor Don Wagner asked the county’s health care agency director, Clayton Chau.​
Chau laughed before responding to Wagner, saying, “I’m sorry. I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”​
The question came at an Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting where the prospect of "vaccine passports" was being discussed.​



Actually every vaccine is tracked which is why you register before getting jabbed. See if they know who you are then you are being tracked at least in the database.

Next


Yes, they track the batches of valuable vaccines and have a database of those who have received the shot. They also track the flu vaccine for the same reasons. The idea that they would create some huge pandemic, just to get tracking devices injected into people who are carrying a trackable, remote surveillance technology with them 24/7 is laughable.

Again every human being that has had the vaccine is being tracked. See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected, and now every person who was injected is being tracked. The different batches of the vaccine are just that DIFFERENT and now we have the largest human drug trial in the history of Earth.

So if you were injected they are tracking you now, no need for a microchip in you, and when you die the cause will be tracked into the database. Enjoy

Next


:cuckoo:

are you intentionally trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory?

LOL the fact is that every person who gets the vaccine gives their name which is entered into multiple databases for tracking purposes. No conspiracy at all as this is happening


See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected,

Conspiracy


Pure tin foil no? :)

I had covid, it is not dangerous unless a doctor forces the disease into lung tissue with forced ventilation. The 99.6 percent of people who got covid and were not ventilated are still alive


I see you have a medical degree as well as being dangerously aware of our world. lol

If you had covid-19, which is a big "if", you obviously had a mild case. This idea that every covid case is the exact same is laughably ignorant.

Thank you. Are you aware what at least 300,000 deaths are caused by doctors every year in the USA?

Iatrogenic (of a disease or symptoms) induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician. Chambers English Dictionary. One of the basic principles in treatment stated by Hippocrates is “First do no harm”. Stories of medical remedies causing more harm than good have been recorded from time immemorial.

So are you enjoying being tracked like a lab rat


And thinking that 300K deaths from medical accidents or malpractice is evidence that medicine has been causing more harm than good is ridiculous. In the US we have 883.7 million doctor visits per year. 84.9% of our population has at least one doctor visit per year (for kids it is 95%). Are they all being tracked?

300,000 more Americans would be alive every year if they were not mistreated by doctors. Do the math, I have been misdiagnosed several times, and if I allowed the treatments I would certainly be either dead or disabled. As it is few doctors can even try to follow me.

Real whether you agree or not


First of all, I doubt any doctors have tried to follow you. Your delusions of grandeur notwithstanding, they probably don't know you exist.

Second of all, for your claims to have any real meaning you need to compare the 300k deaths from medical accidents to the number of people still alive only because of medical treatment. Then let me know whether modern medicine is worth it.

Actually if my doctors tried to follow me on a 100 mile bike ride we would see who is healthy and who is sick, LOL could you follow me? I mean you had you vaccine that makes you healthier than me right


LMAO!! Oh, so "following you" means on a bike ride?

And then "tracking you" must mean when they are out of sight and have to rely on signs? LMAO!!

The vaccine does not mean I am healthier. It simply means I have a lower chance of getting covid-19, and if I do get it it will be a milder illness.

Can you keep up with me pop? or would you pass out in your mask? It's ok you rationalize away as you see fit


You seem to think you know things about me. Sounds like the same whackjob ignorance as your other claims.

I'm not a big fan of long distance biking. But if you would like to try to follow me on a long trail, give it your best shot.

Actually I said that nothing about you matters to me. Nothing you can ever do to alter this


And you think you matter to me? lol Not even a little bit.

But, unlike you, I will engage and will answer questions relevant to a discussion.

So you believe that you determine what is relevant?

Why is this true?

So you wanna do the jog with the 100lb pack? We could also do 1 arm pushups with a 100lb pack as well. This should be easy for you since you are vaccinated

maxresdefault.jpg



LOL hiking is a fancy word for WALKING. So your speed is walking speed, why not run?


Funny, you like to ask questions but refuse to answer them. And you expect answers?

Also funny that you now want to change the subject to exercise or fitness? lol Just another troll on the forums spouting nonsense.

Again I do not care if you answer or not.


I don't really care if you answer either. But refusing to do so adds weight to the idea that you are either troll or a conspiracy nut. I'll let you choose.

Again every person who was vaccinated is being tracked, that is why you were REQUIRED to give your name before getting a specific batch of vaccine that is tracked along with your name.

LOL what can you do after being vaccinated that I can not?

Answer be an injected lab experement
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

Answer = NOTHING except pretend

Dr Love has no answer either
 
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Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

You may have antibodies. Unless you are tested for them, you don't know whether you're reasonably protected or not. I on the other hand, can feel pretty comfortable being unmasked around others who've been vaxed without a whole lot of worry. And I can ride on airplanes again while masked.

In short - You don't know - - - I DO
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

You may have antibodies. Unless you are tested for them, you don't know whether you're reasonably protected or not. I on the other hand, can feel pretty comfortable being unmasked around others who've been vaxed without a whole lot of worry. And I can ride on airplanes again while masked.

In short - You don't know - - - I DO
LOL how long do your antibodies last until you need to be vaccinated again? A week or month, six months. LOL I have antibodies too as I had covid
 
The vaccine needle is so so so miniscule that I had to ask the Pharmacist if she gave it to me already....? I had turned my head, don't like needles, of any kind! I felt nothing, not even a clue it had gone in and out of me.... Then watched her do my husband, he had the same reaction...did you do it already?

There is no microchip technology that tiny, or quick.
 
There is something VERY wrong with these people! :heehee:

An Orange County Republican lawmaker was laughed at by a doctor after he asked whether the COVID-19 vaccine had a tracking device in it.​
“In the vaccine, we heard about the injection of a tracking device. Is that being done anywhere in Orange County?” Supervisor Don Wagner asked the county’s health care agency director, Clayton Chau.​
Chau laughed before responding to Wagner, saying, “I’m sorry. I just have to compose myself. There is not a vaccine with a tracking device embedded in it that I know of that exists in the world. Period.”​
The question came at an Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting where the prospect of "vaccine passports" was being discussed.​



Actually every vaccine is tracked which is why you register before getting jabbed. See if they know who you are then you are being tracked at least in the database.

Next


Yes, they track the batches of valuable vaccines and have a database of those who have received the shot. They also track the flu vaccine for the same reasons. The idea that they would create some huge pandemic, just to get tracking devices injected into people who are carrying a trackable, remote surveillance technology with them 24/7 is laughable.

Again every human being that has had the vaccine is being tracked. See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected, and now every person who was injected is being tracked. The different batches of the vaccine are just that DIFFERENT and now we have the largest human drug trial in the history of Earth.

So if you were injected they are tracking you now, no need for a microchip in you, and when you die the cause will be tracked into the database. Enjoy

Next


:cuckoo:

are you intentionally trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory?

LOL the fact is that every person who gets the vaccine gives their name which is entered into multiple databases for tracking purposes. No conspiracy at all as this is happening


See first they lied and deliberately killed people in nursing homes to create panic so that fools would want to be injected,

Conspiracy


Pure tin foil no? :)

I had covid, it is not dangerous unless a doctor forces the disease into lung tissue with forced ventilation. The 99.6 percent of people who got covid and were not ventilated are still alive


I see you have a medical degree as well as being dangerously aware of our world. lol

If you had covid-19, which is a big "if", you obviously had a mild case. This idea that every covid case is the exact same is laughably ignorant.

Thank you. Are you aware what at least 300,000 deaths are caused by doctors every year in the USA?

Iatrogenic (of a disease or symptoms) induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician. Chambers English Dictionary. One of the basic principles in treatment stated by Hippocrates is “First do no harm”. Stories of medical remedies causing more harm than good have been recorded from time immemorial.

So are you enjoying being tracked like a lab rat


And thinking that 300K deaths from medical accidents or malpractice is evidence that medicine has been causing more harm than good is ridiculous. In the US we have 883.7 million doctor visits per year. 84.9% of our population has at least one doctor visit per year (for kids it is 95%). Are they all being tracked?

300,000 more Americans would be alive every year if they were not mistreated by doctors. Do the math, I have been misdiagnosed several times, and if I allowed the treatments I would certainly be either dead or disabled. As it is few doctors can even try to follow me.

Real whether you agree or not


First of all, I doubt any doctors have tried to follow you. Your delusions of grandeur notwithstanding, they probably don't know you exist.

Second of all, for your claims to have any real meaning you need to compare the 300k deaths from medical accidents to the number of people still alive only because of medical treatment. Then let me know whether modern medicine is worth it.

Actually if my doctors tried to follow me on a 100 mile bike ride we would see who is healthy and who is sick, LOL could you follow me? I mean you had you vaccine that makes you healthier than me right


LMAO!! Oh, so "following you" means on a bike ride?

And then "tracking you" must mean when they are out of sight and have to rely on signs? LMAO!!

The vaccine does not mean I am healthier. It simply means I have a lower chance of getting covid-19, and if I do get it it will be a milder illness.

Can you keep up with me pop? or would you pass out in your mask? It's ok you rationalize away as you see fit


You seem to think you know things about me. Sounds like the same whackjob ignorance as your other claims.

I'm not a big fan of long distance biking. But if you would like to try to follow me on a long trail, give it your best shot.

Actually I said that nothing about you matters to me. Nothing you can ever do to alter this


And you think you matter to me? lol Not even a little bit.

But, unlike you, I will engage and will answer questions relevant to a discussion.

So you believe that you determine what is relevant?

Why is this true?

So you wanna do the jog with the 100lb pack? We could also do 1 arm pushups with a 100lb pack as well. This should be easy for you since you are vaccinated

maxresdefault.jpg



LOL hiking is a fancy word for WALKING. So your speed is walking speed, why not run?


Funny, you like to ask questions but refuse to answer them. And you expect answers?

Also funny that you now want to change the subject to exercise or fitness? lol Just another troll on the forums spouting nonsense.

Again I do not care if you answer or not.


I don't really care if you answer either. But refusing to do so adds weight to the idea that you are either troll or a conspiracy nut. I'll let you choose.

Again every person who was vaccinated is being tracked, that is why you were REQUIRED to give your name before getting a specific batch of vaccine that is tracked along with your name.

LOL what can you do after being vaccinated that I can not?

Answer be an injected lab experement


You seem to think tracking in a database is the same as tracking the actual person in the real world. That is hilarious!

What can I do? Not get covid-19. Not transmit covid-19 to those who have medical issues. Not have the long term effects of covid-19.
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

You may have antibodies. Unless you are tested for them, you don't know whether you're reasonably protected or not. I on the other hand, can feel pretty comfortable being unmasked around others who've been vaxed without a whole lot of worry. And I can ride on airplanes again while masked.

In short - You don't know - - - I DO
LOL how long do your antibodies last until you need to be vaccinated again? A week or month, six months. LOL I have antibodies too as I had covid

You do not know whether you have sufficient levels of antibodies to be protected Dr Dusty. There have been multiple cases of people testing positive and becoming RE-infected with less fortunate outcomes the second time around.

The scientists say that my two Moderna shots should be good for 6 months. Beyond that we don't know. But we will know about the need for boosters and necessary tweaks on the vaccines to cover variants in another 6 months or so.
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

You may have antibodies. Unless you are tested for them, you don't know whether you're reasonably protected or not. I on the other hand, can feel pretty comfortable being unmasked around others who've been vaxed without a whole lot of worry. And I can ride on airplanes again while masked.

In short - You don't know - - - I DO
LOL how long do your antibodies last until you need to be vaccinated again? A week or month, six months. LOL I have antibodies too as I had covid

And how long do they last?
 
The vaccine needle is so so so miniscule that I had to ask the Pharmacist if she gave it to me already....? I had turned my head, don't like needles, of any kind! I felt nothing, not even a clue it had gone in and out of me.... Then watched her do my husband, he had the same reaction...did you do it already?

There is no microchip technology that tiny, or quick.
Still you gave the pharmacist your name before the injection so that you could be properly tracked.
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

You may have antibodies. Unless you are tested for them, you don't know whether you're reasonably protected or not. I on the other hand, can feel pretty comfortable being unmasked around others who've been vaxed without a whole lot of worry. And I can ride on airplanes again while masked.

In short - You don't know - - - I DO
LOL how long do your antibodies last until you need to be vaccinated again? A week or month, six months. LOL I have antibodies too as I had covid

And how long do they last?
Not long as people who have been vaccinated are getting covid.
 
The vaccine needle is so so so miniscule that I had to ask the Pharmacist if she gave it to me already....? I had turned my head, don't like needles, of any kind! I felt nothing, not even a clue it had gone in and out of me.... Then watched her do my husband, he had the same reaction...did you do it already?

There is no microchip technology that tiny, or quick.
Still you gave the pharmacist your name before the injection so that you could be properly tracked.
It matters in this case because the pathogen is so contagious. Even second and potentially third doses may be needed.
 
Let's do a nice long hike instead. Say around 45 lbs in your backpack? I'm happy to go first.
LOL make it 100 lbs and you have a deal, but no hiking just jogging

I hike 200 miles with a 300 pound backpack every day! :laughing0301:
But unlike you I really ride in the 50 to 100 mile range when I ride. I figure 200 miles might be possible if I put my mind to it. This is the difference between you and I.

Neither your personal fitness nor braggadocio is the slightest bit relevant in this debate. FOCUS
What can you do that I can not do because you were vaccinated and I was not?

That is relevant

You may have antibodies. Unless you are tested for them, you don't know whether you're reasonably protected or not. I on the other hand, can feel pretty comfortable being unmasked around others who've been vaxed without a whole lot of worry. And I can ride on airplanes again while masked.

In short - You don't know - - - I DO
LOL how long do your antibodies last until you need to be vaccinated again? A week or month, six months. LOL I have antibodies too as I had covid

And how long do they last?
Not long as people who have been vaccinated are getting covid.
So what. It can't be used against you in court without a warrant and a Cause.
 
The vaccine needle is so so so miniscule that I had to ask the Pharmacist if she gave it to me already....? I had turned my head, don't like needles, of any kind! I felt nothing, not even a clue it had gone in and out of me.... Then watched her do my husband, he had the same reaction...did you do it already?

There is no microchip technology that tiny, or quick.
Still you gave the pharmacist your name before the injection so that you could be properly tracked.
It matters in this case because the pathogen is so contagious. Even second and potentially third doses may be needed.
Or you might need 3 doses every year for the rest of your life as I watch you from the side and laugh.
 
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