Gradeschool Teacher Shoots Herself In The Leg

[2aguy]

require a competency test to obtain a driver license but no such requirement (in most places) to own and/or carry a firearm.

Because, as many have pointed out, owning guns is a right...driving a car is not...much like the "literacy" tests in the democrat controlled south that they used to keep their former slaves from voting...that was deemed an infringement of the right to vote....competency tests and other government controlled requirements can too easily be used to keep people from excercising their right to keep and bear arms....

How do you get more people educated and handling them safely...education in the public schools at all levels would be a start....but the anti gunners block those efforts when they are tried....so...if they won't let us teach firearm safety to children...who is really more culpable when children accidentally shoot each other or themselves with an unattended firearm...?

 

[ClosedCaption]

It happens to seasoned cops. Even troops. Get over it.

I think you are making the OP's case and didnt realize it

 

[Mr. H.]

It happens to seasoned cops. Even troops. Get over it.

I think you are making the OP's case and didnt realize it

Oh, so you want some to?

 

[martybegan]

Parents and other school employees have the right to know if teachers/school personnel are carrying loaded guns. Surely, no one would disagree with that.

Yes, they should have meetings with the school board and decide if they want teachers to carry guns....as far as implementing the policy, the names and locations in the school district of the armed staff and teachers should be secret...that way they can arm fewer teachers and staff but the not knowing provides protection for the entire district...since the killers won't know which schools have armed staff and how many may confront them...

Most school violence is caused by students that attend the school, not mad gunman. If a teacher or principal has to use a gun, he will probably be to killing one of his students.

So? If said student is bent on a murderous rampage what's the problem if the teacher plugs him/her?

 

[jasonnfree]

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom Firebrand Progressives

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom

In a Taylorsville, Utah elementary school, a female teacher packing heat shot herself with a handgun while using the faculty bathroom. She was rushed to a local hospital and is reported to be in “good” condition.

The teacher reportedly had a conceal carry permit and was legally carrying the gun, which went off before classes started. No students or other faculty were injured in the shooting, although the gunshot was heard by some.

The bullet reportedly entered and exited the teacher’s leg.

As more teachers start carrying heat to class, look for more accidents like this to happen, and then ponder if the odds are more likely that a kid will be shot by an armed intruder or fellow student, or accidentally shot by an armed teacher, many of whom lack sufficient training in the proper use of firearms.

In the state of Utah, teachers with conceal carry permits may bring their guns into school without telling anyone.

More and video at the link.

Parents and other school employees have the right to know if teachers/school personnel are carrying loaded guns. Surely, no one would disagree with that.

How the fuck does a gun 'accidentally' go off?

Ask dick cheney. He had the same instructor this teacher had I think.

 

[Vandalshandle]

require a competency test to obtain a driver license but no such requirement (in most places) to own and/or carry a firearm.

Because, as many have pointed out, owning guns is a right...driving a car is not...much like the "literacy" tests in the democrat controlled south that they used to keep their former slaves from voting...that was deemed an infringement of the right to vote....competency tests and other government controlled requirements can too easily be used to keep people from excercising their right to keep and bear arms....

How do you get more people educated and handling them safely...education in the public schools at all levels would be a start....but the anti gunners block those efforts when they are tried....so...if they won't let us teach firearm safety to children...who is really more culpable when children accidentally shoot each other or themselves with an unattended firearm...?

Absolutely! We should start by taking all 9 year old girls to the rifle range and teach them how to fire an Uzi.....

 

[Brain357]

I see a lot of these types of shootings in the news. Can the gun people explain how it happens? Most guns seem to have enough safeties....

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom Firebrand Progressives

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom

In a Taylorsville, Utah elementary school, a female teacher packing heat shot herself with a handgun while using the faculty bathroom. She was rushed to a local hospital and is reported to be in “good” condition.

The teacher reportedly had a conceal carry permit and was legally carrying the gun, which went off before classes started. No students or other faculty were injured in the shooting, although the gunshot was heard by some.

The bullet reportedly entered and exited the teacher’s leg.

As more teachers start carrying heat to class, look for more accidents like this to happen, and then ponder if the odds are more likely that a kid will be shot by an armed intruder or fellow student, or accidentally shot by an armed teacher, many of whom lack sufficient training in the proper use of firearms.

In the state of Utah, teachers with conceal carry permits may bring their guns into school without telling anyone.

More and video at the link.

Parents and other school employees have the right to know if teachers/school personnel are carrying loaded guns. Surely, no one would disagree with that.

 

[Flopper]

Teachers are not solders. They are trained to teach, not kill. Putting a gun in the hands of someone who doesn't know what there're doing is a disaster waiting to happen.

While it's true that few teachers would be comfortable carrying concealed firearms and by no means should they be required to. But there are some teachers who are experienced shooters and would have no problem wearing a gun. And an armed, well-trained teacher or two would make a big difference if an armed psycho invaded their school.

The chance of a teacher being in a life and death situation with an armed gunman in the classroom is about 1 in 10 million. What do you think the chances are that this teacher who has worked for years in the classroom and never faced this situation will make the right split second decision?

:You're quite right about the odds. But I believe one of the reasons schools appeal to mass shooters is the current awareness that there are no armed personnel to be concerned with. This aversion to guns is a virtual invitation to them.

as of 2011

there are 99 thousand public schools in the USA

so the odds are much greater then one in ten million

when you look at the school shooting in Newtown for example

the principal made a split second decision to act

unfortunately she was only "armed" with a book

There are 3.6 million k-12 teachers and there was an average 15 students killed per year over 3 years. So you're right it's less than 10 million. I must have slipped a decimal point. The actual chances of a teacher being involved in a shooting is about 1 in 233,000 but that's assumes that all 3.6 million teachers are toting guns which of course is ridiculous. Anyway the odds of an armed teacher being involved in a shooting are incredible small. IMHO, the chances of a teacher actually using a gun effectively is infinitesimal small if he hasn't been trained as a law enforcement officer or by the military. As anyone who been in a shooting situation knows, there is a hell of a difference between shooting targets and making the split second decision to take someones life.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I see a lot of these types of shootings in the news. Can the gun people explain how it happens? Most guns seem to have enough safeties....

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom Firebrand Progressives

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom

In a Taylorsville, Utah elementary school, a female teacher packing heat shot herself with a handgun while using the faculty bathroom. She was rushed to a local hospital and is reported to be in “good” condition.

The teacher reportedly had a conceal carry permit and was legally carrying the gun, which went off before classes started. No students or other faculty were injured in the shooting, although the gunshot was heard by some.

The bullet reportedly entered and exited the teacher’s leg.

As more teachers start carrying heat to class, look for more accidents like this to happen, and then ponder if the odds are more likely that a kid will be shot by an armed intruder or fellow student, or accidentally shot by an armed teacher, many of whom lack sufficient training in the proper use of firearms.

In the state of Utah, teachers with conceal carry permits may bring their guns into school without telling anyone.

More and video at the link.

Parents and other school employees have the right to know if teachers/school personnel are carrying loaded guns. Surely, no one would disagree with that.

Stupidity.

In 25 + years, I've NEVER had an accidental discharge, In truth, in 25 years I have 3 planned discharges. MOST LEOs never fire their weapon in anger, what is the need to arm teachers?

 

[Flopper]

Parents and other school employees have the right to know if teachers/school personnel are carrying loaded guns. Surely, no one would disagree with that.

Yes, they should have meetings with the school board and decide if they want teachers to carry guns....as far as implementing the policy, the names and locations in the school district of the armed staff and teachers should be secret...that way they can arm fewer teachers and staff but the not knowing provides protection for the entire district...since the killers won't know which schools have armed staff and how many may confront them...

Most school violence is caused by students that attend the school, not mad gunman. If a teacher or principal has to use a gun, he will probably be to killing one of his students.

So? If said student is bent on a murderous rampage what's the problem if the teacher plugs him/her?

Well if he actually shoots the right person, then he'll be a hero. However, if he makes a mistake, he is in for a world of trouble and he has a gun and doesn't use it and kids die, then he's going to be held responsible. I don't see why any teacher would want to carry a gun to school. They don't get extra pay and the laws are unclear as to what the legal ramifications are if he shoots someone

In a tough school, if you carry a gun, it may scare some kids but it will make you a target for others. In gang neighborhoods, if teachers are carrying guns to school you can bet the gang kids will. It's just gang mentality.

 

[Flopper]

I see a lot of these types of shootings in the news. Can the gun people explain how it happens? Most guns seem to have enough safeties....

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom Firebrand Progressives

Teacher Packing Heat Negligently Shoots Herself In Leg While In Elementary School Restroom

In a Taylorsville, Utah elementary school, a female teacher packing heat shot herself with a handgun while using the faculty bathroom. She was rushed to a local hospital and is reported to be in “good” condition.

The teacher reportedly had a conceal carry permit and was legally carrying the gun, which went off before classes started. No students or other faculty were injured in the shooting, although the gunshot was heard by some.

The bullet reportedly entered and exited the teacher’s leg.

As more teachers start carrying heat to class, look for more accidents like this to happen, and then ponder if the odds are more likely that a kid will be shot by an armed intruder or fellow student, or accidentally shot by an armed teacher, many of whom lack sufficient training in the proper use of firearms.

In the state of Utah, teachers with conceal carry permits may bring their guns into school without telling anyone.

More and video at the link.

Parents and other school employees have the right to know if teachers/school personnel are carrying loaded guns. Surely, no one would disagree with that.

Stupidity.

In 25 + years, I've NEVER had an accidental discharge, In truth, in 25 years I have 3 planned discharges. MOST LEOs never fire their weapon in anger, what is the need to arm teachers?

None.

 

[jon_berzerk]

they hate programs like eddie eagle for example

And some fight to keep it out of schools...

doesnt make any sense

 

[jon_berzerk]

Teachers are not solders. They are trained to teach, not kill. Putting a gun in the hands of someone who doesn't know what there're doing is a disaster waiting to happen.

While it's true that few teachers would be comfortable carrying concealed firearms and by no means should they be required to. But there are some teachers who are experienced shooters and would have no problem wearing a gun. And an armed, well-trained teacher or two would make a big difference if an armed psycho invaded their school.

The chance of a teacher being in a life and death situation with an armed gunman in the classroom is about 1 in 10 million. What do you think the chances are that this teacher who has worked for years in the classroom and never faced this situation will make the right split second decision?

:You're quite right about the odds. But I believe one of the reasons schools appeal to mass shooters is the current awareness that there are no armed personnel to be concerned with. This aversion to guns is a virtual invitation to them.

as of 2011

there are 99 thousand public schools in the USA

so the odds are much greater then one in ten million

when you look at the school shooting in Newtown for example

the principal made a split second decision to act

unfortunately she was only "armed" with a book

There are 3.6 million k-12 teachers and there was an average 15 students killed per year over 3 years. So you're right it's less than 10 million. I must have slipped a decimal point. The actual chances of a teacher being involved in a shooting is about 1 in 233,000 but that's assumes that all 3.6 million teachers are toting guns which of course is ridiculous. Anyway the odds of an armed teacher being involved in a shooting are incredible small. IMHO, the chances of a teacher actually using a gun effectively is infinitesimal small if he hasn't been trained as a law enforcement officer or by the military. As anyone who been in a shooting situation knows, there is a hell of a difference between shooting targets and making the split second decision to take someones life.

there are teachers

administrators and janitors

that a very capable of handling a firearm

 

[Brain357]

Given this story it appears a teacher is far more likely to accidently shoot themself or someone else.

Teachers are not solders. They are trained to teach, not kill. Putting a gun in the hands of someone who doesn't know what there're doing is a disaster waiting to happen.

While it's true that few teachers would be comfortable carrying concealed firearms and by no means should they be required to. But there are some teachers who are experienced shooters and would have no problem wearing a gun. And an armed, well-trained teacher or two would make a big difference if an armed psycho invaded their school.

The chance of a teacher being in a life and death situation with an armed gunman in the classroom is about 1 in 10 million. What do you think the chances are that this teacher who has worked for years in the classroom and never faced this situation will make the right split second decision?

:You're quite right about the odds. But I believe one of the reasons schools appeal to mass shooters is the current awareness that there are no armed personnel to be concerned with. This aversion to guns is a virtual invitation to them.

as of 2011

there are 99 thousand public schools in the USA

so the odds are much greater then one in ten million

when you look at the school shooting in Newtown for example

the principal made a split second decision to act

unfortunately she was only "armed" with a book

There are 3.6 million k-12 teachers and there was an average 15 students killed per year over 3 years. So you're right it's less than 10 million. I must have slipped a decimal point. The actual chances of a teacher being involved in a shooting is about 1 in 233,000 but that's assumes that all 3.6 million teachers are toting guns which of course is ridiculous. Anyway the odds of an armed teacher being involved in a shooting are incredible small. IMHO, the chances of a teacher actually using a gun effectively is infinitesimal small if he hasn't been trained as a law enforcement officer or by the military. As anyone who been in a shooting situation knows, there is a hell of a difference between shooting targets and making the split second decision to take someones life.

 

[Flopper]

Teachers are not solders. They are trained to teach, not kill. Putting a gun in the hands of someone who doesn't know what there're doing is a disaster waiting to happen.

While it's true that few teachers would be comfortable carrying concealed firearms and by no means should they be required to. But there are some teachers who are experienced shooters and would have no problem wearing a gun. And an armed, well-trained teacher or two would make a big difference if an armed psycho invaded their school.

The chance of a teacher being in a life and death situation with an armed gunman in the classroom is about 1 in 10 million. What do you think the chances are that this teacher who has worked for years in the classroom and never faced this situation will make the right split second decision?

:You're quite right about the odds. But I believe one of the reasons schools appeal to mass shooters is the current awareness that there are no armed personnel to be concerned with. This aversion to guns is a virtual invitation to them.

as of 2011

there are 99 thousand public schools in the USA

so the odds are much greater then one in ten million

when you look at the school shooting in Newtown for example

the principal made a split second decision to act

unfortunately she was only "armed" with a book

There are 3.6 million k-12 teachers and there was an average 15 students killed per year over 3 years. So you're right it's less than 10 million. I must have slipped a decimal point. The actual chances of a teacher being involved in a shooting is about 1 in 233,000 but that's assumes that all 3.6 million teachers are toting guns which of course is ridiculous. Anyway the odds of an armed teacher being involved in a shooting are incredible small. IMHO, the chances of a teacher actually using a gun effectively is infinitesimal small if he hasn't been trained as a law enforcement officer or by the military. As anyone who been in a shooting situation knows, there is a hell of a difference between shooting targets and making the split second decision to take someones life.

there are teachers

administrators and janitors

that a very capable of handling a firearm

I think am pretty capable at handling firearms but that doesn't mean I'm capable of making a split second decision to kill a 14 year old kid. There's a big difference in knowing how to handle a gun and using it to take someone's life.

 

[2aguy]

well, apparently, teachers in Utah have been able to carry guns in school for 12'years now....how many negligent discharges? how many wounded students...? seems like the gun grabbers should have lots of examples of that.....could we see some of the others?

 

[Flopper]

well, apparently, teachers in Utah have been able to carry guns in school for 12'years now....how many negligent discharges? how many wounded students...? seems like the gun grabbers should have lots of examples of that.....could we see some of the others?

How many actually carry guns to school?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Teachers are not solders. They are trained to teach, not kill. Putting a gun in the hands of someone who doesn't know what there're doing is a disaster waiting to happen.

While it's true that few teachers would be comfortable carrying concealed firearms and by no means should they be required to. But there are some teachers who are experienced shooters and would have no problem wearing a gun. And an armed, well-trained teacher or two would make a big difference if an armed psycho invaded their school.

The chance of a teacher being in a life and death situation with an armed gunman in the classroom is about 1 in 10 million. What do you think the chances are that this teacher who has worked for years in the classroom and never faced this situation will make the right split second decision?

:You're quite right about the odds. But I believe one of the reasons schools appeal to mass shooters is the current awareness that there are no armed personnel to be concerned with. This aversion to guns is a virtual invitation to them.

as of 2011

there are 99 thousand public schools in the USA

so the odds are much greater then one in ten million

when you look at the school shooting in Newtown for example

the principal made a split second decision to act

unfortunately she was only "armed" with a book

There are 3.6 million k-12 teachers and there was an average 15 students killed per year over 3 years. So you're right it's less than 10 million. I must have slipped a decimal point. The actual chances of a teacher being involved in a shooting is about 1 in 233,000 but that's assumes that all 3.6 million teachers are toting guns which of course is ridiculous. Anyway the odds of an armed teacher being involved in a shooting are incredible small. IMHO, the chances of a teacher actually using a gun effectively is infinitesimal small if he hasn't been trained as a law enforcement officer or by the military. As anyone who been in a shooting situation knows, there is a hell of a difference between shooting targets and making the split second decision to take someones life.

there are teachers

administrators and janitors

that a very capable of handling a firearm

I think am pretty capable at handling firearms but that doesn't mean I'm capable of making a split second decision to kill a 14 year old kid. There's a big difference in knowing how to handle a gun and using it to take someone's life.

certainly however you are projecting your capabilities or inabilities onto others

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

If she was a college teacher it would have been in the foot.

 

[MikeK]

On the subject of armed teachers, rather than carrying a personal weapon, which can be cumbersome and uncomfortable, especially in summer, the notion occurs to me of a secure cabinet fastened to a wall in every classroom's closet and containing a loaded 12 ga. pump shotgun. This cabinet will be secured with a strong lock which only selected, willing, well-trained and certified-as-capable teachers would be provided a necklaced key for.

If a shooter entered such a school, rather than having dozens of teachers cowering helplessly in their classrooms along with their students it would be a matter of time before one (or more) of those teachers would be able to take the shooter out.

Feasible idea? Or not?