Gun control succeeds again, convicted felon has "illegal" guns that New Yorkers can't own...

[2aguy]

Yes.....many of the guns this convicted felon had are not legal for normal New Yorkers to own.....and unless you are rich and can hire a lawyer to get throught the legal morass to get a concealed carry permit...you aren't getting a concealed carry permit...but this convicted felon was carrying a gun illegally as well...

So....great gun control success...normal New Yorkers are kept from guns....and since anti gun jihadis could care less about criminals with guns....a win win all the way around...

New York man gets 12 years for illegal cache of guns

Antonio Olmeda, of New York, New York, pleaded guilty last year to three counts of being a convicted felon in possession of various firearms, two counts of possessing an unregistered machine gun and one count of possessing an unregistered short-barreled shotgun. He was arrested in December 2011 in connection with an alleged attempt to shoot two New York police officers.

“Antonio Olmeda, a one-man armory, was a convicted felon in possession of a vast cache of deadly weapons. He violated federal law by possessing guns at all, and even had he not been a convicted felon, he violated federal law by failing to register certain of the weapons,” said U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara.


So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

 

[ogibillm]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

 

[2aguy]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Were you trying to be clever.....? He was a convicted felon.....he couldn't own any of those guns even if they were legal....do you guys ever think before you post?

About a year later, on Sept. 6, 2012, officers searched a storage locker in Olmeda’s name and found a sawed-off shotgun, two sniper rifles with scopes, two machine guns, at least eight pistols, a revolver, and numerous rounds of ammunition. In all, police recovered:

• Springfield Armory Ultra Compact .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun
• Taurus 85 Ultralite .38 caliber revolver
• Olympic Arms PCR03 .223 caliber fully-automatic rifle
• Smith & Wesson .40 caliber semi-automatic pistol
• Beretta 92SB Compact 9-mm Luger semi-automatic pistol
• Cobray Industries M-11 9-mm Luger fully automatic pistol
• Remington model Mohawk 600 .308 caliber rifle
• Roggio Arsenal model RA-15 rifle receiver/frame
• Interarms rifle
• Three Springfield Armory model 1911A1 .45-caliber pistols
• Sig Sauer model SP 2022 9-mm pistol
• Taurus model PT140 Millenium .40 caliber pistol
• Smith & Wesson model 4006 .40 caliber pistol
• Star Bonifacio Echeverria model Firestar 9-mm pistol
• Charter Arms model Police Undercover .32 caliber revolver
• Walther model PPK/S .380 caliber pistol
• Vulcan Arms model V15 7.62×39-mm machine gun
• Norinco AK-type 7.62×39-mm machine gun
• Mossberg model 500A 12-gauge shotgun
• A .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol of unknown make and model

Also inside the locker, officers found a lifelike mask that could be used to disguise one’s face and various protective gear, including bulletproof vests and gas masks.

Olmeda had two prior felony convictions: possession of a dangerous weapon in 1995, and criminal possession of ammo in 2002.

And of course, only normal, law abiding New Yorkers would have a hard time getting any of those guns.......a felon.....gets them whenever they want or need them....

 

[2aguy]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

 

[ogibillm]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

 

[TheOldSchool]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Were you trying to be clever.....? He was a convicted felon.....he couldn't own any of those guns even if they were legal....do you guys ever think before you post?

About a year later, on Sept. 6, 2012, officers searched a storage locker in Olmeda’s name and found a sawed-off shotgun, two sniper rifles with scopes, two machine guns, at least eight pistols, a revolver, and numerous rounds of ammunition. In all, police recovered:

• Springfield Armory Ultra Compact .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun
• Taurus 85 Ultralite .38 caliber revolver
• Olympic Arms PCR03 .223 caliber fully-automatic rifle
• Smith & Wesson .40 caliber semi-automatic pistol
• Beretta 92SB Compact 9-mm Luger semi-automatic pistol
• Cobray Industries M-11 9-mm Luger fully automatic pistol
• Remington model Mohawk 600 .308 caliber rifle
• Roggio Arsenal model RA-15 rifle receiver/frame
• Interarms rifle
• Three Springfield Armory model 1911A1 .45-caliber pistols
• Sig Sauer model SP 2022 9-mm pistol
• Taurus model PT140 Millenium .40 caliber pistol
• Smith & Wesson model 4006 .40 caliber pistol
• Star Bonifacio Echeverria model Firestar 9-mm pistol
• Charter Arms model Police Undercover .32 caliber revolver
• Walther model PPK/S .380 caliber pistol
• Vulcan Arms model V15 7.62×39-mm machine gun
• Norinco AK-type 7.62×39-mm machine gun
• Mossberg model 500A 12-gauge shotgun
• A .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol of unknown make and model

Also inside the locker, officers found a lifelike mask that could be used to disguise one’s face and various protective gear, including bulletproof vests and gas masks.

Olmeda had two prior felony convictions: possession of a dangerous weapon in 1995, and criminal possession of ammo in 2002.

And of course, only normal, law abiding New Yorkers would have a hard time getting any of those guns.......a felon.....gets them whenever they want or need them....

I wonder how many of those guns were created and sold perfectly legally at the start of their lives. Of course then they end up vanishing into the ocean of guns the fetishists in this country have created. Oh well best solution = MORE GUNS!!! WOOHOOO!!!

 

[2aguy]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

 

[2aguy]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Were you trying to be clever.....? He was a convicted felon.....he couldn't own any of those guns even if they were legal....do you guys ever think before you post?

About a year later, on Sept. 6, 2012, officers searched a storage locker in Olmeda’s name and found a sawed-off shotgun, two sniper rifles with scopes, two machine guns, at least eight pistols, a revolver, and numerous rounds of ammunition. In all, police recovered:

• Springfield Armory Ultra Compact .45-caliber semi-automatic handgun
• Taurus 85 Ultralite .38 caliber revolver
• Olympic Arms PCR03 .223 caliber fully-automatic rifle
• Smith & Wesson .40 caliber semi-automatic pistol
• Beretta 92SB Compact 9-mm Luger semi-automatic pistol
• Cobray Industries M-11 9-mm Luger fully automatic pistol
• Remington model Mohawk 600 .308 caliber rifle
• Roggio Arsenal model RA-15 rifle receiver/frame
• Interarms rifle
• Three Springfield Armory model 1911A1 .45-caliber pistols
• Sig Sauer model SP 2022 9-mm pistol
• Taurus model PT140 Millenium .40 caliber pistol
• Smith & Wesson model 4006 .40 caliber pistol
• Star Bonifacio Echeverria model Firestar 9-mm pistol
• Charter Arms model Police Undercover .32 caliber revolver
• Walther model PPK/S .380 caliber pistol
• Vulcan Arms model V15 7.62×39-mm machine gun
• Norinco AK-type 7.62×39-mm machine gun
• Mossberg model 500A 12-gauge shotgun
• A .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol of unknown make and model

Also inside the locker, officers found a lifelike mask that could be used to disguise one’s face and various protective gear, including bulletproof vests and gas masks.

Olmeda had two prior felony convictions: possession of a dangerous weapon in 1995, and criminal possession of ammo in 2002.

And of course, only normal, law abiding New Yorkers would have a hard time getting any of those guns.......a felon.....gets them whenever they want or need them....

I wonder how many of those guns were created and sold perfectly legally at the start of their lives. Of course then they end up vanishing into the ocean of guns the fetishists in this country have created. Oh well best solution = MORE GUNS!!! WOOHOOO!!!

No...the solution is exactly what happened.......he was stopped and had the cops found the gun he would have been arrested for being a felon in possession of an illegal gun....two crimes right there.......no licensing needed, no registration needed, no universal background check needed......

And when he shot at the police...again.....another felony.....

However....he should have got life in prison for attempted murder......

why is it that if you intend to commit murder but fail, you get to get out of jail one day...since you obviously tried to murder someone.....

 

[ogibillm]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

 

[2aguy]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

 

[ogibillm]

And just think, if they were legal to own he'd still be on the street

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

 

[2aguy]

Care to actually answer any of my questions?

So....

Do you think he passed current background checks to get these illegal guns?

Do you think he would pass "universal background checks" if they are created?

Do you think he was bothered by the concealed carry laws of New York?

This guy was captured just like every other criminal.....he was caught when he broke the law....and as a convicted felon....he was done for when he was stopped by the police in possession of a gun...which is already against the law for a felon and would have sent him back to prison.

And to arrest this guy they didn't need to license any gun owners...

To arrest this guy they didn't need to register any guns....

To arrest this guy they didn't need universal background checks.....

Since the above 3 things are true....why do we need any of them since current laws already deal with this guys crimes?

Can any of you anti gun extremists explain that....pretty please....?

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

 

[TheOldSchool]

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

Man... you seem.... to know that...... pretty.......... well......

Is it.... from...... experience?.........

 

[ogibillm]

So you don't think he might have been caught sooner with registrations or background checks? Where did he get the guns? Maybe we'd know if there were registrations and universal background checks.

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

If they were registered we'd know if they were stolen or bought through a straw purchaser.

 

[2aguy]

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

Man... you seem.... to know that...... pretty.......... well......

Is it.... from...... experience?.........

Yeah...it takes a real genius to know how police catch real criminals......

 

[2aguy]

Guy......he was in New York...they have all of that.....and they even had stop and frisk when this guy was stockpilig his guns....and they didn't catch him....did they?

How would background checks stop this guy...since he is a felong from the 90s he couldn't legally buy a gun in the first place....so he obviously didn't go through any background checks...right?

Registering the guns.....first, according to the Supreme Court in a ruling from the 30s, a convicted felon does not have to register illegal guns...since that would violate his right against self incrimination...

Second, how would registering these guns have stopped him from getting them?

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

If they were registered we'd know if they were stolen or bought through a straw purchaser.

Nope...no point in knowing if they were stolen...since they were stolen...and the straw purchaser...can be caught by current police work with the perp ratting them out.......or the straw purchaser would simply have reported them lost or stolen.....so you can't get them...

So again, registration is pointless and unecessary.....

 

[ogibillm]

Those guns came from somewhere - somewhere not necessarily new york.

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

If they were registered we'd know if they were stolen or bought through a straw purchaser.

Nope...no point in knowing if they were stolen...since they were stolen...and the straw purchaser...can be caught by current police work with the perp ratting them out.......or the straw purchaser would simply have reported them lost or stolen.....so you can't get them...

So again, registration is pointless and unecessary.....

How many times can a straw purchaser report guns as lost or stolen without bringing suspicion onto themselves?

 

[2aguy]

So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

If they were registered we'd know if they were stolen or bought through a straw purchaser.

Nope...no point in knowing if they were stolen...since they were stolen...and the straw purchaser...can be caught by current police work with the perp ratting them out.......or the straw purchaser would simply have reported them lost or stolen.....so you can't get them...

So again, registration is pointless and unecessary.....

How many times can a straw purchaser report guns as lost or stolen without bringing suspicion onto themselves?

Felons use multiple buyers....and they are criminals...they don't exactly employ the brightest people to make illegal gun purchases that could end with the buyer in jail for years...for a relatively cash payment....

 

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So. No matter where they came from he is still a convicted felon...and could not buy them legally anywhere....background checks would have to be gotten around, and registration would be gotten around......

Neither one would have done anything to stop this guy....why can't you see that....?

New York makes it impossible for normal New Yorkers to buy the very guns this guy owned...so all the gun control in New York only affects law abiding gun owners, and not the criminals you claim you wanted stopped.

Somebody supplied him with thise guns, but since we don't require registration that supplier is still out there, still selling guns to people that shouldnt have them

If they want the supplier they cut him a deal...just like they do with drug dealers....again, no need to register any gun.....and how do you know those guns weren't stolen or bought through a straw purchaser....which is the two main ways felons get guns...the third way being buying from another criminal who already did the first two things....

If they were registered we'd know if they were stolen or bought through a straw purchaser.

Nope...no point in knowing if they were stolen...since they were stolen...and the straw purchaser...can be caught by current police work with the perp ratting them out.......or the straw purchaser would simply have reported them lost or stolen.....so you can't get them...

So again, registration is pointless and unecessary.....

How many times can a straw purchaser report guns as lost or stolen without bringing suspicion onto themselves?

Another New York felon....this story is from earlier in the week...

New York police charge 8 in Brooklyn gun running ring

Shutting down an operation that funneled 112 guns from Pittsburgh and Atlanta into the city, authorities in Brooklyn announced a series of arrests and showed off a haul of firearms.

Brooklyn District Attorney Ken Thompson on Wednesday announced a 541-count indictment on a host of weapon and conspiracy charges against eight defendants who allegedly purchased numerous guns and, over the period of a year, sold them to undercover officers in Brooklyn.

Using Chinatown buses for transportation, the primary defendant, Michael Bassier, 31, the Canarsie section of Brooklyn, allegedly made a dozen trips to Atlanta and brought back several handguns on each return. Bassier also made shorter trips by car to Pittsburgh where he also picked up firearms for the underground market back in the Big Apple. He then in turn sold them to undercover New York Police detectives at a Walgreens parking lot on Rockaway Parkway in Canarsie.

“I commend the members of NYPD’s Firearms Investigations Unit, whose dedication to this dangerous long-term investigation not only prevented more than 100 firearms from reaching the streets of Brooklyn, but undoubtedly saved lives in the process,” said New York City Police Commissioner William J. Bratton in a statement.

Also charged was Willie Ware, 26, of Canarsie, and Anthony Jackson, 25, of Brooklyn who allegedly acted as Bassier’s brokers and lookouts in New York City, helping to set up deals with buyers.

Three defendants in Georgia and two in Pennsylvania, primarily women, were also indicted for their role as illegal straw buyers in those locations, picking up guns from pawn shops and gun stores as well as other sources which they then passed on to Bassier on his visits.

According to officials, guns would be acquired for typically between $150 to $300 by the straw buyers who would be reimbursed by Bassier who would then pay each illegal buyer a $50 finder’s fee per gun. In his exchanges with undercover detectives, Bassier then sold the firearms for as much as $1,200 apiece.

As part of the buys, dating back to September 2014, police paid Bassier $130,050 for 112 guns.

The majority of firearms were inexpensive guns such as Hi-Point, Bersa and Jimenez Arms models, along with a smattering of higher end firearms. Although displayed prominently in images released by the NYPD, four guns that appear to be suppressed 9mm UZIs are actually Walther/Umarex MP .22 caliber clones commonly sold with non-functional fake silencers.


See how they actually do it.......they get stupid people to buy the guns for them...

An they didn't need to register the guns, license all gun owners to catch this guy did they?