Gun tragedy at Nordtstrom...when the police can't protect you....

[Vandalshandle]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

A person's house is not a place of business.

 

[Vandalshandle]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

A person's house is not a place of business.

Nobody said it was, Lonestar. It is private property. Try to keep up...

 

[2aguy]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public.

Ohhhh...but wait.....they have created a public acommodation....just ask the gay people taking bakers and photographers to court over violations of civil rights.....so if they have a store...open to the public....then banning guns carried by citizens is violating the civil rights of those customers......since the right to bear arms is a right guaranteed and written into the Bill of Rights...even more powerful than a law....

So if the gays can do it because they want a cake and pictures...and the owners of those businesses can't refuse service.....then these businesses should not be able to ban carrying a gun onto their premises by a legal citizen or legal immigrant.....right....?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Driving home from church WGN was discussing the murder of a 22 year old woman by her ex boyfriend at the Nordtstrom where she worked....From the discussion, this guy had been abusive when they dated and after they broke up, he had harrassed her constantly, threatening to kill himself and or her...and called her family and her sister...and would not back off. She apparently tried to get a restraining order on numerous times (Which is pointless....for the deranged, like this guy, it would have done nothing to protect her) but judges continuously turned her down.....

So, on Friday...he walked into her work, a Chicago Nordtstroms store, a gun free zone....and shot her, and then himself...

Okay anti gunners....how would you have protected this woman? Take the gun out of the equation....this guy was going to kill this girl wether or not he had a gun....just ask the women who were stabbed, strangled, beaten or set on fire with gasoline.....

How would you have stopped this....keep in mind...apparently her family works for the Chicago Police dept. and even that didn't help her over the entire year she was being stalked....

Deadly Black Friday shooting at crowded Chicago Nordstrom Fox News

Police said the man shot his girlfriend, or ex-girlfriend, and then fatally shot himself. The station said shoppers were so scared they ran out of the store, leaving their bags and coats behind.

“I heard the two pops, then I just heard screaming,” a woman shopper told the station. “Then I just saw people running. I saw bags. It was terrifying.”

So...the police couldn't help her...the courts couldn't help her....she worked in a gun free zone...which obviously did not help her....and again...even if you sprinkled pixie dust and made all guns disapear from the planet....he would still have tried to kill her....just with a knife, his hands or any other number of primitive weapons.....

So anti gunners, how would you have saved this woman?

Sometimes, as here, there's only one way to save a victim and victim-to-be, terminate the threat first.

 

[2aguy]

As has been pointed out by PoliticalChic....if someone applies for and receives a restraining order...they should get an automatic waiver for the waiting period for a firearm....and to all of those stalking victims who may be reading this post....don't wait for the attacker....get a gun, get the training and get the permit to carry, if possible, before it escalates and you have no time left.....

You may never need to use your gun....but if you have it, and need it, all of the bureaucratic crap won't get you killed....

 

[Conservative65]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

Your sister not allowing your brother to bring a gun into her house has everything to do with her rules. He is obligated to leave it in his car.

My right to carry one is public under the law trumps anything you might have to say about me not being able to do so. You gun haters have come up with your religion on such things. If you don't like it, no one should be able to do it.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

A person's house is not a place of business.

Nobody said it was, Lonestar. It is private property. Try to keep up...

Stick to the topic, which has nothing to do with private property.

Do try to keep up!!

 

[Vandalshandle]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

Your sister not allowing your brother to bring a gun into her house has everything to do with her rules. He is obligated to leave it in his car.

My right to carry one is public under the law trumps anything you might have to say about me not being able to do so. You gun haters have come up with your religion on such things. If you don't like it, no one should be able to do it.

Gee, 65, where did I say that you have no right to carry a gun in public? I said that you can not carry a gun on private property, if the owner bans them.

 

[Vandalshandle]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

A person's house is not a place of business.

Nobody said it was, Lonestar. It is private property. Try to keep up...

Stick to the topic, which has nothing to do with private property.

Do try to keep up!!

I'll try to explain this to you sop that even you can understand, Lone. The OP is arguing that the law should allow a person to carry a gun, even on private property, which has been declared a "gun free zone" by the owner. I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café. The government has no right to force me to allow guns in my café. The OP is now bring up "Public Accommodation" laws. I will be happy to accommodate any gun owner, as long as he leaves his gun outside my café. I am sure that the law will also allow the cake maker to throw gays out of his shop if they insist on having sex on the cake counter.

 

[Conservative65]

My right to ban your gun from my private property trumps your right to pack heat in public. It is as simple as that. My sister, for example, will not allow my brother to bring his pistol into her house. He is obligated to either leave it in his car, or not come over at all.

Now, if gun fanatics come up with a religion that requires them to carry loaded guns wherever they go...something I fully expect the NRA to come up with some day...things might have to be changed.

Your sister not allowing your brother to bring a gun into her house has everything to do with her rules. He is obligated to leave it in his car.

My right to carry one is public under the law trumps anything you might have to say about me not being able to do so. You gun haters have come up with your religion on such things. If you don't like it, no one should be able to do it.

Gee, 65, where did I say that you have no right to carry a gun in public? I said that you can not carry a gun on private property, if the owner bans them.

Yet I bet you support the owner of a private business, let's say a bakery, having to serve homosexuals wanting a wedding cake.

 

[Conservative65]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

Tough luck, 65. I was the only one who was allowed to have a gun in my café...And I did.

 

[jillian]

Driving home from church WGN was discussing the murder of a 22 year old woman by her ex boyfriend at the Nordtstrom where she worked....From the discussion, this guy had been abusive when they dated and after they broke up, he had harrassed her constantly, threatening to kill himself and or her...and called her family and her sister...and would not back off. She apparently tried to get a restraining order on numerous times (Which is pointless....for the deranged, like this guy, it would have done nothing to protect her) but judges continuously turned her down.....

So, on Friday...he walked into her work, a Chicago Nordtstroms store, a gun free zone....and shot her, and then himself...

Okay anti gunners....how would you have protected this woman? Take the gun out of the equation....this guy was going to kill this girl wether or not he had a gun....just ask the women who were stabbed, strangled, beaten or set on fire with gasoline.....

How would you have stopped this....keep in mind...apparently her family works for the Chicago Police dept. and even that didn't help her over the entire year she was being stalked....

Deadly Black Friday shooting at crowded Chicago Nordstrom Fox News

Police said the man shot his girlfriend, or ex-girlfriend, and then fatally shot himself. The station said shoppers were so scared they ran out of the store, leaving their bags and coats behind.

“I heard the two pops, then I just heard screaming,” a woman shopper told the station. “Then I just saw people running. I saw bags. It was terrifying.”

So...the police couldn't help her...the courts couldn't help her....she worked in a gun free zone...which obviously did not help her....and again...even if you sprinkled pixie dust and made all guns disapear from the planet....he would still have tried to kill her....just with a knife, his hands or any other number of primitive weapons.....

So anti gunners, how would you have saved this woman?

so because crime still happens, nothing should be illegal? right?

and no, an order of protection doesn't stop a bullet.

 

[jillian]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

er... no. it isn't.

 

[Conservative65]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

Tough luck, 65. I was the only one who was allowed to have a gun in my café...And I did.

So it's tough luck on what's in the Constitution but you support dick suckers having the ability to be catered to on something not in it. Typical of your lowlife kind.

 

[Conservative65]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

er... no. it isn't.

Then a private business saying they won't serve faggots isn't a violation of their rights. Bet you disagree.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

Tough luck, 65. I was the only one who was allowed to have a gun in my café...And I did.

So it's tough luck on what's in the Constitution but you support dick suckers having the ability to be catered to on something not in it. Typical of your lowlife kind.

Sorry, 65. I did not realize that this thread was about gun grabbing gays. I must have missed that part....

 

[Skull Pilot]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

No it's not.

The conditions for you entering private property are set by the property owner.

If some idiot walked into my business and started reading aloud from a bible would I have to let him? No.

If he wanted to silently read his bible I would have no problem with that.

That said if you are carrying a concealed weapon no one would know

When i carry I don't care if there is a no firearms sign in a business's window I'll enter anyway because no one would ever know short of frisking me if I was carrying. And they do not have the right to frisk me.

 

[Conservative65]

I used to own a café. I did not allow guns in my café.

That's a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights.

Tough luck, 65. I was the only one who was allowed to have a gun in my café...And I did.

So it's tough luck on what's in the Constitution but you support dick suckers having the ability to be catered to on something not in it. Typical of your lowlife kind.

Sorry, 65. I did not realize that this thread was about gun grabbing gays. I must have missed that part....

It's about your hypocrisy. You claim to have a right to tell people not to bring certain things into your private business yet I suspect you would support a private business having to serve certain "things" they disagree with.