Guns And KKK Members At Gettysburg Confederate Rally, But No Foes To Fight

[MaryL]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

 

[rightwinger]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

That is a myth

Slaves were used for manual labor but the south was terrified of arming them

 

[NYcarbineer]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

Confederate conscription of whites was the first draft ever in America.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"After singing the National Anthem and performing the Pledge of Allegiance, the hundreds of Southern Army enthusiasts ― many of whom wore Trump pins, hats or T-shirts ― took a moment to honor the Confederate flag."

 

[tinydancer]

The battle was amazing.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You know these debates are always fun because half the folks don't
know anything about history.

Lincoln wanted to abolish slavery because he didn't believe America
would ever be accepted on the world stage as long as the country had
slavery. But, he had zero use for the AA's. Is his initial plan to free the
slaves and then shp all 4 million to Central America. He didn't want
them staying here.

The Emancipation Proclamation didn't free all the slaves. Actuality
it didn't free any of them. It was written that it only freed the slaves
in the States that had seceded from the Union. The slave holders
in Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey and Missouri got to keep theirs.

Also the 48 western most counties of Virginia were also allowed
to keep their slaves. As a matter of fact...thos 48 counties united
to become West Virginia and when they were admitted to the Union
10 months after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, they
entered the Union as a Slave State.

The North fought to preserve the Union, the South fought for States
Rights and none of them cared about the Slaves. Well, John Brown
cared, but when Brown was cornered at Harper's Ferry, Pres Buchannan
sent 60 US Marines there to bring him in. They did and then a month
later we hung him.

Go back to your invented history...you'll feel better.

The south was comprised of 40% slaves
They formed their own country to ensure slavery would be allowed forever

The so-called aristocracy of the South was the most pro-secessionist segment of the population. The working class, not so much.
John Brown's raid spooked the hell out of Southerners; they became terrified of the idea of a slave rebellion.

 

[MaryL]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

That is a myth

Slaves were used for manual labor but the south was terrified of arming them

I saw Ken Burns series on the civil war. I just looked this up, and I am seeing proof to the opposite.

 

[whitehall]

The Confederacy? This ain't the history forum. A freaking maniac who was radicalized by the angry and incoherent left tried to murder conservative republican congresspeople with a rifle last freaking month.

 

[rightwinger]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

That is a myth

Slaves were used for manual labor but the south was terrified of arming them

I saw Ken Burns series on the civil war. I just looked this up, and I am seeing proof to the opposite.

No you didn't
You don't understand the social standing of slaves
To arm them and give them status as soldiers would make them the equivalent of whites
The south was always terrified of armed slaves

 

[Correll]

Social conservatives understand that your lefty move to marginalize southern pride in their heritage is part of a larger attempt to marginalize all American pride in their national heritage.

The confederacy is nothing to be proud of. I bet social conservatives have no idea that the confederate battle flag was practically nonexistent until black people starting demanding equal rights. Suddenly, the flag made a yuuuuge comeback! Do you think people suddenly started flying it then to celebrate their heritage, and not at all to marginalize a certain segment of Americans?

Your opinion is noted, and meaningless as plenty of people obviously disagree.


The Confederate Battle Flag never went away.


from 1913.

The rag blew up in populatiry as a means of protesting the civil rights movement. Nice photo there, though. It would be nice to go back to a time when the confederate rag was only seen during history ceremonies.

1913, and the flag is flying next to an American flag at a joint Union/Confederate veterans reunion.


That shit cans your claim that the flag was practically nonexistent until civil rights era.

Are you hearing voices in your head now? I didn't say they were completely gone. But the fact is that there was an explosion in the use of the confederate battle rag as a means of attacking members of the civil rights movement.

Really?

First of all, your words from just above."I bet social conservatives have no idea that the confederate battle flag was practically nonexistent until"
WW
Being presented at a place of honor at a joint Union Confederate army reunion at GETTYSBURGH, is the exact opposite of practically nonexistent.


Second of all, how the fuck old are you to know what the flag was doing post civil war though the turn of the century, WWI, the roaring twenties, the Great Depression, WW II, and the 50s?

 

[PredFan]

The anti-fascists never came, but pro-Confederate protesters at the Civil War battlefield were still angry, and heavily armed.

GETTYSBURG, Pa. ― A few hundred armed militia group members, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Ku Klux Klaners, supporters of President Donald Trump, and other self-described patriots descended upon the Gettysburg battlefield Saturday to defend the site’s Confederate symbols from phantom activists with the violent far-left group Antifa.

Some carried semi-automatic rifles ― permitted in Pennsylvania ― as they peered out across the battlefield with binoculars, on the lookout for the black-clad, face-masked anti-fascists, anarchists and socialists they said they had heard were traveling to the national park to dishonor Confederate graves, monuments and flags.

Although many came expecting violence ― even after Antifa made it clear its adherents never planned to show up ― the only bloodshed came when a lone militia group member accidentally shot himself in the leg.

Pictures & More: Guns And KKK Members At Gettysburg Confederate Rally, But No Foes To Fight

This seems like a sad and hateful way to celebrate Independence Day. What do you think...?

That's why they didn't come. A victory for the good guys!

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you have a hardcore interest in the history of that period, try reading A History of the Southern Confederacy, by Clement Eaton.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The anti-fascists never came, but pro-Confederate protesters at the Civil War battlefield were still angry, and heavily armed.

GETTYSBURG, Pa. ― A few hundred armed militia group members, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Ku Klux Klaners, supporters of President Donald Trump, and other self-described patriots descended upon the Gettysburg battlefield Saturday to defend the site’s Confederate symbols from phantom activists with the violent far-left group Antifa.

Some carried semi-automatic rifles ― permitted in Pennsylvania ― as they peered out across the battlefield with binoculars, on the lookout for the black-clad, face-masked anti-fascists, anarchists and socialists they said they had heard were traveling to the national park to dishonor Confederate graves, monuments and flags.

Although many came expecting violence ― even after Antifa made it clear its adherents never planned to show up ― the only bloodshed came when a lone militia group member accidentally shot himself in the leg.

Pictures & More: Guns And KKK Members At Gettysburg Confederate Rally, But No Foes To Fight

This seems like a sad and hateful way to celebrate Independence Day. What do you think...?

That's why they didn't come. A victory for the good guys!

"...the only bloodshed came when a lone militia group member accidentally shot himself in the leg...."

 

[Correll]

THe brunette in the red. She believes that if Lincoln had been honest about what an Abolitionist he was, that he would have lost the election, and the Boll Weevil would have ended slavery soon enough with far less loss of life.

Ah so srhe would have advocated for slaves to have patience and faith in the white folk, who eventually opted to lose their lives for a shot at maintaining slavery

As always, I am not responsible for the voices in your head.

If you want to go back and re reply, I will keep rereading your attempts until you overcome your Barriers to Communication and actually manage to receive in your mind, the words I put on the screen.


Until then, this pretty cat picture is for you.

Too much effort for a poor dodge.

Regardless, it is today's social conservatives that celebrate the Confederacy. And we know what party the overwhelming majority of them belong to.

Mmm, nope. Celebrating the Confederacy has been accepted an expression of regional pride in this nation for many generations.


But it is mostly limited to the South, or at least southerns, while social conservatives are a nation wide population.


So, your words are simply incorrect.

Also, I've worked and stayed in the south for months at a time. Near as I could tell, the political split was not that overwhelming.


Plenty of proud southerns who, for whatever odd reason, seemed to buy the political tripe you dems put out.

It is a celebration of the good ole days when negroes knew their place

Your vile slander of a whole region of the nation, might have something to do with your inability to win there.


Does it bother you that you have lie and race bait in order to pretend even to yourself that you scored a point?

 

[PredFan]

The anti-fascists never came, but pro-Confederate protesters at the Civil War battlefield were still angry, and heavily armed.

GETTYSBURG, Pa. ― A few hundred armed militia group members, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Ku Klux Klaners, supporters of President Donald Trump, and other self-described patriots descended upon the Gettysburg battlefield Saturday to defend the site’s Confederate symbols from phantom activists with the violent far-left group Antifa.

Some carried semi-automatic rifles ― permitted in Pennsylvania ― as they peered out across the battlefield with binoculars, on the lookout for the black-clad, face-masked anti-fascists, anarchists and socialists they said they had heard were traveling to the national park to dishonor Confederate graves, monuments and flags.

Although many came expecting violence ― even after Antifa made it clear its adherents never planned to show up ― the only bloodshed came when a lone militia group member accidentally shot himself in the leg.

Pictures & More: Guns And KKK Members At Gettysburg Confederate Rally, But No Foes To Fight

This seems like a sad and hateful way to celebrate Independence Day. What do you think...?

That's why they didn't come. A victory for the good guys!

"...the only bloodshed came when a lone militia group member accidentally shot himself in the leg...."

Again, cowards like on the left only go to gun-free and resistance-free zones. A victory for the good guys!

 

[Correll]

How is banning the confederate battle flag going to stop racism? What is the connection here? I know people are offended by it. I am offended by people that blare out loud music and disturb the peace, I am offended that people can't legally immigrate legally or learn English. Life goes on, somehow. Do what I do, take a deep breath and go to your happy place. Or drink a lot.

Or go to your happy place AND drink a lot.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The anti-fascists never came, but pro-Confederate protesters at the Civil War battlefield were still angry, and heavily armed.

GETTYSBURG, Pa. ― A few hundred armed militia group members, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Ku Klux Klaners, supporters of President Donald Trump, and other self-described patriots descended upon the Gettysburg battlefield Saturday to defend the site’s Confederate symbols from phantom activists with the violent far-left group Antifa.

Some carried semi-automatic rifles ― permitted in Pennsylvania ― as they peered out across the battlefield with binoculars, on the lookout for the black-clad, face-masked anti-fascists, anarchists and socialists they said they had heard were traveling to the national park to dishonor Confederate graves, monuments and flags.

Although many came expecting violence ― even after Antifa made it clear its adherents never planned to show up ― the only bloodshed came when a lone militia group member accidentally shot himself in the leg.

Pictures & More: Guns And KKK Members At Gettysburg Confederate Rally, But No Foes To Fight

This seems like a sad and hateful way to celebrate Independence Day. What do you think...?

Irony is like an onion, it has many layers. And it makes you cry. People that are celebrating breaking from the union to become independent so they can maintain taking away people's liberty. To quote Alice: Curiouser and curious-ER.

If the democrats brown shirt goons had shown up, they would have been cut down as the thug scum they are, The democrats can only attack the unarmed.

 

[MaryL]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

That is a myth

Slaves were used for manual labor but the south was terrified of arming them

I saw Ken Burns series on the civil war. I just looked this up, and I am seeing proof to the opposite.

No you didn't
You don't understand the social standing of slaves
To arm them and give them status as soldiers would make them the equivalent of whites
The south was always terrified of armed slaves

I do, a few blacks fought for and defended the Confederacy. I don't begin to pretend I can wrap my mind around THAT. It doesn't legitimize anything. It is what it is. There were also Jewish collaborators with the Nazis and helped in the extermination process, too. We are human, we are conflicted.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Confederates got their asses kicked at Gettsburg

They did? Pick up a history book, troll.

Sent back home with their tails between their legs

Got a spanking

False, it was a bloody engagement that left thousands dead, The Confederacy lost, but extracted a serious toll on the Union. Why do you lie about this? I get that you are a troll and a Nazi, but what is your purpose in trying to rewrite history?

The great Robert E Lee was fighting bumbling George Meade who had command of his army for a full two days before Gettysburg

Meade beat him at Little Round Top, Culps Hill and crushed Picketts Charge

Lee went scampering back to Virginia as fast as he could and never dared invade the north again

Say shitflinger, what was the death toll on each side?


What was that? I didn't hear your answer, fucktard...

 

[Correll]

The confederacy actually resorted to conscripting blacks to fight for them? Isn't that another layer of irony? people that were enslaved, fighting to preserve slavery.

That is a myth

Slaves were used for manual labor but the south was terrified of arming them

I saw Ken Burns series on the civil war. I just looked this up, and I am seeing proof to the opposite.

No you didn't
You don't understand the social standing of slaves
To arm them and give them status as soldiers would make them the equivalent of whites
The south was always terrified of armed slaves

Slave soldiers have been rare, but far from unheard of in history.