Here is what I want to know from Democrats at USMB....

Why are you not supporting Bernie Sanders?

Hillary and Bill went on vacation with the Bush family! They are big buddies! Friends with Trump too!

In the 2008 primaries, Hillary was dumped for Obama because she was TOO CONSERVATIVE!

She voted for the Iraq War.
She opposed Saddam Hussein.
She said Iraq had WMDs!
She OPPOSED GAY MARRIAGE!

Yet SHE is your frontrunner and it seems everyone here is carrying the water for Hillary. I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything. She is up to her eyeballs in scandals and corruption and you people just keep right on defending her like she's some kind of fucking saint.

Meanwhile, Bernie is representative of WHO you are! His ideas and policies are what YOU advocate! His record as a left-wing ideologue is stellar.... it's even better than Obama's. He has a proven track record of standing up for what he believes in and doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth, while Hillary will pander to whatever crowd she is speaking to at the moment. She has never accomplished a thing, as a Senator, First Lady or Secretary of State. In fact, she has done nothing but FAIL at everything. There is nothing to show that she has affected any kind of positive change for any American.

Why do you support HER but not the guy who truly represents your core values?

I don't get it. :dunno:

This is a very odd post. Are you implying that Clinton is a "fake" Democrat because she has a friendship with people who happen to be Republicans? Because that is absolutely bizarre.

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Madaline is, Carville not so much.
 
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I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything.


democrats are able to support either of their candidates unlike republicans that have only offered poor and devicev choices.

the demo's have the luxury as the process proceeds to chose the better candidate that proves to have the best chance for victory in Nov..

Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie

So winning is more important than principles?
 
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I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything.


democrats are able to support either of their candidates unlike republicans that have only offered poor and devicev choices.

the demo's have the luxury as the process proceeds to chose the better candidate that proves to have the best chance for victory in Nov..

Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie

So winning is more important than principles?
Well if Republicans could run a far right candidate they would but since they can't win they run McCain and Romney.

I was worried about nominating a black. Didn't think he'd win. I was wrong.

But yes, electablity matters.
 
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I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything.


democrats are able to support either of their candidates unlike republicans that have only offered poor and devicev choices.

the demo's have the luxury as the process proceeds to chose the better candidate that proves to have the best chance for victory in Nov..

Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie

Oh my! These far left drones believe Sanders is a real "Liberal"..

Really! You can not make this stuff up!
Hillary is a corporate democrat. Economically only a little better than the Republicans. Socially she is much better than any Republican. Reproductive rights, gays, global warming, middle class, labor, welfare, infrastructure, regulations, epa, public schools, social security and so on

Global warming, she will side with corporations. Middle class, you still have not answered how Democrats differ. Labor, big corporations. Regulations, she will probably go less on regs, that is a good thing. EPA, depends on what her corporate base wants.

She is going to owe some corporations lots of favors, that is for sure.
 
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I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything.


democrats are able to support either of their candidates unlike republicans that have only offered poor and devicev choices.

the demo's have the luxury as the process proceeds to chose the better candidate that proves to have the best chance for victory in Nov..

Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie

So winning is more important than principles?
Well if Republicans could run a far right candidate they would but since they can't win they run McCain and Romney.

I was worried about nominating a black. Didn't think he'd win. I was wrong.

But yes, electablity matters.

So winning more important than principles, to you. Interesting.
 
Why are you not supporting Bernie Sanders?

Hillary and Bill went on vacation with the Bush family! They are big buddies! Friends with Trump too!

In the 2008 primaries, Hillary was dumped for Obama because she was TOO CONSERVATIVE!

She voted for the Iraq War.
She opposed Saddam Hussein.
She said Iraq had WMDs!
She OPPOSED GAY MARRIAGE!

Yet SHE is your frontrunner and it seems everyone here is carrying the water for Hillary. I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything. She is up to her eyeballs in scandals and corruption and you people just keep right on defending her like she's some kind of fucking saint.

Maybe because we see you guys have been attacking her and her family for the last 25 years and we are sickened by it.

Meanwhile, Bernie is representative of WHO you are! His ideas and policies are what YOU advocate! His record as a left-wing ideologue is stellar.... it's even better than Obama's. He has a proven track record of standing up for what he believes in and doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth, while Hillary will pander to whatever crowd she is speaking to at the moment. She has never accomplished a thing, as a Senator, First Lady or Secretary of State. In fact, she has done nothing but FAIL at everything. There is nothing to show that she has affected any kind of positive change for any American.

I think you are mising the point. A lot of Democrats aren't socialists, they just don't see the need for naked plutocracy your side supports. A lot of people dont like the fact Bernie is too friendly to the Death Merchants in the NRA. And some of realize America isn't ready for a European style social democracy, yet.

Bernie is not a Democrat, he's an independent. Hillary has paid her dues to the party. Just because your side has gone nuts and voted with your spleen doesn't mean we have to.
 
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democrats are able to support either of their candidates unlike republicans that have only offered poor and devicev choices.

the demo's have the luxury as the process proceeds to chose the better candidate that proves to have the best chance for victory in Nov..

Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie

Oh my! These far left drones believe Sanders is a real "Liberal"..

Really! You can not make this stuff up!
Hillary is a corporate democrat. Economically only a little better than the Republicans. Socially she is much better than any Republican. Reproductive rights, gays, global warming, middle class, labor, welfare, infrastructure, regulations, epa, public schools, social security and so on

Global warming, she will side with corporations. Middle class, you still have not answered how Democrats differ. Labor, big corporations. Regulations, she will probably go less on regs, that is a good thing. EPA, depends on what her corporate base wants.

She is going to owe some corporations lots of favors, that is for sure.
And this is any less true of the GOP? I say its even worse with Republicans.

All those things you say she'll do, are basically what the Republicans will do. And funny didn't Republicans say the Clinton's were lefty liberals? Were they lying?

I see through the right wing talking points. One minute you argue she's a dino the next she's a socialist. Which is it?
 
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I see no posts from Bernie's supporters attacking her or criticizing her on anything.


democrats are able to support either of their candidates unlike republicans that have only offered poor and devicev choices.

the demo's have the luxury as the process proceeds to chose the better candidate that proves to have the best chance for victory in Nov..

Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie
I think Bernie could win...especially against Trump

But I doubt if any of his wild plans would have a prayer with Congress
 
And some of realize America isn't ready for a European style social democracy, yet.

I think this statement reveals the true nature of the support for Hillary over Bernie. You Commies realize that you can't sell America on what you envision at this time, so it's better to elect a habitual liar who will deceive people into believing she is something else. Once you get her elected and installed, she can continue to march us in lockstep toward the socialist society you all want.
 
Sanders and Hillary are vastly different, Sanders is for the individuals, the people. Clinton is for big money, corporatism. That is like night and day. Are you more about winning or principles?
Bernie would be a better president but can he win? I think we should nominate a real liberal. I'm with bernie

Oh my! These far left drones believe Sanders is a real "Liberal"..

Really! You can not make this stuff up!
Hillary is a corporate democrat. Economically only a little better than the Republicans. Socially she is much better than any Republican. Reproductive rights, gays, global warming, middle class, labor, welfare, infrastructure, regulations, epa, public schools, social security and so on

Global warming, she will side with corporations. Middle class, you still have not answered how Democrats differ. Labor, big corporations. Regulations, she will probably go less on regs, that is a good thing. EPA, depends on what her corporate base wants.

She is going to owe some corporations lots of favors, that is for sure.
And this is any less true of the GOP? I say its even worse with Republicans.

All those things you say she'll do, are basically what the Republicans will do. And funny didn't Republicans say the Clinton's were lefty liberals? Were they lying?

I see through the right wing talking points. One minute you argue she's a dino the next she's a socialist. Which is it?

I have never said Hillary is a socialist. Again, you try to lump everyone into one group. I have always maintained Hillary is for Corporations at the expense of the middle class.

You still haven't told me what the Democrats have done for the middle class in the last few years.
 
And some of realize America isn't ready for a European style social democracy, yet.

I think this statement reveals the true nature of the support for Hillary over Bernie. You Commies realize that you can't sell America on what you envision at this time, so it's better to elect a habitual liar who will deceive people into believing she is something else. Once you get her elected and installed, she can continue to march us in lockstep toward the socialist society you all want.

NO, it's actually what i said. America is too stupid to have a social democracy. We're like the retards of the Industrialized world. IT would actually be a good thing for most Americans, but a lot of you are just plain old stupid and don't realize that.
 
You still haven't told me what the Democrats have done for the middle class in the last few years.

Let's see now.

Your insurance company can no longer deny you treatment for a "pre-existing condition".

Your Credit Card company can no longer gouge you with hidden fees.

Big banks can't screw over your kids on student loans.


Those are three biggies right there.

Since you really can't answer those, I look forward to your usual whining as i continue to occupy space in your head.
 
You still haven't told me what the Democrats have done for the middle class in the last few years.

Let's see now.

Your insurance company can no longer deny you treatment for a "pre-existing condition".

Your Credit Card company can no longer gouge you with hidden fees.

Big banks can't screw over your kids on student loans.


Those are three biggies right there.

Since you really can't answer those, I look forward to your usual whining as i continue to occupy space in your head.

Yes, your insurance company can deny paying for preexisting conditions. Trust me, mine did, and you can go to the Commie Care web site and they have an explanation right there.

Credit card companies were disallowed from charging late fees and increasing interest rates on their irresponsible borrowers who paid late or not at all. Credit card companies had to make that money back on other people, and those other people are the responsible borrowers.

Banks can't screw over your kids, but kids are screwing over our federal government by not paying on their loans.
 
Yes, your insurance company can deny paying for preexisting conditions. Trust me, mine did, and you can go to the Commie Care web site and they have an explanation right there.

Credit card companies were disallowed from charging late fees and increasing interest rates on their irresponsible borrowers who paid late or not at all. Credit card companies had to make that money back on other people, and those other people are the responsible borrowers.

Banks can't screw over your kids, but kids are screwing over our federal government by not paying on their loans.

thanks, Ray, you prove that Conservatism is like Stockholm Syndrome..... you are sympathizing with your abusers.
 
Yes, your insurance company can deny paying for preexisting conditions. Trust me, mine did, and you can go to the Commie Care web site and they have an explanation right there.

Credit card companies were disallowed from charging late fees and increasing interest rates on their irresponsible borrowers who paid late or not at all. Credit card companies had to make that money back on other people, and those other people are the responsible borrowers.

Banks can't screw over your kids, but kids are screwing over our federal government by not paying on their loans.

thanks, Ray, you prove that Conservatism is like Stockholm Syndrome..... you are sympathizing with your abusers.

Yeah, the only people abusing me are Democrats. That's why I want them as far away from leadership as I can.

I used credit cards my entire life. Until DumBama decided he knew better how to run banks than banks could, I never paid a transfer fee on a balance. Now I do, and it's a sizable one.

It's all politics. Irresponsible people generally vote Democrat while responsible people generally vote Republican. So DumBama figured a way to repay his voters while at the same time, passing the fees to his unlikely voters.
 
Yeah, the only people abusing me are Democrats. That's why I want them as far away from leadership as I can.

I used credit cards my entire life. Until DumBama decided he knew better how to run banks than banks could, I never paid a transfer fee on a balance. Now I do, and it's a sizable one.

It's all politics. Irresponsible people generally vote Democrat while responsible people generally vote Republican. So DumBama figured a way to repay his voters while at the same time, passing the fees to his unlikely voters.

Ray, if you are doing a lot of Credit Card Balance transfers, your finances must be all manner of fucked up.

But keep blaming the democrats for your unhappiness.

The banks are NOT YOUR FRIEND.
 
Yeah, the only people abusing me are Democrats. That's why I want them as far away from leadership as I can.

I used credit cards my entire life. Until DumBama decided he knew better how to run banks than banks could, I never paid a transfer fee on a balance. Now I do, and it's a sizable one.

It's all politics. Irresponsible people generally vote Democrat while responsible people generally vote Republican. So DumBama figured a way to repay his voters while at the same time, passing the fees to his unlikely voters.

Ray, if you are doing a lot of Credit Card Balance transfers, your finances must be all manner of fucked up.

But keep blaming the democrats for your unhappiness.

The banks are NOT YOUR FRIEND.

They are certainly more friendly than Democrats are to me.

It's called good financing Joe. I get 0% interest rates on my credit card balances. They are limited in time, so when the company starts charging me interest, I just switch to another credit card company.

My credit score is so high that I get dozens of offers from credit card companies every year. In most cases, I just switch back and forth between two or three accounts that I already have open when they make the 0% offer again. But again, thanks to DumBama, I now have to pay transfer fees so irresponsible people can get a break.

What you liberals don't understand is nothing is free. Oh, you may not pay for something, but somebody else has to. That's the liberal way.
 
Yes, your insurance company can deny paying for preexisting conditions. Trust me, mine did, and you can go to the Commie Care web site and they have an explanation right there.

Credit card companies were disallowed from charging late fees and increasing interest rates on their irresponsible borrowers who paid late or not at all. Credit card companies had to make that money back on other people, and those other people are the responsible borrowers.

Banks can't screw over your kids, but kids are screwing over our federal government by not paying on their loans.

thanks, Ray, you prove that Conservatism is like Stockholm Syndrome..... you are sympathizing with your abusers.

Yeah, the only people abusing me are Democrats. That's why I want them as far away from leadership as I can.

I used credit cards my entire life. Until DumBama decided he knew better how to run banks than banks could, I never paid a transfer fee on a balance. Now I do, and it's a sizable one.

It's all politics. Irresponsible people generally vote Democrat while responsible people generally vote Republican. So DumBama figured a way to repay his voters while at the same time, passing the fees to his unlikely voters.

Obama and company bail out banks, don't prosecute the banks or bankers. And then let them come after the middle class with all sorts of fees and taxes. Banks got Obama elected and Obama needed to pay them back.
 
They are certainly more friendly than Democrats are to me.

It's called good financing Joe. I get 0% interest rates on my credit card balances. They are limited in time, so when the company starts charging me interest, I just switch to another credit card company.

My credit score is so high that I get dozens of offers from credit card companies every year. In most cases, I just switch back and forth between two or three accounts that I already have open when they make the 0% offer again. But again, thanks to DumBama, I now have to pay transfer fees so irresponsible people can get a break.

What you liberals don't understand is nothing is free. Oh, you may not pay for something, but somebody else has to. That's the liberal way.

Or you could try not running up debts and not scamming the banks. It strikes me that the banks made a lot of money screwing poor people, were told they couldn't do that anymore, and decided to screw you instead.

Incidently, most banks I've seen do charge you to move balances, and that predates Obama.
 

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