Here's an issue that BOTH sides should agree on...but the right won't

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We are about to witness another convoluted, poorly planned, costly and ineffective HC proposal (note that I used he adjective "another" since the ACA was a major step in the right direction but also has many, many flaws.)

Now think back on the controversy when a bit more than a half century ago, LBJ signed into law Medicare.....It was labeled a socialistic monster and, today, virtually no US citizen, approaching retirement would dream of abolishing this valuable program (although the lack of dental coverage is a major flaw for seniors.)

Why has Medicare worked so damn well???....Simple,it is a plan that requires ALL workers to chip in through a payroll reduction......it requires contributions from the healthy and the not so healthy and requires contributions even when someone has already retired from the work force....

In essence, Medicare is a SINGLE-PAYER HC program that 52 years later has proven mostly successful and has helped millions and millions of our fellow citizens be healthier in their old age and avoided the bankruptcy that were so common before the program,

Somehow, however, many Americans would rather send a check to some private company whose purpose is to AVOID costly coverage payments and maximize its profits, RATHER than sending a check to the Federal government.....

Private health insurers (and big pharma and hospital conglomerates) spend MILLIONS to either bribe elected officials or propagandize that it is they who care for common Americans...and such strategies have worked extremely well since most republicans would STILL rather subsidize a HC company's CEO's private jet than be subjected to sending a check to a government that they've been bred to hate....

meanwhile, the rest of the civilized world laughs or shakes its head at our own stupidity.
 
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Somehow, however, many Americans would rather send a check to some private company whose purpose is to AVOID costly coverage payments and maximize its profits, RATHER than sending a check to the Federal government.....

Hell yea! Because sending a cheque to an insurance company is a voluntary act ... sending a cheque to the government isn't.
 
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So many issues are ignored while the Big Money is given to these corrupt people that we put into office.

1. The Emergency rooms are required by law to see anyone who comes in. People use it for a cold.. The bills are so high they are not paid...who pays for them? We Do

Jacked up prices where a bandage is $300.00

2. The big pharma poured in millions to fight against legalizing pot ..... The DEA passed the synthetic pill made by the pharmaceutical companies making billions on the drug now.

DEA OKs synthetic marijuana for pharma company that spent $500,000 to keep pot illegal

3. The congress pass laws for these pharmaceutical companies who then have the freedom to charge anything they want on on a $1.00 pill going up to $7,000 overnight.

4. It is illegal to buy a drug overseas which are less expensive

5. Doctors are bound by law to the FDA to only prescribe drugs approved by their corrupt agency.
The FDA and Big Pharma are in bed with each other, while congress is paid off to look the other way.

These dummies who think that government should stay out of our healthcare system do not realize that they already have their hands in it making their own rules while we pay for the Rich to get Richer..

The money spent to brainwash and lie to the American people is appalling..

McConnell is so corrupt he isn't even hiding anymore...
 
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Hell yea! Because sending a cheque to an insurance company is a voluntary act ... sending a cheque to the government isn't.

Oh, yeah, sure.....Its "voluntary" all right .....Try getting seriously sick AND having missed a payment ...THEN let us know how "compassionate" that insurance company is to you and your stupid naivete
 
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The intelligentsia of the Mods on this forum chose to move this thread to something called "Obamacare"....which shows not only how ignorant they can be but also how right leaning they are in not calling that topic by its real name ACA, and not the lame derision of Obamacare.
 
Hell yea! Because sending a cheque to an insurance company is a voluntary act ... sending a cheque to the government isn't.

Oh, yeah, sure.....Its "voluntary" all right .....Try getting seriously sick AND having missed a payment ...THEN let us know how "compassionate" that insurance company is to you and your stupid naivete

Insurance companies weren't created to be compassionate. Why on earth should we expect payouts when we don't pay out part?
 
Hell yea! Because sending a cheque to an insurance company is a voluntary act ... sending a cheque to the government isn't.

Oh, yeah, sure.....Its "voluntary" all right .....Try getting seriously sick AND having missed a payment ...THEN let us know how "compassionate" that insurance company is to you and your stupid naivete

I don't want compassion from companies with whom I do business. I want value for money. If I don't get that, I go in search of another company.

Every since the government forcibly insinuated itself in the mandatory insurance scheme, rates have skyrocketed across the board. Value for money has been replaced by politically motivated 'compassion'.

When I make a contract with a company and don't keep up my payments, I expect that contract to end. Just as I expect them to pay out according to the terms of the contract if I do make my payments.

But when I don't make payments to the government, there's a lot more at risk than my coverage. I can be fined, have my property seized, and can even be imprisoned for not keeping up my end of an agreement which I didn't willingly enter. How compassionate is that?
 
When I make a contract with a company and don't keep up my payments, I expect that contract to end. Just as I expect them to pay out according to the terms of the contract if I do make my payments.

Inane.........

If you're on Medicare, would the government stop payments for your cancer once it reaches a certain amount????

Should the government do THAT?

Conversely, does a private insurer place a maximum number on payouts for your cancer? Yes or No?
 
Hell yea! Because sending a cheque to an insurance company is a voluntary act ... sending a cheque to the government isn't.

Oh, yeah, sure.....Its "voluntary" all right .....Try getting seriously sick AND having missed a payment ...THEN let us know how "compassionate" that insurance company is to you and your stupid naivete

Actually, my experience with insurance companies has been the exact opposite of what so many have posted.

I once signed up with a very obvious pre-existing condition....and guess what....they covered it.

I've also had great luck with my insurance agent. Several times she has called us to review insurance and I walked out paying less.
 
The intelligentsia of the Mods on this forum chose to move this thread to something called "Obamacare"....which shows not only how ignorant they can be but also how right leaning they are in not calling that topic by its real name ACA, and not the lame derision of Obamacare.

Go whine to someone who cares if you live or die.
 
When I make a contract with a company and don't keep up my payments, I expect that contract to end. Just as I expect them to pay out according to the terms of the contract if I do make my payments.

Inane.........

If you're on Medicare, would the government stop payments for your cancer once it reaches a certain amount????

Should the government do THAT?

Conversely, does a private insurer place a maximum number on payouts for your cancer? Yes or No?

Because THAT is what I contracted for. That's how contracts work.
 
When I make a contract with a company and don't keep up my payments, I expect that contract to end. Just as I expect them to pay out according to the terms of the contract if I do make my payments.

Inane.........

If you're on Medicare, would the government stop payments for your cancer once it reaches a certain amount????

Should the government do THAT?

Conversely, does a private insurer place a maximum number on payouts for your cancer? Yes or No?

Because THAT is what I contracted for. That's how contracts work.

No one puts you in prison or steals your house for not making your insurance payment with ACA...haaa haaa

Now please do not get sick,because they will bleed you dry and leave you for the buzzards like road kill....once they gut pre-excisting
 
This thread is yet another testament to the OP's insanity...here's why....

He opens by saying the Federal gubbment needs to be involved in health care.
But think about this....
This same person CONSTANTLY posts irrate, irrational posts ABOUT the Federal Government and practically ALL Republicans, which has Donald J Trump as our ELECTED leader. So what then? He wants the government in control but ONLY if it's Democrats in control?

So tell me,...what is the OP saying (once again?)
He is saying that he is all for massive government control over everything...AS LONG AS.....the government shares HIS POV.
 
No one puts you in prison or steals your house for not making your insurance payment with ACA

If you don't make your payments, you can be fined. If you refuse to pay those fines, your property can be seized. If you don't have enough valuable property to cover the cost of the fines and penalties, you can be imprisoned. If you try to escape from prison, you can be shot. Don't believe me ... ask the IRS. Who, incidentally, are in charge of assessing and collecting ACA fines.

When an insurance company can have you killed for not making your payments, let me know.
 
No one puts you in prison or steals your house for not making your insurance payment with ACA

If you don't make your payments, you can be fined. If you refuse to pay those fines, your property can be seized. If you don't have enough valuable property to cover the cost of the fines and penalties, you can be imprisoned. If you try to escape from prison, you can be shot. Don't believe me ... ask the IRS. Who, incidentally, are in charge of assessing and collecting ACA fines.

When an insurance company can have you killed for not making your payments, let me know.

Time to go sit in a chemotherapy room for a reality check and see how the insurance companies kill people when they are too sick to work and miss a payment..
 
What the rest of the civilized world has successfully been able to accomplish regarding HC, our country CANNOT......Why?

Because our population is filled with MORONS and FOX watchers.
 
What the rest of the civilized world has successfully been able to accomplish

Civilised world?

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If Europe, where riots and terrorism are common occurrences, is your benchmark for civilisation... you might want to reconsider.

The European welfare state has brought the EU to the precipice and their massive social debts will ultimately be their undoing.
 

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