Hillary: Another Candidate With A Red Tint

[Slade3200]

English lesson:

com·mu·nism
ˈkämyəˌnizəm/
noun

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

What????

You require further lessons?????

What are you, a Liberal.


Start here:
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's cut to the chase:
Can you find anything in my posts that isn't true, accurate and correct?


No?

What conclusion should you draw from that?

people quit paying any attention you and your "truths" after you assured the world Keystone would pass without any problems, and then got stepped on like a worm.

so the conclusion I draw from THAT is simple. You're full of shit.

"....you assured the world Keystone would pass without any problems, and then got stepped on like a worm."


Now watch how easily I slice you up.


I never said any such thing.

You're lying.

Find any such quote of mine, or accept the the appellation 'low-life, lying Liberal.'




Waiting.

hold your breath while you wait, Ms. Pipeline.

So....when can I expect you to be changing your avi to " 'low-life, lying Liberal'?

Time is pressing.

you know, and I know we went round and round over Keystone ... you were 100% pro, I was 100% against.

don't fuck with me or I'll spend some time and prove it ... and I'm retired.


for a start ... more Ms Pipeline?


Umm, do USMB Republicans understand that the Keystone pipeline will only create 35 permanent jobs?

TD quips ..


You've missed my other posts then. Because I'm loaded for bear on this issue. It's become a passion because there is so much bullshit out there and if there is one thing I hate it's lies and deceit. Sets me clean off.

How's this link for a rosy picture with this organization extolling the virtues of the Keystone pipelines and TransCanada?

I don't think that TransCanada could ask for a better letter of recommendation eh?

Media Note
Office of the Spokesman
Washington, DC
March 14, 2008


Keystone Pipeline Presidential Permit
On March 14, the Department of State issued a Presidential Permit authorizing TransCanada Keystone Pipeline LP to construct, operate and maintain facilities related to the Keystone crude oil pipeline project.

The Keystone pipeline will extend 1,300 miles from the Canadian border through the U.S. Midwest. When fully operational, the Keystone pipeline is anticipated to increase U.S. oil imports from Canada by an amount equivalent to as much as 4.5 percent of total U.S. daily imports.

Canada is the United States' largest supplier of oil, natural gas, and electricity.

The Department has determined that issuance of the permit to TransCanada Keystone Pipeline LP is in the national interest, in part, because it increases U.S. market access to crude oil supplies from a stable and reliable trading partner, Canada, that is in close proximity to the United States.


Canadian oil represents a safe, secure supply for the North American market.

In 2004, Canada became the largest supplier of crude oil to the United States. In 2006, Canada supplied the United States with 2.3 million barrels of oil per day (mbd), equivalent to 17% of total U.S. imports.

The permit was signed in the State Department’s Treaty Room by the Undersecretary of State for Economics, Energy and Agriculture Affairs, Reuben Jeffery III, who also serves as the Department’s International Energy Coordinator. Canadian Ambassador Michael Wilson witnessed the signature.

The United States and Canada have a wide array of bilateral and multilateral mechanisms to discuss energy and the environment, and will continue to address the importance of mitigating greenhouse gases from all sources of energy production.

Prior to making its determination to issue the permit to TransCanada Keystone Pipeline LP, the Department completed an environmental review of the entire project.

All public documents related to the Department’s decision regarding TransCanada Keystone LP’s application can be downloaded atwww.keystonepipeline.state.gov.

2008/192

Released on March 14, 2008

U.S. Department of State

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And when he comes to call, my pa ain't got a good word to say
Guess it's 'cause he's just as wild in his younger days
So blow, you old blue northern, blow my love to me
He's driving in tonight from California
He loves his damned old rodeo as much as he loves me
Someday soon, going with him someday soon Thanks Sylvia. I know you wrote the words.

Let me continue to slowly roast you on this spit.....

"....you assured the world Keystone would pass without any problems, and then got stepped on like a worm."


I never said any such thing.
Never.

You're lying.

Find any such quote of mine, or accept the the appellation 'low-life, lying Liberal.'


And....as you roast....let me rub it in further, with this edification:

Now, you know that I'm only here to educate you, to help you be a better person.

There must be many times when you ask yourself why you accept and promulgate totalitarian doctrine, and fight against liberty and freedom for all.


You might benefit from a consideration of Romans, 7:16-18

16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good.

17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.


That's you....isn't it!

To a "T"!!!


a. And....there is actually a necessity for lying.....if one is a Liberal. Without lying, a Liberal would be forced to simply admit at their views might be wrong, or dangerous to those who fall under its control, or that winning is all that matters, no matter the results of winning.

ObamaCare

Support for abortion

Open borders



Still waiting for you to provide any quote of mine as "....you assured the world Keystone would pass without any problems, and then got stepped on like a worm."

Turns out you're the worm, huh, "low life lying Liberal."

 

[PoliticalChic]

if your beliefs don't include any notions that everyone else is required to believe the same or else suffer some kind of punishment, then you're probably not going to have any conflicts with anyone. in that respect, both islam and communism are probably the worst things americans can get involved with.

And both require submission.

 

[PoliticalChic]

English lesson:

com·mu·nism
ˈkämyəˌnizəm/
noun

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

What????

You require further lessons?????

What are you, a Liberal.


Start here:
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

 

[Slade3200]

English lesson:

com·mu·nism
ˈkämyəˌnizəm/
noun

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

What????

You require further lessons?????

What are you, a Liberal.


Start here:
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

English lesson:

com·mu·nism
ˈkämyəˌnizəm/
noun

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

What????

You require further lessons?????

What are you, a Liberal.


Start here:
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

 

[Slade3200]

English lesson:

com·mu·nism
ˈkämyəˌnizəm/
noun

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

What????

You require further lessons?????

What are you, a Liberal.


Start here:
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

Neither has changed their position In regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

 

[PoliticalChic]

7."Across the land, hundreds, no doubt thousands, of court cases are being levied by religious Americans, of all faiths, who seek to freely exercise their religion. In the cataract of cases arising out of the struggle for gay and lesbian, bisexual, and transgender Americans for equal rights, Mrs. Clinton has played no useful role in seeking ways to accommodate religious Americans. In our view, it’s a tragedy for both sides.

In some of the religious freedom cases, finally, the courts were able to conclude with broad agreement in favor of the religious parties. In Hosanna-Tabor, the Supreme Court was unanimous, as in nine to zero. As it was in Pastor Reed’s campaign against his church’s signage. Even then, Mrs. Clinton was off the field.

.... her claim to be a champion of religious freedom is not credible.

The sad truth is that religious freedom is a cause with few allies in the Democratic Party leadership." Clinton’s Religious Freedom - The New York Sun


Bill's wife....a champion of religious freedom???


Not hardly.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What????

You require further lessons?????

What are you, a Liberal.


Start here:
Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


Does that neon light flashing IDIOT over your head keep you awake at night?

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

Neither has changed their position I. Regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

 

[Slade3200]

7."Across the land, hundreds, no doubt thousands, of court cases are being levied by religious Americans, of all faiths, who seek to freely exercise their religion. In the cataract of cases arising out of the struggle for gay and lesbian, bisexual, and transgender Americans for equal rights, Mrs. Clinton has played no useful role in seeking ways to accommodate religious Americans. In our view, it’s a tragedy for both sides.

In some of the religious freedom cases, finally, the courts were able to conclude with broad agreement in favor of the religious parties. In Hosanna-Tabor, the Supreme Court was unanimous, as in nine to zero. As it was in Pastor Reed’s campaign against his church’s signage. Even then, Mrs. Clinton was off the field.

.... her claim to be a champion of religious freedom is not credible.

The sad truth is that religious freedom is a cause with few allies in the Democratic Party leadership." Clinton’s Religious Freedom - The New York Sun


Bill's wife....a champion of religious freedom???


Not hardly.

Ok, I guess we can pivot to this topic since your dodging the liberal-communism fantasy.

The Democratic Party and most liberals will not support religious acts that contradict the law or efforts for human rights and equality. Religious freedom is wide open just like the freedom of speech as long as it doesn't cause harm, discriminate or violate another's rights.

You spin it to be an oppression of religion when the flip side see the religious acts in question as an oppression of our individual rights.

Either way both sides can make the same arguement.

 

[Slade3200]

So you're point is that because Liberal policy doesn't defend religion or give individuals the right to do whatever they want to do then it is communism? and you are calling me a moron??

What a joke! Do I really need to waste my time explaining how this is very wrong? It seems completely obvious...

Liberal/Progressiveness abolished slavery, brought the civil rights movement, gave women the right to vote, fights for equal rights and justice for minorities... It protects and stands up for the individuals that don't have a strong voice, or tremendous power, or a vast amount of wealth... It protects our environment, takes care of our poor, veterans, and elderly...

In America democrats and liberal policy support small business growth, entrepreneurship, and the workers... They try to protect them from getting swallowed up by big business. It's policies lie within a capitalistic society no where near complete government control or communist ideals... You are on crack.

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

Neither has changed their position I. Regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

Let's try an easy one for you and see if you can be honest... Which party led abolishing slavery and which party led the civil rights movement?

 

[owebo]

Gads, you're a fool.

It was Republicans who abolished slavery, and brought women the right to vote.
Democrats fought both.

And as for minorities.....when you get that library care, check out what the Democrat Liberal demigod, Franklin Roosevelt said about Jews, Asians and blacks.

1. Franklin Roosevelt clearly followed in the racist footsteps of Theodore Roosevelt, seeing fit to raise KKK'er Hugo Black, who said form the court, ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap,” to the Supreme Court.

Now that we've learned of FDR's anti-black bigotry....let's move on to the next race he oppressed.....

Whether politically expedient, or simply boilerplate racism, Roosevelt had American citizens of Japanese origin, thrown into concentration camps.....with no evidence of disloyalty on their part. Over 110,000 Japanese were sent to the camps....althoughthe same fate did not befall Americans of German or Italian origin.



a. "Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters. On Feb. 19, 1942, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066, authorizing the military to remove anyone from any area of the country, if deemed necessary for national security.
During the months that followed, more than 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up throughout California and shipped to internment camps in Arizona, Wyoming, Arkansas, and elsewhere. Fred Korematsu, a resident of San Leandro, on the San Francisco Bay, resisted deportation and was arrested, setting in motion a legal struggle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. " FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews




b. "In 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians. Its finalreport, titled Personal Justice Denied, concluded that the internment was motivated by “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership,” ....
Ibid.


Seems that neither black nor yellow were among Franklin Roosevelt's favorite colors....




2. Not all the malevolence of Roosevelt involved black or yellow folks...some had to do with whites, too...


"...Roosevelt’s most despicable statements about Jews, extensively documented in a series of on-line commentaries by Rafael Medoff, ...did the depths of Roosevelt’s loathing for Jews, and refusal to lift a finger ... to rescue them, fully penetrate.


As far back as 1920, when FDR was the Democratic party candidate for vice president, he had proposed that “the greater part of the foreign population of the City of New York” should be “distributed to different localities upstate” so as to feel pressure to “conform to the manners and customs and requirements of their new home.”As a member of the Harvard board of directors he supported a Jewish admissions quota.


In 1941 he told his Cabinet that too many Jews were federal employees in Oregon.

One of his grandsons recalled that the protagonists in FDR’s jokes “were always Lower East Side Jews with heavy accents.”


At a wartime White House luncheon with Prime Minister Churchill, he suggested “the best way to settle the Jewish question”was “to spread the Jews thin all over the world.”

At the 1945 Yalta conference, FDR indicated to Stalin that as a concession to the king of Saudi Arabia he would “give him the six million Jews in the United States.”Betrayal: FDR and the Jews


Kinda got Jewish Liberals prepared to support a President who is all about throwing Israel under the bus.....
...but, heck......

....as long as he is a Democrat.



It's laughable to attempt to argue that Franklin Roosevelt was an exemplary President for the United States, as it was created by the Founders.

No, the only arguable positions are, was he a benevolent dictator, or a megalomaniacal fascist, who yearned for the powers of the men he most admired...Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.



3. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



4 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

Neither has changed their position I. Regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

Let's try an easy one for you and see if you can be honest... Which party led abolishing slavery and which party led the civil rights movement?

The party that didn't elect this racist....

Any other questions?

 

[Slade3200]

View attachment 85678

We were talking about Liberal/Progressive policy vs. Conservative... I don't give a shit what party was responsible back then, the parties are completely different today than they were back then. You know that, but nice try.

I like many Conservative principles, don't think it has to be one or the other.

As for your FDR rant, I don't see what that has to do with this discussion, I don't know nor do I care what his views were on Jews, if he was a bigot then shame on him, makes no difference to me. We are talking about the ridiculous point your OP was trying to make that Clinton and Liberals in the US are communists.

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

Neither has changed their position I. Regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

Let's try an easy one for you and see if you can be honest... Which party led abolishing slavery and which party led the civil rights movement?

The party that didn't elect this racist....

Any other questions?

Yes, are able to provide a real answer? Vague statements and a picture don't progress the conversation

 

[owebo]

View attachment 85678

You can run, but you can't hide.

There are only two major parties: Democrat and Republican.


Nether has changed it's position.

You are as dumb as asphalt...and will remain so for your entire existence.

Neither has changed their position I. Regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

Let's try an easy one for you and see if you can be honest... Which party led abolishing slavery and which party led the civil rights movement?

The party that didn't elect this racist....

Any other questions?

Yes, are able to provide a real answer? Vague statements and a picture don't progress the conversation

Which part that you support are you having trouble with little girl.....

 

[Slade3200]

View attachment 85678

Neither has changed their position I. Regards to what? If you are going to be insulting then at least be specific.

I'll restate that the discussion is about liberal vs conservative not dems and Rs. Keep scrabbling though, your hole is only getting deeper

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

Let's try an easy one for you and see if you can be honest... Which party led abolishing slavery and which party led the civil rights movement?

The party that didn't elect this racist....

Any other questions?

Yes, are able to provide a real answer? Vague statements and a picture don't progress the conversation

Which part that you support are you having trouble with little girl.....

You question for starters, makes no sense

 

[owebo]

View attachment 85678

Stop lyin.'

The only two choices are Democrat and Republican.


Bill's wife is the Democrat candidate.

And the Democrat position vis-a-vis blacks is the same as it always has been...but they've convinced the lame-brained otherwise.
Raise your paw.


Bill 'the rapist' Clinton has always been a racist, throughout his entire political life.

And....just as I proved everything I've posted....to your chagrin....I can prove this.

Let's try an easy one for you and see if you can be honest... Which party led abolishing slavery and which party led the civil rights movement?

The party that didn't elect this racist....

Any other questions?

Yes, are able to provide a real answer? Vague statements and a picture don't progress the conversation

Which part that you support are you having trouble with little girl.....

You question for starters, makes no sense

Obama is giving away on-line degrees....try one, it can't hurt....

 

[Moonglow]

In this thread, a reminder that any who vote Democrat have been manipulated into accepting, endorsing, and advancing the same worldview as Soviet Communists.

Such individuals will find it impossible to deny any of the facts that I am about to reveal.
Liberalism is a spin-off of the Soviet Communist political philosophy, and the current Democrat candidate for President exhibits a central view concomitant with earlier Bolsheviks.....



.....a jaundiced view of religion.
Any difference from that of earlier communists is one of degree....never of kind.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.

2. Christianity was fundamentally incompatible with Communism....the contest between the scientific materialism of the new communist state and the enduring faith of much of the Soviet Union's population.
Lenin was implacably opposed to all religious sentiment, as was Marx. 'Any religious idea,' he wrote to Maxim Gorky in 1913, ...is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful "infection." "The Dictators," by Richard Overy, p. 270.


January 28, 1918, the Russian Orthodox Church was formally separated from the state;....Religious property was liquidated and a twenty year program of church closures began. Religion was banned from schools. The state and the party were officially atheist.....



3. Who can forget the Democrat Convention of 2012, at which 'God' was booed...






4. "The idea that Hillary Clinton would serve as a champion of religious freedom is being met with skepticism....

.....an op-ed piece the Democratic nominee herself wrote for the Deseret News, asserting that she’s been “fighting to defend religious freedom for years.” She boasts of her work overseas, but the author of the National Review piece, Alexandra DeSanctis, reckons that because Mrs. Clinton has “made no effort to defend religious freedom here in the U.S.” her claim “rings hollow.”

a. It’s hard to think of a single religious freedom case working its way through the courts here in America in which Mrs. Clinton is on the side of the religious parties."
Clinton’s Religious Freedom - The New York Sun




In short....vote Democrat, and you stand against the very doctrines on which this nation was established.

Because the left controls the media they can cause chaos and destruction everywhere they go and never be blamed for it. Now why would they want to cause this? Because causing hardship for your voters isn't damaging to their political aspirations like it used to be. A dishonest press isn't the check on corruption it used to be. So Democrats can do whatever they want and the media never blames them for any of it. Democrats want us to lose everything we have. That way they can tell us what to do using fear tactics.

GE and Comcast are leftist corporations?

 

[Moonglow]

if your beliefs don't include any notions that everyone else is required to believe the same or else suffer some kind of punishment, then you're probably not going to have any conflicts with anyone. in that respect, both islam and communism are probably the worst things americans can get involved with.

Just think of the old days when all you had to worry about was drug usage...

 

[Moonglow]

Ronald Reagan, oh yeah, that guy that slept through his second term.....Will you all ever make up your mind about how the rich use their money? I don't care why do you? Berkshire Hathaway just gave me a refund on my escrow account for the mortgage, taxes and insurance...Surly they should have kept it for political purposes..

unless one doesn't have an escrow and keeps their money to make money. hahahahhahahaaha.

Normally a mortgage has an escrow attached...

 

[PoliticalChic]

In this thread, a reminder that any who vote Democrat have been manipulated into accepting, endorsing, and advancing the same worldview as Soviet Communists.

Such individuals will find it impossible to deny any of the facts that I am about to reveal.
Liberalism is a spin-off of the Soviet Communist political philosophy, and the current Democrat candidate for President exhibits a central view concomitant with earlier Bolsheviks.....



.....a jaundiced view of religion.
Any difference from that of earlier communists is one of degree....never of kind.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.

2. Christianity was fundamentally incompatible with Communism....the contest between the scientific materialism of the new communist state and the enduring faith of much of the Soviet Union's population.
Lenin was implacably opposed to all religious sentiment, as was Marx. 'Any religious idea,' he wrote to Maxim Gorky in 1913, ...is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful "infection." "The Dictators," by Richard Overy, p. 270.


January 28, 1918, the Russian Orthodox Church was formally separated from the state;....Religious property was liquidated and a twenty year program of church closures began. Religion was banned from schools. The state and the party were officially atheist.....



3. Who can forget the Democrat Convention of 2012, at which 'God' was booed...






4. "The idea that Hillary Clinton would serve as a champion of religious freedom is being met with skepticism....

.....an op-ed piece the Democratic nominee herself wrote for the Deseret News, asserting that she’s been “fighting to defend religious freedom for years.” She boasts of her work overseas, but the author of the National Review piece, Alexandra DeSanctis, reckons that because Mrs. Clinton has “made no effort to defend religious freedom here in the U.S.” her claim “rings hollow.”

a. It’s hard to think of a single religious freedom case working its way through the courts here in America in which Mrs. Clinton is on the side of the religious parties."
Clinton’s Religious Freedom - The New York Sun




In short....vote Democrat, and you stand against the very doctrines on which this nation was established.

Because the left controls the media they can cause chaos and destruction everywhere they go and never be blamed for it. Now why would they want to cause this? Because causing hardship for your voters isn't damaging to their political aspirations like it used to be. A dishonest press isn't the check on corruption it used to be. So Democrats can do whatever they want and the media never blames them for any of it. Democrats want us to lose everything we have. That way they can tell us what to do using fear tactics.

GE and Comcast are leftist corporations?

Guess who owns 49% of MSNBC, you dunce.