Hillary Clinton to Present Health Care Plan

[g5000]

First, a refresher on the 1993 health care reform which was labeled "HillaryCare" due to Clinton being a big advocate for it.

The Clinton health plan required each US citizen and permanent resident alien to become enrolled in a qualified health plan and forbade their disenrollment until covered by another plan. It listed minimum coverages and maximum annual out-of-pocket expenses for each plan. It proposed the establishment of corporate "regional alliances" of health providers to be subject to a fee-for-service schedule. People below a certain set income level were to pay nothing. The act listed funding to be sent to the states for the administration of this plan, beginning at $13.5 billion in 1993 and reaching $38.3 billion in 2003.

The mandatory insurance requirement originated in 1989 at the right wing Heritage Foundation: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf

Now the present day: Hillary Clinton to Present Health Care Plan

Hillary Rodham Clinton will present on Tuesday a multipart plan to decrease the cost of prescription medication, as part of a series of campaign events this week devoted to health care policy and how she plans to “build on the progress” made under the Affordable Care Act.

The prescription drug plan, which Mrs. Clinton will outline at a town hall event in Des Moines, includes regulating the percentage of revenues pharmaceutical companies must spend on research and development, instituting a cap on the cost of many out-of-pocket drugs for chronic and serious health conditions, and allocating additional funding to put more generic versions of drugs on the market.

More to come:

On Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton is expected to present a plan to rein in the cost of nonpharmaceutical health care expenses.

In the news two days ago:
Drug Goes From $13.50 a Tablet to $750, Overnight

A company that makes a drug that has been around for 62 years is bought by a hedge fund manager, and the next thing you know, the cost increases by more than 5,000%!

This is not the first time the 32-year-old Mr. Shkreli, who has a reputation for both brilliance and brashness, has been the center of controversy. He started MSMB Capital, a hedge fund company, in his 20s and drew attention for urging the Food and Drug Administration not to approve certain drugs made by companies whose stock he was shorting.

Discuss.

 

[The Rabbi]

You're an idiot. I;m not certain whether it was an at-birth sort of thing or whether you suffered a head injury. We cant rule out drug usage either. But your post proves it. Stringing together a bunch of half facts, half truths and out of date information and somehow somewhere it means "something."

 

[g5000]

You're an idiot. I;m not certain whether it was an at-birth sort of thing or whether you suffered a head injury. We cant rule out drug usage either. But your post proves it. Stringing together a bunch of half facts, half truths and out of date information and somehow somewhere it means "something."

If any of the links are lying, prove it. You are going to have to do a lot better than, "Nuh uh!"

 

[ScienceRocks]

You're an idiot. I;m not certain whether it was an at-birth sort of thing or whether you suffered a head injury. We cant rule out drug usage either. But your post proves it. Stringing together a bunch of half facts, half truths and out of date information and somehow somewhere it means "something."

Look who's talking. The one that kisses the rich mans ass over the other 99% of America.

 

[g5000]

Since most of my links had to do with the fact Hillary is rolling out a health care plan in a couple days, which is not something that can be disputed, I am guessing Rabbi is butt hurt over the fact the Heritage Foundation originated the individual insurance mandate.

I provided irrefutable evidence. The actual document.

Precisely the very same "logic" used by the Democrats in support of the individual mandate.

Hell, Wolf Blitzer practically used this bit verbatim!

 

[Obiwan]

First, a refresher on the 1993 health care reform which was labeled "HillaryCare" due to Clinton being a big advocate for it.

The Clinton health plan required each US citizen and permanent resident alien to become enrolled in a qualified health plan and forbade their disenrollment until covered by another plan. It listed minimum coverages and maximum annual out-of-pocket expenses for each plan. It proposed the establishment of corporate "regional alliances" of health providers to be subject to a fee-for-service schedule. People below a certain set income level were to pay nothing. The act listed funding to be sent to the states for the administration of this plan, beginning at $13.5 billion in 1993 and reaching $38.3 billion in 2003.

The mandatory insurance requirement originated in 1989 at the right wing Heritage Foundation: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf

Now the present day: Hillary Clinton to Present Health Care Plan

Hillary Rodham Clinton will present on Tuesday a multipart plan to decrease the cost of prescription medication, as part of a series of campaign events this week devoted to health care policy and how she plans to “build on the progress” made under the Affordable Care Act.

The prescription drug plan, which Mrs. Clinton will outline at a town hall event in Des Moines, includes regulating the percentage of revenues pharmaceutical companies must spend on research and development, instituting a cap on the cost of many out-of-pocket drugs for chronic and serious health conditions, and allocating additional funding to put more generic versions of drugs on the market.

More to come:

On Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton is expected to present a plan to rein in the cost of nonpharmaceutical health care expenses.

In the news two days ago:
Drug Goes From $13.50 a Tablet to $750, Overnight

A company that makes a drug that has been around for 62 years is bought by a hedge fund manager, and the next thing you know, the cost increases by more than 5,000%!

This is not the first time the 32-year-old Mr. Shkreli, who has a reputation for both brilliance and brashness, has been the center of controversy. He started MSMB Capital, a hedge fund company, in his 20s and drew attention for urging the Food and Drug Administration not to approve certain drugs made by companies whose stock he was shorting.

Discuss.

Obozocare failed???

 

[David_42]

Sounds like a good plan, will wait for further development. Better then doing nothing like the GOP wants.

 

[g5000]

Obozocare failed???

Nope. It's still here.

ObamaCare needs a lot of fixes. Just like RomneyCare did.

A few years after RomneyCare was enacted, 75 percent of the citizens of Massachusetts wanted to keep it around, even though 60 percent said it needed fixing.

The same will be true of ObamaCare. Like it or hate it (I hate it), it is here to stay.

It's funny that Romney enacted an individual mandate. Right wingers call that a violation of the Constitution these days, and yet they selected Romney as their candidate for President!

Positively schizophrenic.

 

[Obiwan]

Obozocare failed???

Nope. It's still here.

ObamaCare needs a lot of fixes. Just like RomneyCare did.

A few years after RomneyCare was enacted, 75 percent of the citizens of Massachusetts wanted to keep it around, even though 60 percent said it needed fixing.

The same will be true of ObamaCare. Like it or hate it (I hate it), it is here to stay.

It's funny that Romney enacted an individual mandate. Right wingers call that a violation of the Constitution these days, and yet they selected Romney as their candidate for President!

Positively schizophrenic.

Damn...

If Obozocare is fucked up, looks like they should have read it before they passed it!!!

Typical Lib lunacy...

 

[David_42]

Obozocare failed???

Nope. It's still here.

ObamaCare needs a lot of fixes. Just like RomneyCare did.

A few years after RomneyCare was enacted, 75 percent of the citizens of Massachusetts wanted to keep it around, even though 60 percent said it needed fixing.

The same will be true of ObamaCare. Like it or hate it (I hate it), it is here to stay.

It's funny that Romney enacted an individual mandate. Right wingers call that a violation of the Constitution these days, and yet they selected Romney as their candidate for President!

Positively schizophrenic.

Damn...

If Obozocare is fucked up, looks like they should have read it before they passed it!!!

Typical Lib lunacy...

They DID read it.
Text of H.R. 3590 (111th): Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Passed Congress/Enrolled Bill version) - GovTrack.us

 

[g5000]

Sounds like a good plan, will wait for further development. Better then doing nothing like the GOP wants.

Like a petulant child, the GOP would rather not fix the things that need fixing in the ACA.

They prefer to force one constitutional crisis after another.

 

[ScienceRocks]

g5000

The right hasn't selected anything other since Goldwater! Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million people and supported abortion as governor. So he wouldn't be considered today by these people.

The loserterian element is loud but they don't make up the majority of the party.

Everything is unconstitutional to these idiots.Weird, how they bring this up everytime we try to help the poor and the middle class.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Medicare and Medicaid being able to negotiate drug prices would be a good thing, no?

Any aspect of health care that has a profit motive behind it is wrong at the core. Health care ought to be a non profit enterprise from start to finish.

 

[David_42]

Sounds like a good plan, will wait for further development. Better then doing nothing like the GOP wants.

Like a petulant child, the GOP would rather not fix the things that need fixing in the ACA.

They prefer to force one constitutional crisis after another.

I think we can both agree the GOP of the old days needs to return.

 

[g5000]

Obozocare failed???

Nope. It's still here.

ObamaCare needs a lot of fixes. Just like RomneyCare did.

A few years after RomneyCare was enacted, 75 percent of the citizens of Massachusetts wanted to keep it around, even though 60 percent said it needed fixing.

The same will be true of ObamaCare. Like it or hate it (I hate it), it is here to stay.

It's funny that Romney enacted an individual mandate. Right wingers call that a violation of the Constitution these days, and yet they selected Romney as their candidate for President!

Positively schizophrenic.

Damn...

If Obozocare is fucked up, looks like they should have read it before they passed it!!!

Typical Lib lunacy...

So I guess the Republican Congress should have read their balanced budget act before they passed it since it has required several "doc fixes" over the years, eh?

Every comprehensive law has consequences which cannot be foreseen.

 

[g5000]

The thing about writing laws is that there are frequently unintended consequences of the laws. And clever people are very good at finding loopholes in the laws. And so they frequently require fixes to be subsequently written. This is what Pelosi meant by "we have to pass it to see what's in it." This is true for nearly every law.

Usually, there is bipartisan cooperation on these fixes. There is often a lot of horse trading over the fixes, but they get done. In fact, as of June, there have been 17 bipartisan legislative fixes made to the ACA already. But they were all low profile fixes. And I bet most of the rubes here didn't know there have been 17 fixes passed by Congress and signed by Obama already.

But high profile fixes which the GOP can play politics with don't get passed. They create a constitutional crisis instead. The subsidy fix and the employer mandate fix could both have easily accomplished with just a few written words by Congress. But nooooooo...let's play games instead!

 

[Obiwan]

Obozocare failed???

Nope. It's still here.

ObamaCare needs a lot of fixes. Just like RomneyCare did.

A few years after RomneyCare was enacted, 75 percent of the citizens of Massachusetts wanted to keep it around, even though 60 percent said it needed fixing.

The same will be true of ObamaCare. Like it or hate it (I hate it), it is here to stay.

It's funny that Romney enacted an individual mandate. Right wingers call that a violation of the Constitution these days, and yet they selected Romney as their candidate for President!

Positively schizophrenic.

Damn...

If Obozocare is fucked up, looks like they should have read it before they passed it!!!

Typical Lib lunacy...

So I guess the Republican Congress should have read their balanced budget act before they passed it since it has required several "doc fixes" over the years, eh?

Every comprehensive law has consequences which cannot be foreseen.

But Obozo vetoes everything...

Fuck, he just wants to let people die, right???

 

[David_42]

Obozocare failed???

Nope. It's still here.

ObamaCare needs a lot of fixes. Just like RomneyCare did.

A few years after RomneyCare was enacted, 75 percent of the citizens of Massachusetts wanted to keep it around, even though 60 percent said it needed fixing.

The same will be true of ObamaCare. Like it or hate it (I hate it), it is here to stay.

It's funny that Romney enacted an individual mandate. Right wingers call that a violation of the Constitution these days, and yet they selected Romney as their candidate for President!

Positively schizophrenic.

Damn...

If Obozocare is fucked up, looks like they should have read it before they passed it!!!

Typical Lib lunacy...

So I guess the Republican Congress should have read their balanced budget act before they passed it since it has required several "doc fixes" over the years, eh?

Every comprehensive law has consequences which cannot be foreseen.

But Obozo vetoes everything...

Fuck, he just wants to let people die, right???

What are you talking about? U.S. Senate: President Veto Counts

 

[Buzz Jenkins]

I wonder if it will be like that ungodly debacle she had back when Bill let her have a go at it. Remember that stupid health card Bill was waiving around during his address from the Oval Office?

 

[B. Kidd]

Call it Hill-Beast Care 2.0.........