Hillary says NRA needs a "rival" organization of responsible gun owners

Want to attract right wingers to a thread like moths to a flame?????

Write a post about guns......and all the cowboys on the right will rush to that thread trying to show off their prowess and "knowledge" about various deadly weapons.

It NEVER fails........LOL

The exact same can be said of the left with regard to abortion. The difference: one has supporters who believe in the choice to defend against a “criminal” on a rampage, while the other believes in the choice to kill another unable to defend themselves.
 
Want to attract right wingers to a thread like moths to a flame?????


Write a post about guns......and all the cowboys on the right will rush to that thread trying to show off their prowess and "knowledge" about various deadly weapons.

It NEVER fails........LOL
/—-/ Want to attract libtards? Post Abortion is murder. Works like a charm.

Liberals are so predictable, aren’t they ? LOL
 
The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.


Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

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Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.
/—-/ Please site the Federalist Papers where the FF State their intentions on this. TIA


You think they did intend a bloodbath of innocents?
/—-/ Since there were crazy psychotic killers in the 1770s I’m sure they did consider it and knew they could be stopped with another gun.

10 mass shootings so far this year in the US with 112 dead and 531 wounded. How many in the 1770s?
/——/ there were mass killings everywhere using all sorts of weapons mostly against the Indians. What’s your point Sparky?
 
Want to attract right wingers to a thread like moths to a flame?????

Write a post about guns......and all the cowboys on the right will rush to that thread trying to show off their prowess and "knowledge" about various deadly weapons.

It NEVER fails........LOL


Yeah.......except no. I have been through a lot of these threads and you just aren't even close to being accurate....
 
I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby


Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The only ones that don't want background checks are the ones that couldn't pass one.

90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

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They're going to have to ban military assault type weapons also. This is getting to be too much--all they're used for is people killers.

No...this is a lie that you guys keep telling ....

The people who answer this question don't know anything about background checks in this country, how about asking them if we have them or not...start there. Then, ask them if they want to have to register their guns with the government, even though all of the countries that have done that end up confiscating and banning them.

Then ask them how many mass public shooters failed a background check to get their guns...

This is why we don't trust you...you lie to the uninformed to get them to sign on to give you power to take guns....
 
Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.


The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.


Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

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Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

See....you just show over and over that you don't know anything about guns or gun issues......there are few people in this country who actually own an automatic weapon......the over 13 million AR-15 civilian rifles in this country are not military weapons and they aren't automatic....

please...do some basic fucking research....

And had the Founding fathers known what mass murderers the left wing socialists would be over the last 100 years, with close to or over 100 million murdered men, women and children, they would have mandated that every American home actually have military weapons.......and likely would have disarmed the military....
 
I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby
I don't see a left leaning true rival to the NRA as possible because twice as many gun owners are republicans as democrats. Furthermore, dedicated owners who own multiple guns are 4 times more likely to vote republican. Easy access to firearms vs government controlled access is a basic difference between the parties and that's not likely to change. So American will continue to lead the world in firearms deaths and will always be considered a violent society.


No, actually, we don't lead the world in firearm deaths...we are around 111....but thanks for getting that wrong.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal who rape, rob and murder innocent people......and yet......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.


Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

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Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.
/—-/ Please site the Federalist Papers where the FF State their intentions on this. TIA


You think they did intend a bloodbath of innocents?
/—-/ Since there were crazy psychotic killers in the 1770s I’m sure they did consider it and knew they could be stopped with another gun.

10 mass shootings so far this year in the US with 112 dead and 531 wounded. How many in the 1770s?


And all of them happened in gun free zones....while the one where we had an NRA instructor with an AR-15 civilian rifle...saved 26 lives and likely even more....

And cars....are responsible for 35,000 deaths.

Knives.....over 1,500

Is it the number, or just because they are shot...because it looks like everything kills more people than rifles do...and other guns in mass shootings.....
 
Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.


The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.


Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

edtoon_COLOR_NRA_CO_Gun_Massacre.jpg

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

Isn't it odd that the same people who cheered the Iraqi resistance and their dependence on the small arms passed out by Saddam now say a resistance based on small arms would not be successful here?

I don't see such a resistance growing here in the US, but I am struck by the 180 switch.

Well again, what are you going to do against the U.S. miltary--that is armed with predator drones and tanks? That's why Iraq fell so easily when first invaded. They're no match for the U.S. Military.

No one needs an AK-47 or other assault type weapon to defend themselves in this country. There is no hip holser, you're not going to be able to conceal it for a concealed weapons permit--and if you can't use a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle to defend yourself--then you've got some serious issues with your shooting accuracy, and need to head out to a gun range for practice.


Yeah, actually, we do...the guy at the church in Texas needed his AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving 26 lives and likely even more.....

The store owners protecting their stores from democrats who were burning and looting everything in sight in California, Baltimore, Ferguson.....they needed their AR-15s to save their stores and their livlihoods...

The ranchers on the border, who face drug cartels running drugs, who are armed with actual, fully automatic miltiary rifles from Europe and china, those ranchers need those rifles.....

And since there are 13 million AR-15 rifles in this country....all of their owners need those rifles to....

The two men who used two rifles to murder people.....your government failed to stop them from getting those 2 rifles.....

That is on you, not us...

13,000,000 rifles owned peacefully..... vs ..... 2 used to commit murder...

Do you see how stupid your argument is?

Knives murdered over 1,500 people every single year.....yet you don't want them banned...
 
The exact same can be said of the left with regard to abortion. The difference: one has supporters who believe in the choice to defend against a “criminal” on a rampage, while the other believes in the choice to kill another unable to defend themselves.


what a "brilliant" conclusion.........You must be a hero looking for a chance to show just how heroic you are...I mean,just look at your little avatar.....LOL
 
[QUOTE="2aguy, post: 18575945, member: 50072"]the over 13 million AR-15 civilian rifles in this country are not military weapons[/QUOTE]


Gee, you obviously know MORE than the inventor 's family........

"Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47,” the Stoner family told NBC News late Wednesday. "He died long before any mass shootings occurred. But, we do think he would have been horrified and sickened as anyone, if not more by these events."
 
Yeah...the Hungarians didn't have guns...moron.

Notice the Hungarians shooting at Soviet airplanes??.....Yes or No?

Would that be the equivalent of you morons shooting your "formidable" arsenal at military armed drones back in this country?........Yes or No?


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I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby
I don't see a left leaning true rival to the NRA as possible because twice as many gun owners are republicans as democrats. Furthermore, dedicated owners who own multiple guns are 4 times more likely to vote republican. Easy access to firearms vs government controlled access is a basic difference between the parties and that's not likely to change. So American will continue to lead the world in firearms deaths and will always be considered a violent society.


No, actually, we don't lead the world in firearm deaths...we are around 111....but thanks for getting that wrong.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal who rape, rob and murder innocent people......and yet......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Number 1 in Total firearms death rate in the US compared to 23 countries 10.2/100,000 population (2010)

Number 1 in Total firearms death rate in the US compared to 77 countries 10.16/100,00 population (2017)

How U.S. gun deaths compare to other countries

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia
 
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[QUOTE="2aguy, post: 18575945, member: 50072"]the over 13 million AR-15 civilian rifles in this country are not military weapons


Gee, you obviously know MORE than the inventor 's family........

"Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47,” the Stoner family told NBC News late Wednesday. "He died long before any mass shootings occurred. But, we do think he would have been horrified and sickened as anyone, if not more by these events."[/QUOTE]


The AR-15 has never been used in a war.....ever. The M-16 is the military weapon...dipshit, the AR-15 has been the most popular civilain rifle for decades, there are over 13 million of them in private hands......

If you want a real military weapon.....try these....They have actually been in a war...

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I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby
I don't see a left leaning true rival to the NRA as possible because twice as many gun owners are republicans as democrats. Furthermore, dedicated owners who own multiple guns are 4 times more likely to vote republican. Easy access to firearms vs government controlled access is a basic difference between the parties and that's not likely to change. So American will continue to lead the world in firearms deaths and will always be considered a violent society.


No, actually, we don't lead the world in firearm deaths...we are around 111....but thanks for getting that wrong.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal who rape, rob and murder innocent people......and yet......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Total firearm death rate in the US 10.2/100,000 population.
How U.S. gun deaths compare to other countries


Yes...and then you can throw in that Americans use guns at least 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals.....and our gun crime rate went down 75%.....our gun murder rate went down 49%...and our violent crime rate went down 72%....

Meanwhile....gun crime is going up in Britain, Canada, Australia, and Europe....and of course you don't want to list countries that completely ban guns for civilians....since their murder rates are higher than ours...we don't even crack the top 100....
 
Yeah...the Hungarians didn't have guns...moron.

Notice the Hungarians shooting at Soviet airplanes??.....Yes or No?

Would that be the equivalent of you morons shooting your "formidable" arsenal at military armed drones back in this country?........Yes or No?


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They are Europeans.....they don't realize you shoot the pilots at the local bar...before they get into the aircraft....moron......and again, they don't have military weapons, do they.......and not in the numbers the Swiss had...with over 435,000 people with fully automatic military weapons ......why? Because they were confiscated.......so a few rifles hidden from the government as opposed to millions of people with guns didn't make a difference...which is why free people need easy access to guns....
 
I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby
I don't see a left leaning true rival to the NRA as possible because twice as many gun owners are republicans as democrats. Furthermore, dedicated owners who own multiple guns are 4 times more likely to vote republican. Easy access to firearms vs government controlled access is a basic difference between the parties and that's not likely to change. So American will continue to lead the world in firearms deaths and will always be considered a violent society.


No, actually, we don't lead the world in firearm deaths...we are around 111....but thanks for getting that wrong.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal who rape, rob and murder innocent people......and yet......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Total firearm death rate in the US 10.2/100,000 population.
How U.S. gun deaths compare to other countries


And, of course, that link doesn't talk about the fact that of those murdered with guns.....70-80% are criminals engaged in criminal activity....while the majority of our gun deaths are suicides..which do not count....
 
They are Europeans.....they don't realize you shoot the pilots at the local bar...before they get into the aircraft....moron......and again, they don't have military weapons, do they.......and not in the numbers the Swiss had...with over 435,000 people with fully automatic military weapons ......why? Because they were confiscated.......so a few rifles hidden from the government as opposed to millions of people with guns didn't make a difference...which is why free people need easy access to guns....


Like the fuck head, Trump, NEVER admit you're wrong.......LOL

Spin away (or go play with your precious guns)

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I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby
I don't see a left leaning true rival to the NRA as possible because twice as many gun owners are republicans as democrats. Furthermore, dedicated owners who own multiple guns are 4 times more likely to vote republican. Easy access to firearms vs government controlled access is a basic difference between the parties and that's not likely to change. So American will continue to lead the world in firearms deaths and will always be considered a violent society.


No, actually, we don't lead the world in firearm deaths...we are around 111....but thanks for getting that wrong.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal who rape, rob and murder innocent people......and yet......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Total firearm death rate in the US 10.2/100,000 population.
How U.S. gun deaths compare to other countries


And, of course, you link lies...China, Japan, South Korea, all have absolute gun control in their countries.......and higher suicide rates than the U.S.....as do

Main tables - Eurostat

May, 2014

France....14.13

Finland...14.55

Poland....15.51

Belgium....17.28

Austria....15.26

And....

World suicide rates by country

Per 100,000


Hungary ... 21.0
Belgium .... 18.4
Finland... 16.5
France... 14.6
Poland... 13.8
Austria... 13.8
Czech Republic... 12.7
New Zealand.... 11.9
Denmark... 11.3
Sweden..............11.1
Norway...............10.9
Iceland................10.4
Germany.............10.3
Canada...............10.2

United States.......10.1

How U.S. gun deaths compare to other countries

And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.
 

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