Hillary says NRA needs a "rival" organization of responsible gun owners

[sartre play]

Wish the NRA would go back to being for gun owners, & not a big money making lobby for gun manufactures. & wish Hillary would stay out of the gun mess.

 

[2aguy]

Wish the NRA would go back to being for gun owners, & not a big money making lobby for gun manufactures. & wish Hillary would stay out of the gun mess.

hilary won't stay out...the left won't stay out, the democrats won't stay out.....so the NRA is necessary to fight them.....as is the 2nd Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America, and all the state level gun rights groups...without them, guns are done.....

 

[nat4900]

Want to attract right wingers to a thread like moths to a flame?????

Write a post about guns......and all the cowboys on the right will rush to that thread trying to show off their prowess and "knowledge" about various deadly weapons.

It NEVER fails........LOL

 

[Cellblock2429]

Isn’t it interesting. All this talk from progressives on the need for strict gun control to “protect American citizens”, yet once we have a truck driving on the sidewalk killing pedestrians in New York City you could hear a pin drop from progressives in Washington and the main stream media. Oh I’m sure it’s all about making sure we have strict government regulations that protect American citizens alright.

And what is the ratio of Gun Deaths vs. Automobile Ramming-into-a-Crowd Deaths?

In terms of semi-auto (as there has never been close to an automatic killing reported in a crowd - particularly Vegas ) verses driving through a crowd at over 35 mph in a five minute window?

I just know that the recent reactions by liberal progressives in both incidents, show they are not serious about “regulations meant to protect Americans”. Truth is ... it was an armed citizen, not a cop, which stopped the killing at a church in Texas from getting worse. Liberals can’t deny that

The killer was done and leaving.

/——/ and you know he was done— how?

 

[oreo]

I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The only ones that don't want background checks are the ones that couldn't pass one.
90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

They're going to have to ban military assault type weapons also. This is getting to be too much--all they're used for is people killers.

 

[nat4900]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Want to attract right wingers to a thread like moths to a flame?????


Write a post about guns......and all the cowboys on the right will rush to that thread trying to show off their prowess and "knowledge" about various deadly weapons.

It NEVER fails........LOL

/—-/ Want to attract libtards? Post Abortion is murder. Works like a charm.

 

[oreo]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

/—-/ Please site the Federalist Papers where the FF State their intentions on this. TIA

 

[Darkwind]

I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The only ones that don't want background checks are the ones that couldn't pass one.
90 percent of Americans want expanded background checks on guns. Why isn’t this a political slam dunk?

They're going to have to ban military assault type weapons also. This is getting to be too much--all they're used for is people killers.

Complete drivel.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

/——/ My question is why Libs who hate an intrusive government would want to give up their last line of defense against tyranny. They claim Trump wants to be a dictator so Libs need guns to protect themselves. It makes no sense.

 

[BULLDOG]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

/—-/ Please site the Federalist Papers where the FF State their intentions on this. TIA

You think they did intend a bloodbath of innocents?

 

[Cellblock2429]

I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

/—-/ Hillary can be the gun Nazi: “No guns for you.”

 

[Cellblock2429]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

/—-/ Please site the Federalist Papers where the FF State their intentions on this. TIA

You think they did intend a bloodbath of innocents?

/—-/ Since there were crazy psychotic killers in the 1770s I’m sure they did consider it and knew they could be stopped with another gun.

 

[Flopper]

I agree! She said this in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC earlier this evening. I was an NRA member and strong supporter for several years - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. I would like to see a "rival" organization like the NRA was before it was hijacked by radicals.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

Much More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't see a left leaning true rival to the NRA as possible because twice as many gun owners are republicans as democrats. Furthermore, dedicated owners who own multiple guns are 4 times more likely to vote republican. Easy access to firearms vs government controlled access is a basic difference between the parties and that's not likely to change. So American will continue to lead the world in firearms deaths and will always be considered a violent society.

 

[BULLDOG]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

/—-/ Please site the Federalist Papers where the FF State their intentions on this. TIA

You think they did intend a bloodbath of innocents?

/—-/ Since there were crazy psychotic killers in the 1770s I’m sure they did consider it and knew they could be stopped with another gun.

10 mass shootings so far this year in the US with 112 dead and 531 wounded. How many in the 1770s?

 

[hunarcy]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

Isn't it odd that the same people who cheered the Iraqi resistance and their dependence on the small arms passed out by Saddam now say a resistance based on small arms would not be successful here?

I don't see such a resistance growing here in the US, but I am struck by the 180 switch.

 

[Avatar4321]

The Left has actually tried this numerous times. It always fails. Because the NRA represents responsible gun owners.
The Left is terrified of them because they are the most effective lobby in Washington.

Yes, the NRA is a VERY effective lobby - but not an HONEST one! It is run by hardcore NRA gun nutter radicals who refuse to give an inch even on gun control issues that most Americans and most gun owners support. Universal background checks should be a no-brainer.

You mean people who care about the right to defend themselves refuse to give up that right?

How unsurprising

 

[nat4900]

Isn't it odd that the same people who cheered the Iraqi resistance and their dependence on the small arms passed out by Saddam now say a resistance based on small arms would not be successful here?

Dimwit, remember this???

Soviets put brutal end to Hungarian revolution - Nov 04, 1956 ...

 

[oreo]

Very true 9 out of 10 gun owners in this country want background, mental health background checks, etc. They don't want themselves or families to be shot and killed by crazies either.

The possible answer to that logical question is that the NRA is mostly a lobbying arm for gun manufacturers....They want for ANYONE who wants to buy a gun to be able to buy it (them)......Simple as that....business and profits.

Again, you'll have people that will argue and who don't want any background checks, and more than likely it's because they can't pass one.

Then the second argurment is well, what if we have to defend ourselves against our own government. Well, they have tanks, and predator droners, so your automatic military style weapon is not going to protect you from that anyway.

Just stupidity all around.

Our forefathers never intended this blood bath of innocents when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

Isn't it odd that the same people who cheered the Iraqi resistance and their dependence on the small arms passed out by Saddam now say a resistance based on small arms would not be successful here?

I don't see such a resistance growing here in the US, but I am struck by the 180 switch.

Well again, what are you going to do against the U.S. miltary--that is armed with predator drones and tanks? That's why Iraq fell so easily when first invaded. They're no match for the U.S. Military.

No one needs an AK-47 or other assault type weapon to defend themselves in this country. There is no hip holser, you're not going to be able to conceal it for a concealed weapons permit--and if you can't use a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle to defend yourself--then you've got some serious issues with your shooting accuracy, and need to head out to a gun range for practice.