Hillary's Tax Speech; an Exercise in Fantasy and False Promises

[JimBowie1958]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Fantasy and false promises... isn't that Trump's whole gig right now?

 

[Brynmr]

Clinton's not our problem. Trump is. If he doesn't stop screwing up, America is screwed.

 

[OldLady]

Clinton's not our problem. Trump is. If he doesn't stop screwing up, America is screwed.

Et tu, Brute?

 

[TooTall]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

 

[OldLady]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
highlights for you

 

[TooTall]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
highlights for you

A simple yes or no was what I was looking for. Aren't you interested in talking about more free stuff? Thanks anyway.

 

[OldLady]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
highlights for you

A simple yes or no was what I was looking for. Aren't you interested in talking about more free stuff? Thanks anyway.

Yeah, I'm tired too, and I'm not interested enough to look it up for you.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Clinton's not our problem. Trump is. If he doesn't stop screwing up, America is screwed.

So what exactly did Trump say that was a crew up? That 2A people can stop Hillary from getting elected?

What? Methinks you maybe drinking the Media Kool Aid, friend.

 

[Oldstyle]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
highlights for you

For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

 

[JimBowie1958]

For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

Exactly; this is just antoher remix of the same old shit libtards have been selling for the last 50 years, and these idiots think it will finally work! lol

 

[Oldstyle]

Hillary could care less if it works, Jim...it's all about the cash for the Clinton's. Another stint in the Oval Office gives them one more shot at banking away the big bucks. If the Middle Class continues to suffer...they'll blame it on some "vast right wing conspiracy" and laugh their asses off all the way to the bank. It's why the Bernie supporters are having such a hard time getting behind her. They know she's as corrupt as they come.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hillary could care less if it works, Jim...it's all about the cash for the Clinton's. Another stint in the Oval Office gives them one more shot at banking away the big bucks. If the Middle Class continues to suffer...they'll blame it on some "vast right wing conspiracy" and laugh their asses off all the way to the bank. It's why the Bernie supporters are having such a hard time getting behind her. They know she's as corrupt as they come.

But they will hold their noses and vote for her anyway because she has a vagina.

 

[Care4all]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
highlights for you

For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

It puts as much money or MORE in the private sector citizen worker's hands....the employee's hands.... and then from their hands, directly in to the economy.

 

[JimBowie1958]

For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

It puts as much money or MORE in the private sector citizen worker's hands....the employee's hands.... and then from their hands, directly in to the economy.

So how is she going to reduce federal taxes in the already over taxed American Middle Class?

 

[Care4all]

For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

It puts as much money or MORE in the private sector citizen worker's hands....the employee's hands.... and then from their hands, directly in to the economy.

So how is she going to reduce federal taxes in the already over taxed American Middle Class?

Well, it's simply not just taxes that affects the middle class.....there are many many middle class families who already do not pay any federal income tax....so things like Donald's tax write off with no cap for childcare, is primarily for those who are wealthy and spend $10k plus per child for child care or basically, they are doing better than most of those in the middle class are doing...

Most citizens do not have enough tax write offs to take deductions and they file the short form....

So in Hillary's tax plan, parents with children would get a tax credit for child care instead of this cap lifted on the deduction for child care thingy....that only benefits those who takes deductions when filing and have a very prestigious and costly child care service, this is better for the middle class....a credit is better than a 'deduction' any day of the week...

We have some of the lowest tax rates in our history and we are taking in each year in revenues at the lowest percentage of GDP in recent history as well....

in hillary's plan, the middle class federal income taxes are not raised, but the very wealthiest's taxes are raised...this reduces our deficits, which reduces the need to print money and accelerate inflation, which benefits the middle class the most...short and long term imo.

Using some of these extra revenues to fix our infrastructure problems is also beneficial to the construction field of workers which has been suffering since the housing bust....middle class workers of all kinds...will benefit by jobs added, and all of us and our children will benefit simply by building up this infrastructure...

Trump's plan now has changed some from what he first spoke about and I read he's using the ''ryan'' tax plan now....

it's mostly a joke, a gift horse for the very very very wealthiest and adds debt from here to kingdom come.... that means inflation...

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Fantasy and false promises... isn't that Trump's whole gig right now?

Which is why many of us will not vote or choose the lesser of two evils.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
highlights for you

Pretty much the end of small business.

That will work well.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

It puts as much money or MORE in the private sector citizen worker's hands....the employee's hands.... and then from their hands, directly in to the economy.

So how is she going to reduce federal taxes in the already over taxed American Middle Class?

Well, it's simply not just taxes that affects the middle class.....there are many many middle class families who already do not pay any federal income tax....so things like Donald's tax write off with no cap for childcare, is primarily for those who are wealthy and spend $10k plus per child for child care or basically, they are doing better than most of those in the middle class are doing...

Most citizens do not have enough tax write offs to take deductions and they file the short form....

So in Hillary's tax plan, parents with children would get a tax credit for child care instead of this cap lifted on the deduction for child care thingy....that only benefits those who takes deductions when filing and have a very prestigious and costly child care service, this is better for the middle class....a credit is better than a 'deduction' any day of the week...

We have some of the lowest tax rates in our history and we are taking in each year in revenues at the lowest percentage of GDP in recent history as well....

in hillary's plan, the middle class federal income taxes are not raised, but the very wealthiest's taxes are raised...this reduces our deficits, which reduces the need to print money and accelerate inflation, which benefits the middle class the most...short and long term imo.

Using some of these extra revenues to fix our infrastructure problems is also beneficial to the construction field of workers which has been suffering since the housing bust....middle class workers of all kinds...will benefit by jobs added, and all of us and our children will benefit simply by building up this infrastructure...

Trump's plan now has changed some from what he first spoke about and I read he's using the ''ryan'' tax plan now....

it's mostly a joke, a gift horse for the very very very wealthiest and adds debt from here to kingdom come.... that means inflation...

All things I've supported for a long time.....

Except for this stupid infrastructure idea.

And the minimum wage increase to 15 bucks. 10 bucks..I am O.K. with.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hillary had a good speech today, but it was fundamentally flawed, in that it ignored her track record of Pay to Play administration. For example she has claimed to want to stop the clear cutting of the Amazon forest, and then she uses her influence to get the Columbian government to approve a land lease to a resource bidnessman from Canada that did exactly that to dozens of square miles of Rain Forest. Why?

Because he got a Canadian business association to give Bill millions in speaking fees. She She cleared the way for the XL pipeline after promising to oppose it because of donations and speaking fees to Bill again, and the same thing is true for preventing the nation of India getting nuclear technology; she switched once a donation came in. Of course she claims it was all mere coincidence like the $400 million that went to Iran to get hostages released was all just coincidence and not a ransom, lol.

The problem with Hillary is not so much her proposals and honesty so much as it is the odds of her not switching her position due to donations and favors. That is what Crony Capitalism is all about friends.

And she also proposed to build shovel ready project, repair our nations infrastructure, etc, but why has this not been done ALREADY? She is running as Obama 2.0, so if Obama has not done it yet, why should anyone believe that Hillary will?

Hillary also has this problem of self contradiction in principle. For example, she says that Trumps plan will bankrupt the nation and then complains that he is not giving away enough money to working Moms by giving a reduction to taxable income for child care instead of a financial hand out to pay for it all. Why should anyone believe anything she says since the last donation to the Clinton Foundation will always count for more in her mind than any number of promises to stupid voters?

Hillary also has a problem with distinguishing the real world from her policy paper world. While saying that she will reinvigorate our nations power grid using Clean Energy may sound promising, it is not a Reality as of yet, which is why various green energy companies have gone out of business despite government help. No, we cannot wait 5 to ten years for the green energy research to catch up to what we already hav ein coal and shale oil, two forms of energy Hillary want to penalize due to supposed Global Warming affects which is an absolute disaster of a theory. And even if you think it is proven to be real, then why not pressure India and China to clean up their act instead of shutting down perfectly good coal here at home?

Hillarys speech was a good speech in style, etc, but as to the facts? She completely contradicts each and every one of them.

I missed her speech, but I missed Trump's speech as well. Did Hillary promise free college for everyone as Bernie did?

Hillary Clinton's 'Family First' economic plan explained
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For those of you who slept through your economics classes or never signed up for them...Hillary Clinton's economic "plan" is a watered down version of the same kind of stimulus spending on infrastructure that failed to create jobs. She threw in some assorted giveaways to her voting base...government subsidies for college, paid family leave for the parents of newborns and a $15 an hour national minimum wage all of which is going to suck money out of the Private Sector and hurt job creation. What's pathetic is that she want's you to believe that she'll pay for all these things by raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations! The reason I say pathetic is that anyone who thinks Hillary is going to bite the hand that fed her all those millions of dollars in "speaking fees" is as naive as they come.

It puts as much money or MORE in the private sector citizen worker's hands....the employee's hands.... and then from their hands, directly in to the economy.

That's a myth that exists only in first year economics books.

It's never been proven in reality.