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By the way for all of you people aghast about these ministers being told that business's have to serve homosexuals- that is I believe a state law being enforced.
I look forward to hearing why State laws banning marriage should be respected- but not State laws banning discrimination in service.
And recourse is available on a local level- change State law so that people can discriminate against whoever they want to.
yupIs that the one where it turned out to not be a church but a for profit business?Sounds like another rightwing load of bullshit
Someone let me know what the REAL story is
Too late for denial. Our usual same sex fascists already have responded to a thread on this, and go with the usual "submit or be punished" line of logic.
City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings Fox News
I'm no true believer but this is complete bullshit & goes against our founding principles.
City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings Fox News
I'm no true believer but this is complete bullshit & goes against our founding principles.
you're no true believer ?
sure you are, you believe everything Fox feeds you.
Right, because Fox News totally made up the lawsuit that is being filed....City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings Fox News
I'm no true believer but this is complete bullshit & goes against our founding principles.
you're no true believer ?
sure you are, you believe everything Fox feeds you.
Is that the one where it turned out to not be a church but a for profit business?Sounds like another rightwing load of bullshit
Someone let me know what the REAL story is
Too late for denial. Our usual same sex fascists already have responded to a thread on this, and go with the usual "submit or be punished" line of logic.
Sounds like another rightwing load of bullshit
Someone let me know what the REAL story is
The real story was covered, at length, in previous threads on this stupidity.
They are NOT "ministers", they're business men, running a for-profit business.
They broke the law. It has nothing at all to do with being "liberal" except that RWs are in favor of breaking equality laws.
Sounds like another rightwing load of bullshit
Someone let me know what the REAL story is
The real story was covered, at length, in previous threads on this stupidity.
They are NOT "ministers", they're business men, running a for-profit business.
They broke the law. It has nothing at all to do with being "liberal" except that RWs are in favor of breaking equality laws.
That's what they said in Nashville about the Woolworths Lunch Counter.Where do they advertise secular weddings? I'm skeptical, why not go to a JP?It is a business that advertising performing a secular wedding ceremony. They are not a tax exempt church, get over it.
I have nothing to get over. I didn't say it was a church and it isn't my business. The point was that it isn't yours either, most folks find a company that provides the service they want but the fags are too deranged apparently. You, on the other hand, are a slave to your orientation. You live in the gay threads, it's your life. Maybe you need to get over it?
You don't have to be a member of any church nor profess a religion to get married there. Anyone (except the "fags") can get a license and make an appointment. Secular, religious, whatever (except the "fags"). That violates the business laws of the locality apparently.
Know what they have the option of doing? Stop being a for profit business and declare themselves a tax exempt church. Oh, but then they couldn't worship the all mighty dollar that seems to be more important than their actual faith.
You're so blinded by your tyrannical, leftist, ideology you can even see that stuff like this will hurt your cause...Go somewhere else
Blacs who fought for their civil rights would roll over in their graves if they knew the way you faggots have perverted their cause.
The real story is, the man and wife run a wedding chapel business for cash.
They get marry every body who applies or the close shop or go to jail and do not pass go.
Good.
Right, because Fox News totally made up the lawsuit that is being filed....City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings Fox News
I'm no true believer but this is complete bullshit & goes against our founding principles.
you're no true believer ?
sure you are, you believe everything Fox feeds you.
That's what they said in Nashville about the Woolworths Lunch Counter.Where do they advertise secular weddings? I'm skeptical, why not go to a JP?
I have nothing to get over. I didn't say it was a church and it isn't my business. The point was that it isn't yours either, most folks find a company that provides the service they want but the fags are too deranged apparently. You, on the other hand, are a slave to your orientation. You live in the gay threads, it's your life. Maybe you need to get over it?
You don't have to be a member of any church nor profess a religion to get married there. Anyone (except the "fags") can get a license and make an appointment. Secular, religious, whatever (except the "fags"). That violates the business laws of the locality apparently.
Know what they have the option of doing? Stop being a for profit business and declare themselves a tax exempt church. Oh, but then they couldn't worship the all mighty dollar that seems to be more important than their actual faith.
You're so blinded by your tyrannical, leftist, ideology you can even see that stuff like this will hurt your cause
Blacs who fought for their civil rights would roll over in their graves if they knew the way you faggots have perverted their cause.
The same people who thought Blacks shouldn't have equal rights with Whites, also oppose equal rights for 'faggots'.
Matter of fact- the same people who use the word 'faggot' are pretty much the same people who use the word 'N****r'- and for the same reason.
Nero reborn! I wonder when the Libs will start crucifying Christians upside down and/or tossing them to the lions. Thought we had "evolved" past such barbaric persecution.City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings Fox News
I'm no true believer but this is complete bullshit & goes against our founding principles.
Actually, no. The Hitching Post explicitly states that they can and will perform non-religious ceremonies in purely secular services.
They're not a church, they're officially open for everyone regardless of religion.
They are still ordained ministers and cannot be compelled to act against their morals.
So if they claim as 'ordained ministers' that their moral beliefs state that they cannot pay income taxes- they can't be compelled to pay income taxes?
Taxes and forcing some to perform a wedding by government fiat are two different things.
The claim was made:
They are still ordained ministers and cannot be compelled to act against their morals.
My question stands- can they be compelled to pay income taxes if they claim it would be against their morals?
The issue is exactly the same. Can anyone who claims to be a religious professional be forced by government to do anything that he or she claims is against his or her religious teachings?
For instance- can the government force a Seventh Day Adventist minister to allow blood transfusions to their children?
Tax paying is a required part of society, the burden placed on not being able to religiously pay taxes has to be extremely high, and considering most religions are 100% OK with it, this is a strawman and a non-issue.
The children/blood transfusion issue is more about the power of the government to be a guardian over parents of a minor, again, not relevant.
What we have here is government force on ordained ministers, in a non essential, easy to get elsewhere service.
As an edit, its Jehovah's Witnesses that refuse blood transfusions, not Seventh Day Adventists.
Is that the one where it turned out to not be a church but a for profit business?Sounds like another rightwing load of bullshit
Someone let me know what the REAL story is
Too late for denial. Our usual same sex fascists already have responded to a thread on this, and go with the usual "submit or be punished" line of logic.
How does ones tax status affect ones position as a minister? I forgot the part of the 1st amendment that states that....
Sounds like another rightwing load of bullshit
Someone let me know what the REAL story is
The real story was covered, at length, in previous threads on this stupidity.
They are NOT "ministers", they're business men, running a for-profit business.
They broke the law. It has nothing at all to do with being "liberal" except that RWs are in favor of breaking equality laws.
The government doesn't get to decide who is a minister or not, that pesky first amendment again.
Nero reborn! I wonder when the Libs will start crucifying Christians upside down and/or tossing them to the lions. Thought we had "evolved" past such barbaric persecution.City threatens to arrest ministers who refuse to perform same-sex weddings Fox News
I'm no true believer but this is complete bullshit & goes against our founding principles.
