Hottest Summer on Record

[Wyatt earp]

1998, record hot year
2005, nearly as hot as 1998
2010, nearly as hot as 1998
2014, as hot, or hotter, than 1998
2015, definately the hottest year on record.

See a pattern here? You people have the idiocy to call this cooling? LOL

Relying on low information voters again? What pattern statistically?

 

[Old Rocks]

1998, record hot year
2005, nearly as hot as 1998
2010, nearly as hot as 1998
2014, as hot, or hotter, than 1998
2015, definately the hottest year on record.

See a pattern here? You people have the idiocy to call this cooling? LOL

The pattern is the temperature "records" are so small the actual instruments are admitted by NOAA to be incapable of measuring that accurately. The reality is the claims are a FRAUD!

Damn, what a fucking dumb post!

Do you deny that the 1998 temperature was the warmest ever recorded up to that time? Note the years 2005 and 2010 were listed as 'nearly as hot', as in very small differance. So we had a year nearly as hot as 1998 in 2005, seven years after 1998. then we had another year nearly as hot in 2010, five years after 2005. Then a year 'as hot, or hotter', in 2014, 4 years after 2010. And this year will clearly exceed 1998.

Yes, small differances between 1998, 2005, and 2010. All much warmer years than any that preceded them in the modern record. And 2015 is going to clearly exceed, by more than a small differance, those three years. A very clear pattern.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, Silly Billy, that is another lie you pulled out of your ass. Until 2007, the Northwest Passage had not been open for a normal ship at any time. We have had several years where they have ran normal ships through it for a brief time in the summer. The prediction was that the Passage would open, not that it would be open for months. That is far in the future.

BULLSHIT! HMS Investigator did it way back in 1852-53. Below is the wiki for you research challenged types!
HMS Investigator (1848) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sometimes I don't know who we are dealing with, I still remember reading that in Jr high in 1978

My, my, doubling down on a lie. Well done, Mr. Bear.

Got something substantial? Or just pulling it out of your but again?

Lets see, what was said was that the Northwest Passage was not open to normal ships until 2007. Westwall replied that a normal ship transited the passage in 1852. By the his link, I showed where the ship did not transit the passage, it was trapped in ice, and abandoned.

The you said that you had learned that the ship transited the passage in the eighth grade. Really, Mr. Bear?

 

[Old Rocks]

1998, record hot year
2005, nearly as hot as 1998
2010, nearly as hot as 1998
2014, as hot, or hotter, than 1998
2015, definately the hottest year on record.

See a pattern here? You people have the idiocy to call this cooling? LOL

Relying on low information voters again? What pattern statistically?

That means that in a period of 17 years, we have had the five warmest years on record. And toward the end of that period, the occurance of the warmest years were getting closer in time. So in the next 17 years, there will likely be more than five that match or exceed these years. Now that is a very clear prediction.

So, you don't believe that the warming is real? Go ahead, and make a firm prediction.

 

[Billy_Bob]

1998, record hot year
2005, nearly as hot as 1998
2010, nearly as hot as 1998
2014, as hot, or hotter, than 1998
2015, definately the hottest year on record.

See a pattern here? You people have the idiocy to call this cooling? LOL

Relying on low information voters again? What pattern statistically?

That means that in a period of 17 years, we have had the five warmest years on record. And toward the end of that period, the occurance of the warmest years were getting closer in time. So in the next 17 years, there will likely be more than five that match or exceed these years. Now that is a very clear prediction.

So, you don't believe that the warming is real? Go ahead, and make a firm prediction.

Dam your a gullible fucking idiot...

You will believe anything your masters put up for you.. Use some brain power and check into ti for yourself ....fucing left wing morons...

Tell me fucktard, Why have the satellite/USCRN record and the HCN records diverged? Who is wrong?

 

[Old Rocks]

Hey silly Billy of the cooling El Nino in April of this year, when are you going to post something that suggests even the slightest amount of intellect behind it? Are you denying that this has been the hottest summer on record? Are you predicting that this year will go down as a cool year? What are you saying, oh little silly Billy?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Hey silly Billy of the cooling El Nino in April of this year, when are you going to post something that suggests even the slightest amount of intellect behind it? Are you denying that this has been the hottest summer on record? Are you predicting that this year will go down as a cool year? What are you saying, oh little silly Billy?

Your a man who does nothing but claims everything.. Basically a useful idiot who spouts lies and deceptions.. You wont make any predictions of your own and wont think for yourself.. You believe the thinking has been done and you are right. I have shown why i think 95% of what is being said is pure deception, a lie and yet you provide nothing but adhoms and appeals to authority and their junk science..

You are an empty sack.. Just like all alarmists. Again you fail to address the scientific premise of who is wrong and why. Tell me, do you ever think for yourself?

 

[westwall]

1998, record hot year
2005, nearly as hot as 1998
2010, nearly as hot as 1998
2014, as hot, or hotter, than 1998
2015, definately the hottest year on record.

See a pattern here? You people have the idiocy to call this cooling? LOL

The pattern is the temperature "records" are so small the actual instruments are admitted by NOAA to be incapable of measuring that accurately. The reality is the claims are a FRAUD!

Damn, what a fucking dumb post!

Do you deny that the 1998 temperature was the warmest ever recorded up to that time? Note the years 2005 and 2010 were listed as 'nearly as hot', as in very small differance. So we had a year nearly as hot as 1998 in 2005, seven years after 1998. then we had another year nearly as hot in 2010, five years after 2005. Then a year 'as hot, or hotter', in 2014, 4 years after 2010. And this year will clearly exceed 1998.

Yes, small differances between 1998, 2005, and 2010. All much warmer years than any that preceded them in the modern record. And 2015 is going to clearly exceed, by more than a small differance, those three years. A very clear pattern.

Yes. Anyone who has read even the slightest bit of history knows that the decade of the 1930's was warmer than 1998. Several years throughout the 1930's were warmer. Only through the magic of data falsification, as performed by that maestro of prevarication Dr. Hanson, could the 1930's be demoted from their former glory.

 

[westwall]

No, Silly Billy, that is another lie you pulled out of your ass. Until 2007, the Northwest Passage had not been open for a normal ship at any time. We have had several years where they have ran normal ships through it for a brief time in the summer. The prediction was that the Passage would open, not that it would be open for months. That is far in the future.

BULLSHIT! HMS Investigator did it way back in 1852-53. Below is the wiki for you research challenged types!
HMS Investigator (1848) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sometimes I don't know who we are dealing with, I still remember reading that in Jr high in 1978

My, my, doubling down on a lie. Well done, Mr. Bear.

Got something substantial? Or just pulling it out of your but again?

Lets see, what was said was that the Northwest Passage was not open to normal ships until 2007. Westwall replied that a normal ship transited the passage in 1852. By the his link, I showed where the ship did not transit the passage, it was trapped in ice, and abandoned.

The you said that you had learned that the ship transited the passage in the eighth grade. Really, Mr. Bear?

Actually, the ship DID transit the majority of the Passage. It got caught on the return if my memory serves.

 

[mamooth]

There isn't anyone out there claiming that ship was first to transit the northwest passage. 100% of the histories say Amundsen was the first.

Obviously, there's only one possible explanation for that. The vast global socialist conspiracy has been altering the history for over 150 years.

 

[westwall]

There isn't anyone out there claiming that ship was first to transit the northwest passage. 100% of the histories say Amundsen was the first.

Obviously, there's only one possible explanation for that. The vast global socialist conspiracy has been altering the history for over 150 years.

Yes, that's because Amundsen made it back. And............ what year was that?

 

[jc456]

Climate change is occurring on every planet in the system.

We inhabit only one.

2+2=

Bullshit, dummy

Oh, you poor little fella.

I feel sorry for idiots who don't realize that man made global warming is real.

I feel bad for those who can't prove it.

 

[mamooth]

Yes, that's because Amundsen made it back. And............ what year was that?

The crew of HMS Investigator made it back as well, without their ship. They didn't claim to have completed the northwest passage.

It's absurd to say they finished and then turned around, and the only way to finish the passage is get completely through all the ice and keep going to the other side. Anyone returning to their point of origin in the Atlantic and saying "Yeah, we did the passage, but then we turned around, which is why we're not in the Pacific! Yeah, that's the ticket! Just trust us!" would have been laughed at and considered frauds.

 

[westwall]

Yes, that's because Amundsen made it back. And............ what year was that?

The crew of HMS Investigator made it back as well, without their ship. They didn't claim to have completed the northwest passage.

It's absurd to say they finished and then turned around, and the only way to finish the passage is get completely through all the ice and keep going to the other side. Anyone returning to their point of origin in the Atlantic and saying "Yeah, we did the passage, but then we turned around, which is why we're not in the Pacific! Yeah, that's the ticket! Just trust us!" would have been laughed at and considered frauds.

What year did Amundsen make it then? Inquiring minds want to know......

 

[Old Rocks]

Roald Amundsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1903, Amundsen led the first expedition to successfully traverse Canada's Northwest Passage between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. He planned a small expedition of six men in a 45-ton fishing vessel, Gjøa, in order to have flexibility. His ship had relatively shallow draft. His technique was to use a small ship and hug the coast. Amundsen had the ship outfitted with a small gasoline engine.[7] They traveled via Baffin Bay, the Parry Channel and then south through Peel Sound, James Ross Strait, Simpson Strait and Rae Strait. They spent two winters (1903–04 and 1904–05) at King William Island in the harbor of what is today Gjoa Haven, Nunavut, Canada.[6][7] During this time, Amundsen and the crew learned from the local Netsilik Inuit people about Arctic survival skills, which he found invaluable in his later expedition to the South Pole. For example, he learned to use sled dogs for transportation of goods and to wear animal skins in lieu of heavy, woolen parkas, which could not deter cold when wet.

Leaving Gjoa Haven, he sailed west and passed Cambridge Bay, which had been reached from the west by Richard Collinson in 1852. Continuing to the south of Victoria Island, the ship cleared the Canadian Arctic Archipelago on 17 August 1905. It had to stop for the winter before going on to Nome on the Alaska District's Pacific coast. Five hundred miles (800 km) away, Eagle City, Alaska, had a telegraphstation; Amundsen traveled there (and back) overland to wire a success message (collect) on 5 December 1905. His team reached Nome in 1906. Because the water along the route was sometimes as shallow as 3 ft (0.91 m), a larger ship could not have made the voyage.

Mr. Westwall, it took Amundsen three years in a very small boat. Since 2007 there have been several large passenger ships that have transited the passage. Your line of arguement is not only stupid, it is also very silly.

You have shown repeatedly that you have no regard for truth.

 

[westwall]

Roald Amundsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1903, Amundsen led the first expedition to successfully traverse Canada's Northwest Passage between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. He planned a small expedition of six men in a 45-ton fishing vessel, Gjøa, in order to have flexibility. His ship had relatively shallow draft. His technique was to use a small ship and hug the coast. Amundsen had the ship outfitted with a small gasoline engine.[7] They traveled via Baffin Bay, the Parry Channel and then south through Peel Sound, James Ross Strait, Simpson Strait and Rae Strait. They spent two winters (1903–04 and 1904–05) at King William Island in the harbor of what is today Gjoa Haven, Nunavut, Canada.[6][7] During this time, Amundsen and the crew learned from the local Netsilik Inuit people about Arctic survival skills, which he found invaluable in his later expedition to the South Pole. For example, he learned to use sled dogs for transportation of goods and to wear animal skins in lieu of heavy, woolen parkas, which could not deter cold when wet.

Leaving Gjoa Haven, he sailed west and passed Cambridge Bay, which had been reached from the west by Richard Collinson in 1852. Continuing to the south of Victoria Island, the ship cleared the Canadian Arctic Archipelago on 17 August 1905. It had to stop for the winter before going on to Nome on the Alaska District's Pacific coast. Five hundred miles (800 km) away, Eagle City, Alaska, had a telegraphstation; Amundsen traveled there (and back) overland to wire a success message (collect) on 5 December 1905. His team reached Nome in 1906. Because the water along the route was sometimes as shallow as 3 ft (0.91 m), a larger ship could not have made the voyage.

Mr. Westwall, it took Amundsen three years in a very small boat. Since 2007 there have been several large passenger ships that have transited the passage. Your line of arguement is not only stupid, it is also very silly.

You have shown repeatedly that you have no regard for truth.

Three years, in a very small boat. In 1903. Got it. And look at that. He spent two winters with the Inuit learning Arctic survival skills. So he probably could have made it in one or two years for certain. So, waaaaaayy back in 1903 they were able to transit the Passage. Just imagine if they had had a modern ship like we have today. He couldn't break ice at all and he made it with little difficulty.

 

[Old Rocks]

7.3 Trends in shipping in the Northwest Passage and the Beaufort Sea | Environment and Natural Resources

Well, Mr. Westwall, you are certainly making a fool of yourself on this subject. The Northwest Passage has opened several years since 2007. Yes, there were ships using it prior to that time, ships that were following an icebreaker. And were armored for Arctic use. In the near future, I expect to see that passage open every summer for a brief time for ships of any type.

 

[westwall]

7.3 Trends in shipping in the Northwest Passage and the Beaufort Sea | Environment and Natural Resources

Well, Mr. Westwall, you are certainly making a fool of yourself on this subject. The Northwest Passage has opened several years since 2007. Yes, there were ships using it prior to that time, ships that were following an icebreaker. And were armored for Arctic use. In the near future, I expect to see that passage open every summer for a brief time for ships of any type.

Yeah, look at that Amundsen transited way back in 1903 with a 45 ton wooden boat with a gasoline motor. Wow, look at that. Multi thousand ton ships have been able to do it too...and lo and behold they have had to have ice breakers to do it...


Let's take a look at the rest of the crossings shall we? Well look at that! Since the 1980's ships using the passage has been an ANNUAL EVENT! Holy crap Batman! It's not rare or unusual at all! They just needed to build a reinforced bow on to their ships so they could break the ice! Who knew!



"A record number (30) of vessels transited through the Northwest Passage in 2012. In 2013, for the first time, a large bulk carrier transited the Northwest Passage. Only 17 vessels managed the full northwest passages in 2014, due to a short and cold summer.

Since the first crossing of the Northwest Passage by Amundsen in 1906, few ships (less than 1 every 10 years on average) had successfully completed the full passage until 1969, when the oil tanker SS Manhattan, refitted with an ice-breaker bow, crossed the Passage from east to west, and then returned east. That trip resulted in ten transits being recorded that summer, as four icebreakers escorted the oil tanker. The number of completed trips through the Arctic Ocean increased in the late 1970s, mostly due to the availability of icebreakers and other ships capable of navigating in difficult northern waters. This is particularly the case for Arctic tourism2.

More recently, there has been an increase in ship-based research in the Northwest Passage and the Beaufort Sea, attributable to concern over the effects of climate change in arctic marine ecosystems, culminating in more research efforts during the International Polar Year.

From the 1980s on, voyages through the Passage have become an annual event. The number of transits increased from 4 per year in the 1980s to 20-30 per year in 2009-2013. These transits are mostly completed by icebreakers on coast guard and research duties, small vessels or adventurers, passenger ships offering Arctic tourism opportunities, and tug and supply vessels, some with barges. Other types of ships completing the passage include oil/fuel tankers, drill ships, seismic vessels, cable vessels, and buoy tenders. A great portion of the increase in transits since the late 1980s is due to an increase in shipping activities by tug-supply vessels--half of them with icebreaking capacity--involved in the oil and gas industry in the Beaufort Sea."

7.3 Trends in shipping in the Northwest Passage and the Beaufort Sea | Environment and Natural Resources

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So the passage was open 100 years ago. That totally destroys the argument that global warming opened it in the first place

 

[Old Rocks]

My, my, doubling down on stupid, are we. Yes, as the warming has progressed, there are more and more ships using the Northwest Passage. And some have already made the passage that were not armored for the Arctic. That will become a common occurrence in the coming years.

Fact Friday - Fact 2 - Polar Ocean Challenge

Circumnavigating the North Pole in a single season has only become possible due to Climate Change and the increase in the melting of the Arctic ice each summer.

This difficult feat has in fact been achieved before.

In 2010, two vessels, a trimaran and a steel hulled vessel both completed the voyage around the Arctic Ocean. The trimaran ‘Northern Passage’ was sailed by Borge Ousland, a Norwegian explorer and his crew of three.

The steel hulled sailing yacht was ‘Peter 1′, sailed by a crew all under the age of 25 and headed up by captain Daniel Gavrilo. ‘Peter 1′, a Russian yacht with a total of eight on board. Both these vessels sailed in an anticlockwise direction – sailing through the North East Passage first, and then the North West Passage.

In 2011, a British yacht ‘Eshamy’ sailed out of Hartlepool on her voyage to circumnavigate the North Pole. ‘Eshamy’ sailed clockwise round the Arctic Ocean – through the North West Passage first, and then the North East Passage.

A Polish Yacht attempted an anticlockwise circumnavigation around the North Pole in 2013. Due to the ice conditions they had to over winter in Vancouver, before completing their journey in 2014.