House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill

More evidence the NRA is a terrorist organization, and the fools who posted #2 & #3 above who enable the NRA to put profit over the people.
statists look for any reason to take away ones liberties.

Should criminals have guns?
Should children have guns?
More laws equal more crime… Fact

That's the point, you have a for profit legal system and a privatized prison system complete with convict leasing and stocks traded on Wall Street. There is a profit motive for higher crime rates in society, longer sentencing, higher rates of recidivism and more criminalized behaviors.
 
This is seriously fucked up.


House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill

According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.



The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.


Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.


"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.

The problem is the SSA made the definition far to broad. Even the ACLU, no staunch defender of the 2nd amendment, opposed the rule.

Not being able to handle one's own finances as you get older does not mean the person is incompetent. For that a judge has to decide.

Before or after a harm is committed will the judge decide on the competence of the actor.
 
This is seriously fucked up.


House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill

According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.



The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.


Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.


"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.

The problem is the SSA made the definition far to broad. Even the ACLU, no staunch defender of the 2nd amendment, opposed the rule.

Not being able to handle one's own finances as you get older does not mean the person is incompetent. For that a judge has to decide.

Before or after a harm is committed will the judge decide on the competence of the actor.


Often not at all.
 
More like, now senior citizens can defend themselves from nutjobs despite minor infirmities.
 
This is seriously fucked up.


House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill

According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.



The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.


Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.


"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.

The problem is the SSA made the definition far to broad. Even the ACLU, no staunch defender of the 2nd amendment, opposed the rule.

Not being able to handle one's own finances as you get older does not mean the person is incompetent. For that a judge has to decide.

Before or after a harm is committed will the judge decide on the competence of the actor.

If the family goes through the motions of telling SSA they are mentally unfit to handle their own finances, it is up to them to also have them mentally adjudicated if they think they are a potential harm to themselves or others
 
This is seriously fucked up.


House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill

According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.



The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.


Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.


"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.

Insanity!! These Republicans are mentally ill themselves!!
 
This is seriously fucked up.


House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill

According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.



The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.


Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.


"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.

Hey, the Trumpbots have a right to arms like the rest of us.
 
US gun laws: House votes to loosen background checks rules - BBC News

The US House of Representatives has voted to scrap regulations that require background checks for people purchasing guns with mental health issues.
...
The background-check rules were introduced to provide information on the gun-buying history of people receiving benefits for mental disability.


Way to go... So now you have to buy more guns to defend yourself against the nutjobs you sold guns to before...

Once again progressives are forced to exaggerate/lie to make their "points"

This prevents a person from losing their 2nd amendment rights solely by being placed on an SSA list of people who no longer control their own finances.

If the person is that much of a risk, after the family gets the SSA right to their finances, they can go to a judge, get them person mentally adjudicated as incompetent, and then their 2nd amendment rights can be restricted via due process.

even the ACLU didn't like this rule.
 
Keep whining losers. Barry's unlawful rule is gone...just like Hellary's inauguration fireworks.
 
Not if they really want one.
Fact: Firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2.5 million times (or 6,849 times each day) each year to prevent crime; 40 this includes rapes, aggravated assaults, and kidnapping. The number of innocent children protected by firearm owners far outweighs the number of children harmed.
Gary Kleck | Florida State College of Criminology & Criminal Justice
Fact: Over an eight year period, in states without “right to carry” laws, there were 15 school shootings; however, in states that allow citizens to carry guns, there was only one. 10


There were fewer accidents with guns by children when the mystery of them was removed, and safety and rules were taught.
Will laws keep guns from criminals?
Hope you are well.
More evidence the NRA is a terrorist organization, and the fools who posted #2 & #3 above who enable the NRA to put profit over the people.
statists look for any reason to take away ones liberties.

Should criminals have guns?
Should children have guns?

It will keep some guns from some criminals. No law is 100%.
 
Should liars and conspiracy theorists have the 1st amendment right, statists?
Wry Catcher Coyote

Huh?

Q. Should liars have first amendment rights
A. Yes, but calumny and criminal threats are punishable, they should not be restrained, only held to answer civilly or criminally after the fact

Q. Should conspiracy theorists have first amendment rights. Sure, under the same conditions as liars.

Q. statists
A. Too obscure to formulate a response.
 
Should liars and conspiracy theorists have the 1st amendment right, statists?
Wry Catcher Coyote

Yup.

But those attempting to instigate a riot should not.

There are laws in place for slander and libel as well.

Both of the above are legitimate restrictions.
 
Not if they really want one.
Fact: Firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2.5 million times (or 6,849 times each day) each year to prevent crime; 40 this includes rapes, aggravated assaults, and kidnapping. The number of innocent children protected by firearm owners far outweighs the number of children harmed.
Gary Kleck | Florida State College of Criminology & Criminal Justice
Fact: Over an eight year period, in states without “right to carry” laws, there were 15 school shootings; however, in states that allow citizens to carry guns, there was only one. 10


There were fewer accidents with guns by children when the mystery of them was removed, and safety and rules were taught.
Will laws keep guns from criminals?
Hope you are well.
More evidence the NRA is a terrorist organization, and the fools who posted #2 & #3 above who enable the NRA to put profit over the people.
statists look for any reason to take away ones liberties.

Should criminals have guns?
Should children have guns?

It will keep some guns from some criminals. No law is 100%.

One source? Estimated? a Retired Professor from a FL. St. U? Sorry, not convincing and Correlation does not prove Causation.
 

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