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Wealthy liberals are willing to raise their own tax ratesTypical nonsense of voluntary taxation. It does not work...never has
If you support war...why don't you volunteer
If you want schools ......pay for it yourself
Want a new highway.......pay more in taxes for it
Of course, at no point did I suggest a "voluntary tax system" for America. But when a liberals repulsive hypocrisy is on display for all to see, they immediately have to revert to a straw man.
Wealthy conservatives want to cut benefits to the poor
That is the difference
only when it profits them personally .Glad you asked....liberals today volunteer to support charities that help the poor, the handicapped, education, welfareOh I know. Back when liberals were liberals and believed in serving instead of taking - just like JFK. But this isn't 1967. What are liberals doing today RW?Liberals by the thousands signed up for JFKs Peace CorpsAnd yet none of you liberals answer that call to public service. Nearly none of you serve in the military. Absolutely none of you share your wealth (but demand that others do). None of you volunteer to help others. All you do is demand that your country do for you. The parasite class. JFK was appalled by the parasite class.
Of course liberals serve their country, always have. They also volunteer in their communities and contribute to charities
The spirit of JFK is alive and well in today's liberals
And conservatives do none of these things ?
Kennedy’s Inaugural also illustrates how liberals embrace and celebrate change, unlike most conservatives and libertarians who fear change.
America has always been about change, facing the challenges of the future, not looking back wishing to return to an idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with.
BullShit !KAZ SAID:
"Yes, liberals did create this country. Today we are called libertarians."
The stupidity of this is exceeded only by its ignorance.
Liberals today are the same liberals who founded this country: pragmatists who created a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, safeguarding the rights of all citizens from government excess, where the people are at liberty to express themselves in a free and democratic society absent unwarranted government interference.
Conservatism and libertarianism are the reactionary remnants of the fear, ignorance, and hate that the Founding Generation sought to remove themselves from – the baseless fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty the Old World subjected to oppression and disadvantage.
Today we see conservatives and libertarians hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, making efforts to disadvantage classes of citizens whom they fear and oppose, conservatives by force of law, libertarians by denying citizens their Constitutional protections – both equally wrong and in conflict with the principles which founded this Nation.
Care to make up anything more.
Classical liberals are thinkers and problem solvers who understand how society functions.
The far left is the product of the elitist class (and is often mistakenly called liberal.....Obama is not a liberal).
True conservatives are no more reactionary than liberals are the far left.
You are so full of crap your eyes must be dark brown.
Classical liberals are essentially todays libertarians. Liberal stems from the word liberate, in other words, freedom. Modern liberals like personal freedom, but not free markets. In that sense, their use of liberal is a misnomer.
Conservatives believe in free markets, but tend to oppose personal freedoms such as homosexuality and drug use.
hope that helps
"Record low". Complete and total lie as usual. For starters, we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Second, tax revenues in the government have been the highest in history over the Obama reign of terror. Over $4 trillion per year. $4 trillion. I could run the entire federal government off of $1 trillion and still have enough left over to significantly pay down the national debt. Those are the facts - and they are indisputable.Wait a second...I never said a "voluntary" tax system. I simply said under the current tax structure, why don't you boost your own tax rate up to 70%? The rest of America will still be paying the exact same taxes that we do now. But you liberals who are so supportive of 70% - 90% tax rates - why don't you start paying those taxes? Think about what that would do for the national debt.Typical nonsense of voluntary taxation. It does not work...never has
If you support war...why don't you volunteer
If you want schools ......pay for it yourself
Want a new highway.......pay more in taxes for it
Well?
I am talking about the tax structure of the entire nation. Your childish ...if you want higher taxes, pay them yourself does nothing for overall revenue
As a nation, our record low tax rates on the wealthy have left the nation in perpetual austerity
Highest corporate tax rates in the world......total bullshit
They pay around 13%
Less than I pay
" I don't know" that's the first and only intelligent thing you've said in this thread.I don't know of any conservative that opposes people's freedoms to engage in homosexuality. You're lying and you know it. What conservatives oppose is the sexual deviance that turns you on - like a cross-dressing pedophile being allowed into the girls bathroom to watch 8 year old girls change.BullShit !KAZ SAID:
"Yes, liberals did create this country. Today we are called libertarians."
The stupidity of this is exceeded only by its ignorance.
Liberals today are the same liberals who founded this country: pragmatists who created a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, safeguarding the rights of all citizens from government excess, where the people are at liberty to express themselves in a free and democratic society absent unwarranted government interference.
Conservatism and libertarianism are the reactionary remnants of the fear, ignorance, and hate that the Founding Generation sought to remove themselves from – the baseless fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty the Old World subjected to oppression and disadvantage.
Today we see conservatives and libertarians hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, making efforts to disadvantage classes of citizens whom they fear and oppose, conservatives by force of law, libertarians by denying citizens their Constitutional protections – both equally wrong and in conflict with the principles which founded this Nation.
Care to make up anything more.
Classical liberals are thinkers and problem solvers who understand how society functions.
The far left is the product of the elitist class (and is often mistakenly called liberal.....Obama is not a liberal).
True conservatives are no more reactionary than liberals are the far left.
You are so full of crap your eyes must be dark brown.
Classical liberals are essentially todays libertarians. Liberal stems from the word liberate, in other words, freedom. Modern liberals like personal freedom, but not free markets. In that sense, their use of liberal is a misnomer.
Conservatives believe in free markets, but tend to oppose personal freedoms such as homosexuality and drug use.
hope that helps
And I don't even play the "freedom" game from a bunch of people who work day and night to deny America their 1st Amendment rights, their 2nd Amendment rights, their 4th Amendment rights, and want to force everyone to accept sexual deviance. There is nobody who opposes freedom more than the left. If you truly embraced freedom, you would celebrate the freedom to be hateful, bigoted, racist, or homophobic. Because that is TRUE freedom. You hate freedom and everything about it. You want to force people to believe what you believe, think what you think, say what you say, and accept what you accept. The left is just a bunch of little Saddam Hussein's.
Kinda like conservatives who take other people property and keep it for themselves.there is no objective source claiming liberalism is evil
I would consider it evil to take people's property to give to others.
He does a fine job of avoiding the facts.Wealthy liberals are willing to raise their own tax rates
Wealthy conservatives want to cut benefits to the poor
Why is that a problem? All of you caring, bleeding-heart liberals will form foundations to make sure the poor have everything they need. So what are you crying about? We could (and should) completely cut all "benefits" (which are 100% unconstitutional) to the poor and they would all be taken care of by you selfless and altruistic liberals. So again I ask - what is the problem? And don't come back with some snarky nonsensical response. Articulate the problem. I don't see one because you liberals are there to save the day.
Mmmmm....rightwinger you are conspicuously quiet over there. Can we assume your silence means you acquiesce?
Guess I can assume the same about your complete lack of counter to my posts.
Fact. The rest is meaningless." I don't know" that's the first and only intelligent thing you've said in this thread.I don't know of any conservative that opposes people's freedoms to engage in homosexuality. You're lying and you know it. What conservatives oppose is the sexual deviance that turns you on - like a cross-dressing pedophile being allowed into the girls bathroom to watch 8 year old girls change.BullShit !KAZ SAID:
"Yes, liberals did create this country. Today we are called libertarians."
The stupidity of this is exceeded only by its ignorance.
Liberals today are the same liberals who founded this country: pragmatists who created a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, safeguarding the rights of all citizens from government excess, where the people are at liberty to express themselves in a free and democratic society absent unwarranted government interference.
Conservatism and libertarianism are the reactionary remnants of the fear, ignorance, and hate that the Founding Generation sought to remove themselves from – the baseless fear of change, diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty the Old World subjected to oppression and disadvantage.
Today we see conservatives and libertarians hostile to diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty, making efforts to disadvantage classes of citizens whom they fear and oppose, conservatives by force of law, libertarians by denying citizens their Constitutional protections – both equally wrong and in conflict with the principles which founded this Nation.
Care to make up anything more.
Classical liberals are thinkers and problem solvers who understand how society functions.
The far left is the product of the elitist class (and is often mistakenly called liberal.....Obama is not a liberal).
True conservatives are no more reactionary than liberals are the far left.
You are so full of crap your eyes must be dark brown.
Classical liberals are essentially todays libertarians. Liberal stems from the word liberate, in other words, freedom. Modern liberals like personal freedom, but not free markets. In that sense, their use of liberal is a misnomer.
Conservatives believe in free markets, but tend to oppose personal freedoms such as homosexuality and drug use.
hope that helps
And I don't even play the "freedom" game from a bunch of people who work day and night to deny America their 1st Amendment rights, their 2nd Amendment rights, their 4th Amendment rights, and want to force everyone to accept sexual deviance. There is nobody who opposes freedom more than the left. If you truly embraced freedom, you would celebrate the freedom to be hateful, bigoted, racist, or homophobic. Because that is TRUE freedom. You hate freedom and everything about it. You want to force people to believe what you believe, think what you think, say what you say, and accept what you accept. The left is just a bunch of little Saddam Hussein's.
Nice try.....ignore the rest.
Selective reason much ?
Liberalism and progressives are two different animals
Nothing to elaborate on.Kinda like conservatives who take other people property and keep it for themselves.
Please elaborate. If someone is stealing another's property, they should be charged with theft.
"Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politicians."
~~George S Patton
Gen USA
Patton was the lowest form of general..
Ex-borough Conservative Party chair busted on theft charges; lawyer blames landlord-tenant disputeNothing to elaborate on.Kinda like conservatives who take other people property and keep it for themselves.
Please elaborate. If someone is stealing another's property, they should be charged with theft.
You made the claim that conservatives are taking other people's property. Yet you provide no evidence of the theft you claim to be occuring.
Do Conservatives Really Give More to Charity Than Liberals? A Powerful Anecdote Fuels Debate.only when it profits them personally .Glad you asked....liberals today volunteer to support charities that help the poor, the handicapped, education, welfareOh I know. Back when liberals were liberals and believed in serving instead of taking - just like JFK. But this isn't 1967. What are liberals doing today RW?Liberals by the thousands signed up for JFKs Peace Corps
Of course liberals serve their country, always have. They also volunteer in their communities and contribute to charities
The spirit of JFK is alive and well in today's liberals
And conservatives do none of these things ?
You can prove this ?
Fantasize much?He does a fine job of avoiding the facts.Wealthy liberals are willing to raise their own tax rates
Wealthy conservatives want to cut benefits to the poor
Why is that a problem? All of you caring, bleeding-heart liberals will form foundations to make sure the poor have everything they need. So what are you crying about? We could (and should) completely cut all "benefits" (which are 100% unconstitutional) to the poor and they would all be taken care of by you selfless and altruistic liberals. So again I ask - what is the problem? And don't come back with some snarky nonsensical response. Articulate the problem. I don't see one because you liberals are there to save the day.
Mmmmm....rightwinger you are conspicuously quiet over there. Can we assume your silence means you acquiesce?
Guess I can assume the same about your complete lack of counter to my posts.
Wow...pot....meet kettle.
Your definitions are completely meaningless.I have long been acquainted with liberalism and use to find them kind of adorable in a naive, idealistic, immature, yapping lapdog kind of way, bitching about freedom, hating the U.S. Constitution, and insisting that whatever anyone else had they somehow deserved at least half of, if not more.
Well, now we have a blend of liberalism and communism that many people confuse with 'true' liberalism, but it is NOT liberalism. For instance, John F. Kennedy was adamant that lowering taxes was the only way to get a stagnant economy back on track. In addition, he famously stated in a speech "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". However, anybody today who express those John F. Kennedy liberal views is labeled by the left as "radical". Radical. It is "radical" in the minds of the modern day unhinged lefties to lower taxes or ask people to sacrifice for their country, rather than the country sacrificing everything for them. It is the putrid ideology from the mind of an evil avowed atheist escapee from the Soviet Union who had no use for love or charity or God. All modern day liberals want is rampant sexual deviance, the total destruction of a civilized society, and the permanent destruction of God. The deepest thought they are capable of producing is simpleton and irrational arguments for why they don't have to produce but have every right to be a parasite to society.
Modern day liberals have been completely exposed for the loveless and evil bitches that they are deep in their dark and disturbing souls. None of them will share what they have. None. Place a liberal on a polygraph and ask if they ever paid for the health insurance policy for an uninsured child and the answer will unequivocally be a resounding "no" each and every time. Likewise, ask them if they ever went without a meal to ensure that their fellow man had a hot meal, and once again the answer will unequivocally be a resounding "no" each and every time. Yet they will sit all day in a forum (such as USMB), refusing to work, refusing to hold a job and be a productive member of society, pretending to care sooo deeply about their fellow man. But as history has already proven and many have pointed out - the modern day liberal is quite generous with someone else's money. When it comes to their own, they won't share a damn thing.
Today's modern day liberal sells communism under the guise of liberalism - and it is not only rotting liberalism from the inside, like a cancer, but it's doing the same thing to America. $19 trillion in debt (on the verge of collapse). More people on food stamps than any time in U.S. history. Detroit - under total Democrat rule (both mayor and city council) for 60 years and now bankrupt. Just like the U.S.S.R. before, ignorant left-wing policy is collapsing the country, creating decay, dilapidation, poverty, and misery.
The take over of the Democrat Party movement by socialists/marxists/communists is a real disaster for the America as we enter a new age of technology in which jobs can easily and quickly be moved overseas because of ignorant liberal policies creating taxes and regulations too costly to keep the jobs here in America. Liberals pretend to care for other Americans, but at the end of the day, focus on brining everyone down into poverty because they are envious of anyone who has more than they do or does better than they do. It has never been about others for them - it has always been envy driving them to undermine and harm their fellow man.
America, if she is to survive, must find a way to shed itself of these useless evil parasites that are a pimple on America's ass or the America will die the well deserved death of wicked heresies ($19 trillion in debt and massive loss of freedoms because of communist liberalism has proven as much).
Ex-borough Conservative Party chair busted on theft charges; lawyer blames landlord-tenant disputeNothing to elaborate on.Kinda like conservatives who take other people property and keep it for themselves.
Please elaborate. If someone is stealing another's property, they should be charged with theft.
You made the claim that conservatives are taking other people's property. Yet you provide no evidence of the theft you claim to be occuring.
