How Evil is Libertarianism anyway?

[kaz]

If a person buys out a company that has the patent on a life saving drug then runs the price up by a factor of 50, is that wrong by Libertarian values? - Unrealistic scenario. The drug would have to be still under patent, and if the profit maximizing price was 50 times lower, they'd be losing more sales than making new profits

You should actually consume some news sometime, instead of just inside your bubble:


Martin Shkreli (/ˈskrɛli/;[3] born in 1983)[4] is an American entrepreneur and pharmaceutical executive. He is co-founder of the hedge fund MSMB Capital Management, co-founder and former chief executive officer (CEO) of thebiotechnology firm Retrophin, and founder and former CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals. In September 2015, Shkreli received widespread criticism when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drugDaraprim and raised its price by 5,556 percent (from US$13.5 to US$750 per tablet) leading him to be referred to by media as the "most hated man in America".[5]

My bubble is management, exactly what we're discussing. You should do some reading on pricing to maximize profits that you won't understand

So you're in Shkreli's corner?

I'm in the market of free enterprise and the right to property. You're in Stalin's corner

 

[P@triot]

That is always funny coming from the side of the aisle comprised of the parasite class. The side the pays little to no taxes (which is exactly why they demand so many taxes and so high - because they are the beneficiaries of those taxes).

Your Right-Wing brainwashing has taken hold. Isn't there a "Best of Rush" or "Best of Hannity" on right now that you should be lapping up?

Ah yes....when defeated with facts, the modern day liberal will always turn to snark. That is the defense mechanism of this endangered species...

You're the one regurgitating the most extreme wingnut rhetoric.

There is nothing "extreme" about reality (unless of course, you've become so radicalized by an ideology). You do realize that you are the political equivalence of ISIS, don't you? Anything that doesn't adhere to your very unhinged, brainwashed, and radicalized ideology is "extreme" and "unacceptable". According to ISIS, it's "extreme" to tolerate the Bible. According to you, it's "extreme" to tolerate the U.S. Constitution. Wow

Red states are the welfare states, supported by taxes from the Blue states.

This is undeniable (although you'll deny it due to the Right-Wing brainwashing). Yet you claim Liberals pay "little to no taxes".

Like I said: extreme wingnut rhetoric, learned from your Radio Gods, not based in fact. See my sigline.

It's not true at all. Red states have driven out business and tax dollars (California and New York hold the record for driving out tax dollars). And nobody has created more jobs or tax revenue stream over the past 5 years or so than Texas and North Dakota. Two exceptionally conservative states.

Here you go chief - IRS tax dollars data tracked and reported by US News & World Report. This is what idiot liberal policy does. Drives out talent, wealth, jobs, and tax revenue streams and replaces it with unemployment, poverty, and misery:

In the United States, no- and low-income tax states are experiencing booms, while high-income tax states are threatened with busts. This is no mere hypothesis. Fifteen years' worth of data from the Internal Revenue Service shows that net adjusted gross incomes (net AGI) move from states that levy high income taxes to those with low or no income tax. Our analysis of more than 134 million individual taxpayer records revealed that, between 1995 and 2010, more than $2 trillion dollars moved between the states. Using this unimpeachable data, we can see – down to the county level – which areas are gaining wealth and residents, and which are losing them

This is why a state like California, with its top income tax rate of 13.3%, saw a loss of more than $31.7 billion over 15 years. Texas, which taxes its residents at the very agreeable rate of zero, gained more than $22 billion over that same time period.

All across the nation, leaders are taking notice of tax migration. No one wants to be the next California ($22 billion lost), New York ($58.6 billion lost) or Illinois ($26.1 billion lost), with wealth and talent streaming out of the state.

Every Day Is Tax Day

 

[P@triot]

The Air Force and a standing Army are also not listed in the Constitution.

Bwahahaha! How long did it take you to look up that liberal lie which the left has been trying to push for the last decade or so? Do you have any idea how many times I've seen this ignorant and immature lie posted?

The Constitution clearly states that the federal government is responsible for defense. Not only that, but how about this little gem chief from Article 1, Section 8:

To raise and support Armies

Now, if you really want to play liberal games and again try to redefine the English language out of desperation, then we'll just make the Air Force part of the Navy (after all, they do fly a large number of their ships off of naval carriers). Boom. Problem solved. Constitution is still intact and you're still standing empty handed scratching your head trying to figure out what you can do now to gain the power and control over others that you so desperately want (especially since you're not wiling to work for it).

 

[P@triot]

If one business discriminates, it opens up the opportunity for another business so swoop in and snatch up those who have been discriminated against.

In theory, yes. Go to a small Alabama town and search for the people in a position financially to open a competing business.

Good luck!

What particular business are you talking about?

Any mom and pop business. I'm not talking about corporations. They generally don't set up shop in one-traffic light towns, other than fast food or perhaps a convenience store.

So mom & pop wouldn't be able to start a business to compete with a business that discriminates?

You're as thick as a brick. I already posted:

In theory, yes. Go to a small Alabama town and search for the people in a position financially to open a competing business.

Good luck!

Hey genius...there is more money floating around Tuscaloosa than every liberal you've ever known combined has ever accumulated in their family history. Hell, Nick Saban alone is making $8 million per year.

I do believe you've set a record today for consecutive posts without a single item correct...

 

[P@triot]

Red states are the welfare states, supported by taxes from the Blue states. This is undeniable...

Boom! Damn that has to sting Syn. A second article stuffed with facts about the failure of liberal policy driving out businesses, people, and tax revenue.

Exodus: California Tax Revenue Plunges by 22% - Breitbart

 

[bripat9643]

Red states are the welfare states, supported by taxes from the Blue states. This is undeniable...

Boom! Damn that has to sting Syn. A second article stuffed with facts about the failure of liberal policy driving out businesses, people, and tax revenue.

Exodus: California Tax Revenue Plunges by 22% - Breitbart

Just wait until the energy prices spike up to 4-5 times the rate they are now because of all their clean energy bullshit regulations. Corporations will be evacuating CA by the thousands.

 

[Synthaholic]

You're close to losing next year's NBA All-Star game.

Since you profess people doing what they want, I'm sure you have no objections to all the corporate and individual boycotts of your state, right?

OMG, not the all-star game!

Let's see, do I want:

Option A) Businesses to decide the rules for the use of their own restrooms

Option B) The "all star game"

Yes, you do live in an Entertainment Tonight world. I'll take Option A, please. But I don't crave slavery like you do

It's not only the NBA.

Here's the list of all the people and companies boycotting the state so far:

Ringo Starr

Bryan Adams

Deutsche Bank

PayPal

Bruce Springsteen

Michael Moore

xHamster

Joel McHale

General Electric

the Dow Chemical Company

Pepsi

Hyatt

Hewlett Packard

Choice Hotels International

Whole Foods

Levis Strauss & Co.

Lionsgate

Now, a lot of them won't make an economic difference by themselves but they have influence.

North Carolina has their huge "Research Triangle". I heard an interview yesterday on NPR with an executive of Monsanto, which is fighting this law in Missouri, not because they're a Liberal corporation but because they already have stiff competition recruiting top chemists, etc. to move to Missouri and this law is going to further hurt their efforts.

North Carolina doesn't have a lot going for it other than it's universities unless you live on the coast. Businesses aren't clamoring to relocate there. This is going to hurt that further, and without those business taxes who do you think will have to make up the difference? You.

Far more publicity than substance. But no threats justify the tyranny of government dictating to businesses who can use their restrooms. For me, that is the issue. If NC required businesses to not allow "transgenders" to use the other restroom I'd be just as opposed. It's none of your business, just like it's none of the business of anyone in your list

So you're willing to pay more in taxes to protect the "right" of Billy Bob's Ribs to discriminate?

Quite the dilemma for a libby, eh? We know you all hate contributing taxes, and paying your share to live in a free society.

If I think businesses should set their own rules for the use of their bathrooms rather than government forcing it on them, I want to "pay more in taxes."

Damn, posting drunk again?

No, you're posting stupid again.

If these bigoted laws result in corporations boycotting NC, who is going to make up those business and property taxes? You.

Now post again like you don't understand what I mean. I dare you, retard.

 

[Synthaholic]

The Air Force and a standing Army are also not listed in the Constitution.

Bwahahaha! How long did it take you to look up that liberal lie which the left has been trying to push for the last decade or so? Do you have any idea how many times I've seen this ignorant and immature lie posted?

The Constitution clearly states that the federal government is responsible for defense. Not only that, but how about this little gem chief from Article 1, Section 8:

To raise and support Armies

Now, if you really want to play liberal games and again try to redefine the English language out of desperation, then we'll just make the Air Force part of the Navy (after all, they do fly a large number of their ships off of naval carriers). Boom. Problem solved. Constitution is still intact and you're still standing empty handed scratching your head trying to figure out what you can do now to gain the power and control over others that you so desperately want (especially since you're not wiling to work for it).

I guess you missed the word 'standing'.

You can only win by changing what I say.

 

[Synthaholic]

Red states are the welfare states, supported by taxes from the Blue states. This is undeniable...

Boom! Damn that has to sting Syn. A second article stuffed with facts about the failure of liberal policy driving out businesses, people, and tax revenue.

Exodus: California Tax Revenue Plunges by 22% - Breitbart

 

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[dblack]

Hey Synthaholic - what does the blue state/red state stuff have to do with Libertarians?

 

[bripat9643]

Hey Synthaholic - what does the blue state/red state stuff have to do with Libertarians?

The people who are always complaining about red states are he biggest supporters of welfare. If they don't like the way the money is spent, they can easily solve the problem by ending these programs.

 

[kaz]

OMG, not the all-star game!

Let's see, do I want:

Option A) Businesses to decide the rules for the use of their own restrooms

Option B) The "all star game"

Yes, you do live in an Entertainment Tonight world. I'll take Option A, please. But I don't crave slavery like you do

It's not only the NBA.

Here's the list of all the people and companies boycotting the state so far:

Ringo Starr

Bryan Adams

Deutsche Bank

PayPal

Bruce Springsteen

Michael Moore

xHamster

Joel McHale

General Electric

the Dow Chemical Company

Pepsi

Hyatt

Hewlett Packard

Choice Hotels International

Whole Foods

Levis Strauss & Co.

Lionsgate

Now, a lot of them won't make an economic difference by themselves but they have influence.

North Carolina has their huge "Research Triangle". I heard an interview yesterday on NPR with an executive of Monsanto, which is fighting this law in Missouri, not because they're a Liberal corporation but because they already have stiff competition recruiting top chemists, etc. to move to Missouri and this law is going to further hurt their efforts.

North Carolina doesn't have a lot going for it other than it's universities unless you live on the coast. Businesses aren't clamoring to relocate there. This is going to hurt that further, and without those business taxes who do you think will have to make up the difference? You.

Far more publicity than substance. But no threats justify the tyranny of government dictating to businesses who can use their restrooms. For me, that is the issue. If NC required businesses to not allow "transgenders" to use the other restroom I'd be just as opposed. It's none of your business, just like it's none of the business of anyone in your list

So you're willing to pay more in taxes to protect the "right" of Billy Bob's Ribs to discriminate?

Quite the dilemma for a libby, eh? We know you all hate contributing taxes, and paying your share to live in a free society.

If I think businesses should set their own rules for the use of their bathrooms rather than government forcing it on them, I want to "pay more in taxes."

Damn, posting drunk again?

No, you're posting stupid again.

If these bigoted laws result in corporations boycotting NC, who is going to make up those business and property taxes? You.

Now post again like you don't understand what I mean. I dare you, retard.

That businesses should manage their own bathrooms is "posting stupid." You're posting socialist.

And NC is a big growth State economically and in jobs. I live in one of the two hearts of that, the Triangle. The other is Charlotte. Sure, Buckwheat, I want to give up my liberty because a few whacked out leftists want to deal with Iran and give access to girls bathrooms to child predators because ... because ... because why again?

 

[Synthaholic]

Hey Synthaholic - what does the blue state/red state stuff have to do with Libertarians?

It has to do with correcting the retard who said this:

That is always funny coming from the side of the aisle comprised of the parasite class. The side the pays little to no taxes (which is exactly why they demand so many taxes and so high - because they are the beneficiaries of those taxes).

Try to keep up.

 

[Synthaholic]

It's not only the NBA.

Here's the list of all the people and companies boycotting the state so far:

Ringo Starr

Bryan Adams

Deutsche Bank

PayPal

Bruce Springsteen

Michael Moore

xHamster

Joel McHale

General Electric

the Dow Chemical Company

Pepsi

Hyatt

Hewlett Packard

Choice Hotels International

Whole Foods

Levis Strauss & Co.

Lionsgate

Now, a lot of them won't make an economic difference by themselves but they have influence.

North Carolina has their huge "Research Triangle". I heard an interview yesterday on NPR with an executive of Monsanto, which is fighting this law in Missouri, not because they're a Liberal corporation but because they already have stiff competition recruiting top chemists, etc. to move to Missouri and this law is going to further hurt their efforts.

North Carolina doesn't have a lot going for it other than it's universities unless you live on the coast. Businesses aren't clamoring to relocate there. This is going to hurt that further, and without those business taxes who do you think will have to make up the difference? You.

Far more publicity than substance. But no threats justify the tyranny of government dictating to businesses who can use their restrooms. For me, that is the issue. If NC required businesses to not allow "transgenders" to use the other restroom I'd be just as opposed. It's none of your business, just like it's none of the business of anyone in your list

So you're willing to pay more in taxes to protect the "right" of Billy Bob's Ribs to discriminate?

Quite the dilemma for a libby, eh? We know you all hate contributing taxes, and paying your share to live in a free society.

If I think businesses should set their own rules for the use of their bathrooms rather than government forcing it on them, I want to "pay more in taxes."

Damn, posting drunk again?

No, you're posting stupid again.

If these bigoted laws result in corporations boycotting NC, who is going to make up those business and property taxes? You.

Now post again like you don't understand what I mean. I dare you, retard.

That businesses should manage their own bathrooms is "posting stupid." You're posting socialist.

And NC is a big growth State economically and in jobs. I live in one of the two hearts of that, the Triangle. The other is Charlotte. Sure, Buckwheat, I want to give up my liberty because a few whacked out leftists want to deal with Iran and give access to girls bathrooms to child predators because ... because ... because why again?

That's at least twice that you have deflected from my point.

That means you concede my point.

 

[kaz]

Far more publicity than substance. But no threats justify the tyranny of government dictating to businesses who can use their restrooms. For me, that is the issue. If NC required businesses to not allow "transgenders" to use the other restroom I'd be just as opposed. It's none of your business, just like it's none of the business of anyone in your list

So you're willing to pay more in taxes to protect the "right" of Billy Bob's Ribs to discriminate?

Quite the dilemma for a libby, eh? We know you all hate contributing taxes, and paying your share to live in a free society.

If I think businesses should set their own rules for the use of their bathrooms rather than government forcing it on them, I want to "pay more in taxes."

Damn, posting drunk again?

No, you're posting stupid again.

If these bigoted laws result in corporations boycotting NC, who is going to make up those business and property taxes? You.

Now post again like you don't understand what I mean. I dare you, retard.

That businesses should manage their own bathrooms is "posting stupid." You're posting socialist.

And NC is a big growth State economically and in jobs. I live in one of the two hearts of that, the Triangle. The other is Charlotte. Sure, Buckwheat, I want to give up my liberty because a few whacked out leftists want to deal with Iran and give access to girls bathrooms to child predators because ... because ... because why again?

That's at least twice that you have deflected from my point.

That means you concede my point.

I keep addressing your point, you're just an idiot.

First of all you are wrong about the costs, but even if you were right, I'm not willing to trade liberty for money. What about that is unclear to you? It's just unclear to you how it's not socialist? Actually, it's not socialist. That's where I lost you