How Liberals Use Science

And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.

You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.



Let's try it this way:

The Founders, classical liberals, what we call conservatives today, had a political philosophy based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Where do you stand on those values?
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.

You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.

Apparently you are a liberal if you make things up out of sail cloth.

Actually if you do as Hitler did, you are a liberal.
And you are the Pope if you don't?
 
Who are the liberals supporting mandatory sterilization today?

We can thank God Almighty that the Conservatives were able to stop the eugenics of the Liberals as much as they could.

We can thank The Republican party for stopping the racism of the Democrat party.
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.

You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.



Let's try it this way:

The Founders, classical liberals, what we call conservatives today, had a political philosophy based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Where do you stand on those values?
I like the FF's so much I have long hair like they did...
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.

You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.

Apparently you are a liberal if you make things up out of sail cloth.

Actually if you do as Hitler did, you are a liberal.
And you are the Pope if you don't?

What the hell do you bring in religion? I didn't even go into the Nazi love affair with the occult, another liberal trait.
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.
Hitler used barter as a means of economic success...is that liberal? Socialist or conservative?


Did you mention Hitler's economic policies?



  1. The National Socialists hailed Franklin Roosevelt's ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
    1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
    2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
    3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
    4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
  2. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.
 
One can easily say that FDR's Eugenic Tuskegee Experiments and Planned Parenthood were huge influences on Mengele and the Nazis.

I wonder if Mengele ever corresponded directly with Margaret Sanger Singer and FDR?
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.

You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.

Apparently you are a liberal if you make things up out of sail cloth.

Actually if you do as Hitler did, you are a liberal.
And you are the Pope if you don't?

What the hell do you bring in religion? I didn't even go into the Nazi love affair with the occult, another liberal trait.



They even have a 'holiday' for same....Earth Day where they worship Gaia, Mother Earth.
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.
Hitler used barter as a means of economic success...is that liberal? Socialist or conservative?


Did you mention Hitler's economic policies?



  1. The National Socialists hailed Franklin Roosevelt's ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
    1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
    2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
    3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
    4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
  2. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.

When do you think the left will accuse FDR of being one of those who were actually conservatives back then?
 
Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.

You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.

Apparently you are a liberal if you make things up out of sail cloth.

Actually if you do as Hitler did, you are a liberal.
And you are the Pope if you don't?

What the hell do you bring in religion? I didn't even go into the Nazi love affair with the occult, another liberal trait.



They even have a 'holiday' for same....Earth Day where they worship Gaia, Mother Earth.
For the Pagans....Christians are suppose to be good stewards of Gods' Earth...
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.
Hitler used barter as a means of economic success...is that liberal? Socialist or conservative?


Did you mention Hitler's economic policies?



  1. The National Socialists hailed Franklin Roosevelt's ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
    1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
    2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
    3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
    4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
  2. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.

When do you think the left will accuse FDR of being one of those who were actually conservatives back then?
He was socially conservative but liberal in politics...
 
One can easily say that FDR's Eugenic Tuskegee Experiments and Planned Parenthood were huge influences on Mengele and the Nazis.

I wonder if Mengele ever corresponded directly with Margaret Sanger Singer and FDR?
It was nothing like giving Indians small pocks infested blankets...
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.
Hitler used barter as a means of economic success...is that liberal? Socialist or conservative?


Did you mention Hitler's economic policies?



  1. The National Socialists hailed Franklin Roosevelt's ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
    1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
    2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
    3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
    4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
  2. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.

When do you think the left will accuse FDR of being one of those who were actually conservatives back then?



What a great Limbaughesque point.

They try to claim the southern racists were conservative when the most popular Democrat today, Clinton, was and is racist....
 
You are not a liberal if you oppose liberalism. Goddam you people say the darnedest things.

Apparently you are a liberal if you make things up out of sail cloth.

Actually if you do as Hitler did, you are a liberal.
And you are the Pope if you don't?

What the hell do you bring in religion? I didn't even go into the Nazi love affair with the occult, another liberal trait.



They even have a 'holiday' for same....Earth Day where they worship Gaia, Mother Earth.
For the Pagans....Christians are suppose to be good stewards of Gods' Earth...

And to do that they have to worship an imaginary Mother Earth? Really? That is your argument?
 
1. It's been noted before that all one need do to herd Liberals in any direction is the phrase "studies show...."
Seems that this is the overcompensation by the less intelligent, yearning to be able to claim that science backs up their beliefs.

Let's take the Progressive/socialist love for eugenics.



2. In the novel "Ceremony of Innocence," BBC far east expert Humphrey Hawksley provides a reminder of the Progressive/socialist policies that led to the atrocities of the Holocaust.

Hawksley give a sense of the motives, and the aims, of the eugenics movement. Here, a few passages from the book:

"...Harry H. Laughlin, superintendent of the Eugenics Records Office, USA.

'He was the right-hand man for Albert Johnson, head of the House Committee on Immigration and Naturalization,...who created a politically acceptable environment to stop defective immigrants coming into your country, mainly from Eastern and Southern Europe, the Balkans and Russia...

The bill was passed after Laughlin cited IQ and prison statistics....these immigrants were the dregs of humanity, mentally deficient and unable to assimilate....It was a perfect combination of science and politics.


...defining what a human being is....that a human being can be genetically altered animal which possesses the ability to reason, argue facts, arrive at a conclusion and so on."

The character speaking goes on to place the blame for eugenics just where it belongs:

"....the ideas all came from [America]. You were the pioneers in this science until Germany damaged it irrevocably with the Holocaust....We've devised a universal IQ test which we use on children of all races....so if we use [the ability to reason, argue facts, arrive at a conclusion and so on] we are blurring the line between human and animal life.

I know, I know. We are in a battle between religion and science."
p. 232-234.


Everything Hawksley has his character say is true.




3. And Hawkley spoke the truth when he had the character say " We are in a battle between religion and science."
Here, Oliver Wendell Holmes for Progressive science, and Pierce Butler for religion:

a. The most revered of liberal icons, Oliver Wendell Holmes, concurred with eugenics, to the extent that he attempted to write it into the Constitution. In 1927, a young unwed mother named Carrie Buck was sterilized against her will by order of the Supreme Court, decision (Buck v. Bell) written by Oliver Wendell Holmes, who said : ”The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.” It turned out that she was not retarded, as the state had contended. Based on the Buck Decision, more than 60 thousand were operated on across the U.S. as late as the 1970’s. And the opinion was adopted in Germany, where, within a year, some 56 thousand German ‘patients’ had been sterilized.

b. Everyone is aware of the Liberal/Progressive distain for religion. The only vote against the state, in an 8-1 decision was the archconservative and only Catholic on the court, Pierce Butler. “Butler was a Roman Catholic and a Democrat, but was also, most importantly, a political conservative.” Pierce Butler

I call the Liberal use of science... "SCIENCE!". Which is profoundly distinct from actual science. It's the appeal to the authority of science; which rests entirely upon the objectivity intrinsic to such, but which is used subjectively... deceitfully and fraudulently.
 
And Hitler was damn sure no liberal...

Depends on your defintion and perhaps the country.

In a very broad definition and sense, Conservative means preserving the current state of the country and Liberalism is moving away?

Now if that is anywhere close to the definition, did or did not Hitler support the ruling parties? Parties that were mostly Socialists, Christian Socialists? No, Hitler did not he he opposed the ruling parties thus he was a Liberal.

Since Hitler's view was for strict government regulation over business, nationalization of the banks, gun control and health care, thus Hitler was a liberal.

What you might consider conservative is Hitler's use of Patriotism and pride of the Aryan nation. But if you do then you have to explain liberals telling us that they are just as patriotic and proud, except Michelle of course.
Hitler used barter as a means of economic success...is that liberal? Socialist or conservative?


Did you mention Hitler's economic policies?



  1. The National Socialists hailed Franklin Roosevelt's ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
    1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
    2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
    3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
    4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
  2. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.

When do you think the left will accuse FDR of being one of those who were actually conservatives back then?



What a great Limbaughesque point.

They try to claim the southern racists were conservative when the most popular Democrat today, Clinton, was and is racist....
I haven't met anyone that ain't racists or dislikes something about other cultures and races....
 

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