How Much is to much

[Len]

With everything either being in short supply or prices going up and up. Energy products in short supply. regulations on everything and now more on the trucking industry.No jobs, etc. Where is this country headed?

 

[ScienceRocks]

With everything either being in short supply or prices going up and up. Energy products in short supply. regulations on everything and now more on the trucking industry.No jobs, etc. Where is this country headed?

Regulations on the trucking industry will force us to increase the amount of miles/gallon for trucks. So at the end of the day the same benefits of the increase in car mileage will be seen with trucks.

Short supply? We have tons of supplies and space even more. Tell me what is in short supply?

 

[g5000]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

 

[Jarhead]

too....

Just sayin'

 

[Jarhead]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

the price of eggs has more than doubled in the past 5 years?

 

[g5000]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

the price of eggs has more than doubled in the past 5 years?

The price of electricity has not doubled in the past 5 years. It actually has not even outpaced inflation.

 

[g5000]

See for yourselves: Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[g5000]

Here's the graph for electricity:

Here is an inflation calculator: CPI Inflation Calculator

$1.26 in 2009 is now $1.37.

 

[Jarhead]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:


AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

the price of eggs has more than doubled in the past 5 years?

The price of electricity has not doubled in the past 5 years. It actually has not even outpaced inflation.

I was referring to energy costs as it pertains to automotive needs.

My mistake.

My electric bill has barely moved in the past 10 years.

 

[g5000]

Here is the chart for unleaded gasoline:

$1.79 in 2009 is $1.94 now. So unleaded gas has outpaced inflation considerably.

There have been several topics in the past few weeks claiming electricity prices have "soared" and "skyrocketed" due to federal regulations. This is a bogus meme, as I have just shown.

Since regulations have not resulted in higher electricity prices, and that industry has seen more regulatory changes than the oil industry, then there is obviously some other mechanism behind the rise in unleaded gas prices. And we are still a long way from the $4.09 gas price seen in the last days of the previous Administration.

 

[g5000]

What sucks is that inflation is probably outpacing the rate of rise in wages of the common man these days. So there is the problem. Wages are not keeping up.

 

[healthmyths]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

Not for me! In 21 months my utility bill has increased by 40%!!!
I moved into my current residence and after one full month my bill was $45.16 in 2012
For the same month but one year later 2013 the bill was $78.41 an increase of 42%
This month my bill ins $231.55!
Average for first 12 months per month:$88.80
Average for then next 8 months per month $142.32
An increase of nearly 40%
AGAIN remind you what OBAMA said RATHER then work towards LoWERING COSTS he promised the opposite
and you idiots that voted for him here is the result! "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"

 

[HenryBHough]

It'll begin to bite when independent truckers hang up the keys.

The ever-creeping federal mandates on mileage and emissions are causing independents to park their rigs. But they're not buying new ones because the costs (so much driven by all the federally mandated "improvements) are so great that there's no way to make a living.

Once the independents are gone you'll see either food and other commodity shortages or a few big firms dominating the trucking business and pegging their prices where they damn well please.

Either way and no matter what the regime calls it, it'll be inflation.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

but but but someone told him that Obama wanted to take your plugs out your wall or "change america" or something something socialist.

 

[Jarhead]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

Not for me! In 21 months my utility bill has increased by 40%!!!
I moved into my current residence and after one full month my bill was $45.16 in 2012
For the same month but one year later 2013 the bill was $78.41 an increase of 42%
This month my bill ins $231.55!
Average for first 12 months per month:$88.80
Average for then next 8 months per month $142.32
An increase of nearly 40%
AGAIN remind you what OBAMA said RATHER then work towards LoWERING COSTS he promised the opposite
and you idiots that voted for him here is the result! "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"

Jeez...where do you live with those rates?

My electric bill is 385 a month.

My oil bill for heat has a annual average of about 400 a month.....with it being as much as 1000 a month in the winter...and pretty much zero for the summer.

 

[Jarhead]

Contrary to what partisan hacks have been telling you, energy prices have not been going up any faster than other prices.

The price of eggs has risen faster than the price of electricity.

The electricity industry itself says the same thing:

As with virtually all other goods, the price of electricity has risen over the years. Underlying factors affecting this upward trend include higher prices for generating fuel (e.g. coal), the need for new infrastructure, and environmental concerns. Compared to other goods, the increase in electricity prices has been relatively low.

AEP.com - Rising Cost Of Electricity

but but but someone told him that Obama wanted to take your plugs out your wall or "change america" or something something socialist.

no....Obama wanted to get hair plugs.

You must have misunderstood.

 

[LoneLaugher]

With everything either being in short supply or prices going up and up. Energy products in short supply. regulations on everything and now more on the trucking industry.No jobs, etc. Where is this country headed?

Does EVERY nutter have a problem with to, too and two?

Oar...argh yoo sumwon wii no allreddie?

 

[healthmyths]

Here is the chart for unleaded gasoline:

$1.79 in 2009 is $1.94 now. So unleaded gas has outpaced inflation considerably.

There have been several topics in the past few weeks claiming electricity prices have "soared" and "skyrocketed" due to federal regulations. This is a bogus meme, as I have just shown.

Since regulations have not resulted in higher electricity prices, and that industry has seen more regulatory changes than the oil industry, then there is obviously some other mechanism behind the rise in unleaded gas prices. And we are still a long way from the $4.09 gas price seen in the last days of the previous Administration.

Electricity Price Index Soars to New Record at Start of 2014; U.S. Electricity Production Declining -
The combined 439,391 million KWH increase in electricity generation from natural gas, wind and solar did not cover the 502,413 million KWH decline in the electricity generated by coal.

Coal was not the only source that produced less electricity in 2012 than in 2007, according to the EIA data.

Electricity from nuclear power plants dropped from 806,425 million KWH in 2007 to 769,331 in 2012—a decline of 37,094 million KWH or 4.6 percent.

Electricity Price Index Soars to New Record at Start of 2014; U.S. Electricity Production Declining | CNS News

May I remind you what Obama promised:
"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"
" Obama: I?ll make energy prices ?skyrocket? « Hot Air

 

[healthmyths]

Not for me! In 21 months my utility bill has increased by 40%!!!
I moved into my current residence and after one full month my bill was $45.16 in 2012
For the same month but one year later 2013 the bill was $78.41 an increase of 42%
This month my bill ins $231.55!
Average for first 12 months per month:$88.80
Average for then next 8 months per month $142.32
An increase of nearly 40%

 

[HenryBHough]

Energy costs vary hugely by location but also hugely by home size and construction.

I live in a moderate size 2-BR/2-BA house in a relatively cold area. When I built the place I ran up the cost by about $4,000 to get the insulation right. That is, not overdone; just slightly beyond nominal.

Now I pay the electric utility $1,000 per year and have change back each September. That includes an electric washer, dryer, refrigerator, stove and oven plus several computers and the normal appliances/TV.

I pay the gas utility $1,300 per year but, for advance payment, they credit an extra $25. Again I have change back each September. That includes heat and hot water.

No AC - but here not needed. Compared to same-size "contractor grade" houses in the same area my costs are about 30% lower. The extra 4 grand came back real quick. Much more additional would not have.

Oh, and I absolutely refuse to use any Obamabulbs. But if I chose to I might save another $10-$12 a year.